Gameday 2024 Trial 1 - Warriors vs Wests Tigers

[miket12]

I thought the crowd was amazing yesterday (except the pitch invaders), especially for a preseason game.

I thought we stood up well in the first twenty considering we had basically our NSW cup forward pack against a close to full strength NRL pack. Even at the end of the game, it looked like we had NSW reserves and juniors against a NSW cup team. To only go down by a missed conversion when playing for 60 minutes with 12 players, I’m proud of that effort.

The combination of RTS and Montoya is only going to get better. RTS is pure class!!!! And those fends from Montoya….. really hoping he’s in for a huge try scoring season!!!

Hanson was my pick of the halves.

 

[Cces]

Also, Tupouniua 96m (54m PC)

I know you're going off what the NRL site says but doesn't that seem excessive? With so many players coming & going I think those numbers may be inflated. Stowers-Smith for example is listed as only touching the ball once but I'm certain he had at least 2 hit ups to go along with another run before passing it on

 

[Cces]

Does Berry & Pompey get 40 minutes each this weekend to press their claims?
Berry developed immensely last season & formed a good combo with those around him but Pompey spent the first 10 games at right Centre in 2023 & statistically put out better numbers than he'd ever done on the left. He put a clinic on Bradman Best in one game too

 

[miket12]

I know you're going off what the NRL site says but doesn't that seem excessive? With so many players coming & going I think those numbers may be inflated. Stowers-Smith for example is listed as only touching the ball once but I'm certain he had at least 2 hit ups to go along with another run before passing it on

From what I understand, they review the game's and adjust the stats during the week.... I'd consider these stats "preliminary" until later. Even then, two people can look at the same game and give quite different results in terms of metres run, etc. nrlstats.com and the nrl site used to vary quite differently in their stats when the nrlstats site was running.

 

[Tragic]

Doing my best Bruce impersonation

I miss that annoying ol bugger.

 

[miket12]

Now the iPads playing up so I’ll do the tackles when I’m back on the PC.

More Bruce impersonations..... KiwiBuild, Eric Watson, Richard Fale, Carlaw Park.... sorry, got carried away.

Anyway, tackle stats......
RTS: 9 tackles made (T), 2 missed tackles (MT), 0 ineffective tackles (IT), 81.81% tackle efficiency.
Ali: 17 T, 2 MT, 0 IT, 89.47%
Bunty: 39 T, 2 MT, 1 IT, 92.86%
Ale: 27 T, 0 MT, 0 IT, 100.00%

Also, Laban: 39 T, 2 MT, 2 IT, 90.7%

As well as Ale, three other players made all their tackles (Moimoi, Graham-Taufa and Ieremia-Toeava) but they each only had to make three tackles. The worse tackle efficiency percentage was Montoya with 25% (he only completed 1 out of 4 tackles).... but he made up for that with "those" fends.

Most missed tackles was Ford with four and most ineffective tackles was Farr with three.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Quietly I'd think the coaches are chuffed that we had major adversity and rolled through it.

That’s my take. I’d be over the moon with the whole result. Zyon Maiu’u gets a valuable lesson, the boys have to work 2x as hard.

Can’t buy that sort of training.

 

[Inruin]

That’s my take. I’d be over the moon with the whole result. Zyon Maiu’u gets a valuable lesson, the boys have to work 2x as hard.

Can’t buy that sort of training.

Resilience.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

More Bruce impersonations..... KiwiBuild, Eric Watson, Richard Fale, Carlaw Park.... sorry, got carried away.

Anyway, tackle stats......
RTS: 9 tackles made (T), 2 missed tackles (MT), 0 ineffective tackles (IT), 81.81% tackle efficiency.
Ali: 17 T, 2 MT, 0 IT, 89.47%
Bunty: 39 T, 2 MT, 1 IT, 92.86%
Ale: 27 T, 0 MT, 0 IT, 100.00%

Also, Laban: 39 T, 2 MT, 2 IT, 90.7%

As well as Ale, three other players made all their tackles (Moimoi, Graham-Taufa and Ieremia-Toeava) but they each only had to make three tackles. The worse tackle efficiency percentage was Montoya with 25% (he only completed 1 out of 4 tackles).... but he made up for that with "those" fends.

Most missed tackles was Ford with four and most ineffective tackles was Farr with three.

Urgh. So Ford has to go? I’m a fan of his, but he has be on the chopping block.

My boy big Ale with 27t @ 100%. Massive..

 

[sup42]

I know you're going off what the NRL site says but doesn't that seem excessive? With so many players coming & going I think those numbers may be inflated. Stowers-Smith for example is listed as only touching the ball once but I'm certain he had at least 2 hit ups to go along with another run before passing it on

Yeah I saw Stowers Smith hit it up three times at least.

?Those numbers are Kaka

 

[miket12]

Urgh. So Ford has to go? I’m a fan of his, but he has be on the chopping block.

My boy big Ale with 27t @ 100%. Massive..

I'd had thought, given his form last year, the fact he's playing for his FG spot and his experience, that Ford would have had more of an impact yesterday. I think others like Laban played better than him. I was a bit disappointed he didn't take more his opportunity yesterday. He probably paid himself out of FG contention with that game.

