Post Match Raiders v Warriors - [Round 1, 2025]

[wizard of Tauranga]

In short, That's what I was getting at. Starting with Fish, Egan , Barney , Nuikore, Capewell is to damn old lol

Is this coaching style affecting recruitment?

Why come here as a mid tier player looking for an opening if the coach will favour experience and your form doesn’t open doors?

 

[run_it_str8_again]

Sure was bro.

Imagine being too old in this game and you become redundant then someone wise and all knowing says you don't hit your straps till you're older.

Then imagine being too young for first grade but then that all knowing bloke says your team needs to inject a bunch of young blokes.

 

[Noitall]

In short, That's what I was getting at. Starting with Fish, Egan , Barney , Nuikore, Capewell is to damn old lol

And to be fair the young guys making it impossible to not be selected are being selected in Leiataua, Vaimauga and Halasima. I can agree with you regarding Capewell and Niukore on what they’ve put out largely but feel like JFH and Barnett have plenty to offer. Egan is 27, but certainly his body has limitations. Like commentators were saying, he needs to take a big role with these inexperienced halves and is important to getting them space. Healey is highly regarded and has a real opportunity if he can grab it

 

[The Warrior Waka]

Imagine being too old in this game and you become redundant then someone wise and all knowing says you don't hit your straps till you're older.

Then imagine being too young for first grade but then that all knowing bloke says your team needs to inject a bunch of young blokes.

The physicality and demands on the body in the current game is making a rugby league pros career shorter and shorter. Players are getting bigger and faster every year.
Warriors in particular worry me. Very often we have a reliance on 1 or 2 players to take the game by the scruff of the neck and make the big plays. Or make a thousand tackles.

We love a good mid tier player. And we have always had players clubs don't want and expect our Shaun Johnsons and Simon Mannerings, Tohu Harris's to guide them to the promise land.

We seem to burn out players quicker than other clubs. Because of this heavy reliance on 1 or 2 players.
If Addin stayed , How long would he last before his body gave up?

Panthers had/have Cleary , Luai , Yeo , Fish, Leota , Dylan Edwards , Chricton, To'o to share the workload.

Melbourne have Papz, Munster, Hughes , Grant, Asofa Solomona, Coates , Wishart , Warbrick to share the workload.
Last year we had, SJ & Addin. This year we don't have either.Hard when big stars don't want to come here.
I guess we make do with what we have.

 

[Noitall]

Imagine being too old in this game and you become redundant then someone wise and all knowing says you don't hit your straps till you're older.

Then imagine being too young for first grade but then that all knowing bloke says your team needs to inject a bunch of young blokes.

Think it’s a fair estimation when considering the top front rowers in the game that this has some truth in that position anyway? We can all sit here and write as keyboard coaches but the coach is there at trainings etc to know firsthand why he’s making these selections. Obviously some experienced players are there setting standards too, it would be interesting to know the players that were apart of those late nights etc that was mentioned?

 

[The Warrior Waka]

And to be fair the young guys making it impossible to not be selected are being selected in Leiataua, Vaimauga and Halasima. I can agree with you regarding Capewell and Niukore on what they’ve put out largely but feel like JFH and Barnett have plenty to offer. Egan is 27, but certainly his body has limitations. Like commentators were saying, he needs to take a big role with these inexperienced halves and is important to getting them space. Healey is highly regarded and has a real opportunity if he can grab it

Gotcha bro. Barney is a beast ! Fish very underwhelming so far. Egan is one or two head knocks away from being medically retired.
Problem i have, Is how relatively small out pack is compared to others. And the toll is takes on Fish & Barney trying to cover the slower , Less physical pack mates.

Round 1 , Webby decides to bring Vaimauga on with 12 to go? Halasima has less time? And makes an immediate impact! ? Just to make it clear , The age of our team isn't the problem. Its the workload that lis thrust upon them due to our lack of physicality, skill and speed. Our older blokes have to make up for it in work ethic. We've burnt Charnze out. There is none heartier than our FB. His engine is huge! But it looks like it's taking its toll.

Balance. Better use of the bench. More game time for our youngsters. In particular Leka & Demetric. Yes, They do get it. But not this 12 mins a game shit.

