Post Match Raiders v Warriors - [Round 1, 2025]

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Not saying he is a star but I actually think Chanel was one of our best in that game on my rematch today.
I get what you're all saying. 1) all fingerers are pointing to AW for recruitment, game plan and bench selection and use 2) giving us all hope in 2023 that he was our saviour, that all we needed was the right coach - his secret sauce, the secret ingredient, that was all we needed since 1995 was Andrew Webster (his man management and his rugby league IQ and we would start winning!!! i BELIEVED!!!! ok lets be reasonable and put on our man brains on, now, think logically, what is the missing ingredient, we just don't have the cattle to do the job, as everyone so rightly points out developing players from lower grades is a must and recruiting the right players to our club 3) of course AW is going to shape his team to reflect his time at Penrith, Ivan had a hard time trying to get the team he wanted and it took years before he got the winning formulae. so...I think Webby needs time in the saddle first to recruit who he really wants in his squad, time for to develop players from lower grade etc we have to think long term here, no matter who coaches the warriors (bellyache, clint eastwood etc) they wont get wins right off the bat, 223 was an anomaly, this is reality, Webby needs time, don't forget, think with your man-brain, not joking, did I really think in 1995 the warriors would actually win enough games (in the toughest competition in the whole world) and make the top 8 or 4??? yes I did (dumbass). Andrew Webster is a baby as a coach in the nrl compared to all the other coaches. I am no longer immature (debatable) , of course he will make mistakes and we'll lose some games, got to ask yourself is this due to the coach or the players. apologies for the long rant, can't wait for round2 as the saying goes up the wahs!
 
I get what you're all saying. 1) all fingerers are pointing to AW for recruitment, game plan and bench selection and use 2) giving us all hope in 2023 that he was our saviour, that all we needed was the right coach - his secret sauce, the secret ingredient, that was all we needed since 1995 was Andrew Webster (his man management and his rugby league IQ and we would start winning!!! i BELIEVED!!!! ok lets be reasonable and put on our man brains on, now, think logically, what is the missing ingredient, we just don't have the cattle to do the job, as everyone so rightly points out developing players from lower grades is a must and recruiting the right players to our club 3) of course AW is going to shape his team to reflect his time at Penrith, Ivan had a hard time trying to get the team he wanted and it took years before he got the winning formulae. so...I think Webby needs time in the saddle first to recruit who he really wants in his squad, time for to develop players from lower grade etc we have to think long term here, no matter who coaches the warriors (bellyache, clint eastwood etc) they wont get wins right off the bat, 223 was an anomaly, this is reality, Webby needs time, don't forget, think with your man-brain, not joking, did I really think in 1995 the warriors would actually win enough games (in the toughest competition in the whole world) and make the top 8 or 4??? yes I did (dumbass). Andrew Webster is a baby as a coach in the nrl compared to all the other coaches. I am no longer immature (debatable) , of course he will make mistakes and we'll lose some games, got to ask yourself is this due to the coach or the players. apologies for the long rant, can't wait for round2 as the saying goes up the wahs!
Watch those fingerer pointers. They’ve often got stink fingers
 
Also can people turn down the social media bullshit?

Nothing worse than all the connected and together bullshit and then go get your arsed licked!

Who in-between now and the next game, wants to see CNK pumping up and saying let's go!

Mate have a look at yourself in the mirror!
He's playing in the wrong position as was obvious last year - right centre would suit him better
 
No we just need
The forgotten man
For 30 minutes
Bunty

Seriously just another wtf selection policy from the coaches.

Played 21 out of 27 round robin games in 2023. Averaged 30mins and 0.5 missed tackles per game and 0.1 errors.

He did not feature in the finals and played only 9 times last year (I do recall an injury layoff).

He's being kept out by Ford who averages 2.6 missed tackles per game.
 
Seriously just another wtf selection policy from the coaches.

Played 21 out of 27 round robin games in 2023. Averaged 30mins and 0.5 missed tackles per game and 0.1 errors.

He did not feature in the finals and played only 9 times last year (I do recall an injury layoff).

He's being kept out by Ford who averages 2.6 missed tackles per game.
I ve said before AW favours his Aussie boys
People were talking bout them chasing Hazelton
Bunty not able to do the job?
Aw?
Sure he can on my book
 
Not saying he is a star but I actually think Chanel was one of our best in that game on my rewatch today.
Competed, should have had another try assist, appeared to take a bigger role with LM completely missing for a lot of the game.

Certainly wasn't perfect with some defensive misses and not engaging the line at times before passing but was a long way from our worst performers.
 
Competed, should have had another try assist, appeared to take a bigger role with LM completely missing for a lot of the game.

Certainly wasn't perfect with some defensive misses and not engaging the line at times before passing but was a long way from our worst performers.
Hard to think of many recent players who could have broken the game apart for us. Young SJ (Johnson). Hurrell. McKinnon maybe
 
This is going to be an adventurous post based on an adventurous theory. Please skip this post if you like reading about facts and proven theories. This is a bit of conjecture. No Flames please as I don't even know if I can write this up well as it is a half thought only.

Whenever when following the black caps the selectors picked a team the fans would pick we lost badly. Whenever the selections were boring and stodgy leading to pages of complaints before the match the team did very well and exceeded all expectations.