 

[Noitall]

Gotcha bro. Barney is a beast ! Fish very underwhelming so far. Egan is one or two head knocks away from being medically retired.
Problem i have, Is how relatively small out pack is compared to others. And the toll is takes on Fish & Barney trying to cover the slower , Less physical pack mates.

Round 1 , Webby decides to bring Vaimauga on with 12 to go? Halasima has less time? And makes an immediate impact! ? Just to make it clear , The age of our team isn't the problem. Its the workload that lis thrust upon them due to our lack of physicality, skill and speed. Our older blokes have to make up for it in work ethic. We've burnt Charnze out. There is none heartier than our FB. His engine is huge! But it looks like it's taking its toll.

Balance. Better use of the bench. More game time for our youngsters. In particular Leka & Demetric. Yes, They do get it. But not this 12 mins a game shit.

Makes me wonder if it was some of the younger guys that were out late? Webster showed when he stood AFB down that he isn’t scared to make a statement. The Kevin Hart show mentioned gives me that impression? I might be way wrong though. JFH served up what his stats show, 117m and 36 tackles for 1 miss, but is not a AFB like for like replacement and we will need more. The club were transparent in their interest of Hazelton, which shows that there is a recognition that we need more grunt up front. I gone a bit cold on Hazelton though as a recruit for us though if I’m honest

 

[Noitall]

We've burnt Charnze out.

Don’t forget he fell out at of favour at the raiders and couldn’t make their first grade team before coming over. That after some great performances that saw him apart of the 2019 grand final. Feels like a similar scenario

 

[The Warrior Waka]

Don’t forget he fell out at of favour at the raiders and couldn’t make their first grade team before coming over. That after some great performances that saw him apart of the 2019 grand final. Feels like a similar scenario

Now i think about it.. It may be more so to do with CNK not having a long enough break. He played Kiwis and All Stars didn't he?

 

[The Warrior Waka]

Makes me wonder if it was some of the younger guys that were out late? Webster showed when he stood AFB down that he isn’t scared to make a statement. The Kevin Hart show mentioned gives me that impression? I might be way wrong though. JFH served up what his stats show, 117m and 36 tackles for 1 miss, but is not a AFB like for like replacement and we will need more. The club were transparent in their interest of Hazelton, which shows that there is a recognition that we need more grunt up front. I gone a bit cold on Hazelton though as a recruit for us though if I’m honest

Wasn't Leka & Deme being chaperoned by Rts the night before ? Took them shopping and a feed?
Never heard the story about players being out late? If that's the case, Ok. Oh well! Consequences to your actions young fullas.

 

[Noitall]

Wasn't Leka & Deme being chaperoned by Rts the night before ? Took them shopping and a feed?
Never heard the story about players being out late? If that's the case, Ok. Oh well! Consequences to your actions young fullas.

Shifted around a lot too. Played magic round and internationals at 6 and played centre at the end of last year

 

[the WARs]

How many of are FG team would even make a starting team in the rest of the NRL ... I love Chaze,Ford,Pompy efforts but really being put in off 2023 season form all were pretty average last year along with much of the team many needing to retire .. I really hope some of these young guys with potential get more than just 10-15mins .. we aren't going make the 8 playing off 2023 form ...

 

[The Warrior Waka]

Shifted around a lot too. Played magic round and internationals at 6 and played centre at the end of last year

Fuck, Poor Bloke!! Lol

 

[Noitall]

Wasn't Leka & Deme being chaperoned by Rts the night before ? Took them shopping and a feed?
Never heard the story about players being out late? If that's the case, Ok. Oh well! Consequences to your actions young fullas.

Yeah nothing to base it on anybody, was just saying about someone had a feeling they hadn’t got Las Vegas out of their system? Either way, they lost

 

[Noitall]

Fuck, Poor Bloke!! Lol

Another 6 to add to the collection

 

[Wahs_Ultras]

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[Noitall]

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They desperately need a response against manly. The performance, Agar and now this makes the trip a disaster really. Nobody would be talking about it apart from Agar’s situation with a victory or an admiral performance but as mentioned, things go under a microscope now. Will be interesting to see Webster’s response

 

[3rdstriker]

The whole team and culture is now coming under scrutiny, after a superb 2023 it doesn't take much and the wheels are falling off.