This team for the Round one was more like a fan picked exciting team than a stodgy boring one an experienced coach would pick

1) Metcalf at 7 was adventurous and was either going to pay off in spades or be a clusterfuck and it proved to be the latter at least in this first game.
2) Egan playing the whole 80 and four forwards on the bench, Was a gamble on Egan's endurance. Did it work? I guess so. Nonetheless it was a risk.
3) Barnett to lock at the last minute to counter them putting their big guy at lock. Was an extravagant risk like a fan would come up with and not a long serving NRL coach.
4) Capewell swapped Edges to the 11 jersey - I understand he played much of last year at 12. That was a gamble probably to bring out the best of him and Niukore. Did it work. It didn't seem to. Unless they swapped on game day and didn't pay on the side their number indicated.
5) Metcalf was given the kicking duties when Pompey is more experienced. Another gamble when a stodgy decision would have been to stick with "the devil we know" ie Pompey.
6) In a move fans would make Leka and Vaimauga were selected on the bench, I don't know what to say about this as then they weren't actually used when the game was alive and in the balance.
7) CHt to 6 was a gamble ahead of the more proven TMM. This one seemed to pay off.
8) Tuapiki to the wing was a move the fans liked - a stodgy decision drawing ire from the fans would have been Ed Kosi to the wing. Yet in a match where we struggled for PCMs in the first twenty minutes his hit ups would have been quite valuable compared to Tuapiki's.

I am not advocating he should have done any of these conservative alternative stodgy decisions. But I am making a post that I saw this on the cards when the team list was named that we had picked a team the fans would pick rather than a stodgy stuck in the mud team the fans would have disliked but might have got the job across the line.
 
This is going to be an adventurous post based on an adventurous theory. Please skip this post if you like reading about facts and proven theories. This is a bit of conjecture. No Flames please as I don't even know if I can write this up well as it is a half thought only.

Whenever when following the black caps the selectors picked a team the fans would pick we lost badly. Whenever the selections were boring and stodgy leading to pages of complaints before the match the team did very well and exceeded all expectations.

This team for the Round one was more like a fan picked exciting team than a stodgy boring one an experienced coach would pick

1) Metcalf at 7 was adventurous and was either going to pay off in spades or be a clusterfuck and it proved to be the latter at least in this first game.
2) Egan playing the whole 80 and four forwards on the bench, Was a gamble on Egan's endurance. Did it work? I guess so. Nonetheless it was a risk.
3) Barnett to lock at the last minute to counter them putting their big guy at lock. Was an extravagant risk like a fan would come up with and not a long serving NRL coach.
4) Capewell swapped Edges to the 11 jersey - I understand he played much of last year at 12. That was a gamble probably to bring out the best of him and Niukore. Did it work. It didn't seem to. Unless they swapped on game day and didn't pay on the side their number indicated.
5) Metcalf was given the kicking duties when Pompey is more experienced. Another gamble when a stodgy decision would have been to stick with "the devil we know" ie Pompey.
6) In a move fans would make Leka and Vaimauga were selected on the bench, I don't know what to say about this as then they weren't actually used when the game was alive and in the balance.
7) CHt to 6 was a gamble ahead of the more proven TMM. This one seemed to pay off.
8) Tuapiki to the wing was a move the fans liked - a stodgy decision drawing ire from the fans would have been Ed Kosi to the wing. Yet in a match where we struggled for PCMs in the first twenty minutes his hit ups would have been quite valuable compared to Tuapiki's.

I am not advocating he should have done any of these conservative alternative stodgy decisions. But I am making a post that I saw this on the cards when the team list was named that we had picked a team the fans would pick rather than a stodgy stuck in the mud team the fans would have disliked but might have got the job across the line.
Maybe a compromise team?

Some movement from Webster on last year but still many stuck in the mud decisions:

Not using Vaimaunga and Leka because experience first, Ford heavily used, CNK before Tuaupiki or TMM, Capewell/ Niukore over Laban, etc

Many of those ‘boring’ coaching selections underperformed and it could be argued the boring selections cost us the game because he didn’t go fan favourite enough!
 
In 2018 Penrith was the youngest team in the NRL avg age 25

If Webby wants a dynasty he’s made a fatal flaw in recruiting all these experienced players JFH included and not followed the age old rebuild model

Live and learn


We are the hardest team to recruit for in the league, because no one wants to come NZ.

The only players we can attract are Kiwis who want to come back home, or Aussies on the outer.

We we're incredibly lucky to get someone like Reece Walsh. But they always want to go back when they crack it.

Who was the last big name Aussie in their prime we managed to lure here? Probably Steve Price (You could say Brent Tate but he only came here because of Price).

Todd Carney famously turned down $1m to come here (back when $1m would have made you the highest paid player in the game by alot)
 
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Maybe a compromise team?

Some movement from Webster on last year but still many stuck in the mud decisions:

Not using Vaimaunga and Leka because experience first, Ford heavily used, CNK before Tuaupiki or TMM, Capewell/ Niukore over Laban, etc

Many of those ‘boring’ coaching selections underperformed and it could be argued the boring selections cost us the game because he didn’t go fan favourite enough!
Madge last night made two very boring and stodgy selections with his centre and second rower and end result was Broncos thumping Le Rooster.
 
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