 

[Tookey 2.0]

I'd had thought, given his form last year, the fact he's playing for his FG spot and his experience, that Ford would have had more of an impact yesterday. I think others like Laban played better than him. I was a bit disappointed he didn't take more his opportunity yesterday. He probably paid himself out of FG contention with that game.

I politely disagree sir. While Ford didn't have his greatest game, 100m and 35 tackles is still a good hit out in 50-60 min or what ever he played.

I'm guessing he was likely there as they wanted to test out the Metcalf/Ford/RTS/Montoya combo and see what they could get out of that, however after Zyon Maiu’u being sent off everything kind of went out the window and it was more defending and desperation so hard to gauge.

Ford's always been seen as a fit, hard worker, the only way he doesn't get picked is if that's dropped off, which I didn't really see yesterday so I reckon he'll be starting Rd 1

 

[Cces]

I politely disagree sir. While Ford didn't have his greatest game, 100m and 35 tackles is still a good hit out in 50-60 min or what ever he played.

I'm guessing he was likely there as they wanted to test out the Metcalf/Ford/RTS/Montoya combo and see what they could get out of that, however after Zyon Maiu’u being sent off everything kind of went out the window and it was more defending and desperation so hard to gauge.

Ford's always been seen as a fit, hard worker, the only way he doesn't get picked is if that's dropped off, which I didn't really see yesterday so I reckon he'll be starting Rd 1

To his credit, he marked Isaiah Papali'i & contained him well too

 

[Up the guttz]

Nothing at all about RTS or the Warriors!! According to this Sezer for daily M is a sure thing haha he did play decent, albeit against a cup team.

Xerri’s statement to Bulldogs coach; Bunnies’ Latrell back-up emerges: Trials Talking Points

Exiled star’s statement to Dogs coach; Bunnies’ Latrell solution emerges: What we learned

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[mrblonde]

The red card thing bugs me, not just our game but union as well.

IMO, there should be a 15 min period of down to 12 or 14 like a yellow then a replacement can be brought on but not the guy sent off.
Foul play should be treated differently but a lot of these cards are for bad technique or are accidental. Can make the game a non event especially if it happens early.

The perp can have a few weeks on the sideline but at least the games would be evenly matched and more of a spectacle

I don't subscribe to the idea that red cards ruin games. I've seen Warriors games where we've actually played better after we've had a player sent off.

Why is it okay that a player from Team A makes a tackle which at best is careless on a player from Team B so they go off injured so it's pretty much Best 17 on Best 16 but, no, the crowd want to see 17 on 17 so we cannot have the player from Team A Sent Off?

I thought a Yellow was the minimum charge yesterday so not bothered about the send-off in particular but I wonder if the length of time that was taken with the Tigers player was a factor in the send-off decision. Which is a murky road to go down. What, so sitting down and gritting your teeth over a tackle that leads to a ruptured ACL gets a "On Report" warning but rolling and screaming over a stubbed finger and having two trainers come to fix you up is Send Off material?

 

[Sir Arrow]

TIL from yesterday:

Depth Baby!

 

[Tragic]

Ford will play first game, webster knows he can make the step up and knows what he will get from him. But pressure is on to perform as the youngsters have skills he doesn't, so will be up to them to show they can step up and have the work ethic.
Exciting times.

 

[miket12]

I politely disagree sir. While Ford didn't have his greatest game, 100m and 35 tackles is still a good hit out in 50-60 min or what ever he played.

I'm guessing he was likely there as they wanted to test out the Metcalf/Ford/RTS/Montoya combo and see what they could get out of that, however after Zyon Maiu’u being sent off everything kind of went out the window and it was more defending and desperation so hard to gauge.

Ford's always been seen as a fit, hard worker, the only way he doesn't get picked is if that's dropped off, which I didn't really see yesterday so I reckon he'll be starting Rd 1

The good thing is, my opinion in the end, doesn't matter at all.... it's what the coach thinks that does.

 

[Wellington Warrior]

The judiciary charges are out for the weekends game.

No charges for any Wahs player. Zion free to play the next game!

 

[Wrighty]

Here is my review. No Flames for this please. Please politely disagree if you have an alternative opinion. These are just my opinions and I am not an expert and am new to league.

1) Zyon Maiu’u for the two minutes he was out there did not look effective at bending the line. That said two minutes isn't very long and would need to have a second look at him. What I did see what was not encouraging. I felt sorry for him with his send off as he was over excited and had been looking forward to the game for months and he got carried away. Poor guy must feel terrible today. I hope the coaching staff are sympathetic to him.

2) Ford looked like an upgrade on 2023 Ford. Like the 6 million dollar man opening he was "Bigger. Stronger. Faster". You could see he was a first grader playing against NSW cup level opponents. He looked like a Penrith forward who they bring off the bench and plays really well for them. He looked in great nick. Most importantly he didn't give away a penalty which must be a first for him.

3) Ali L did some good things and some bad things. He and Setu Tu were terrible beyond belief in letting in the second tigers try. That was keystone cops stuff. But physically he is a super star. Needs more time in NSW cup. Berry gets picked over him in my judgement.

4) CHT I thought was brilliant at distributing and getting the ball to the outside backs. He did do a Naff kick that went out on the full but nailed everything else. Some real heart on defence.

5) Metcalf gets a half mark from me. There were some good things he did such as the under ball to Laban for the try and some decent positional and long kicking. However there was the following
1) He was part of the rabble that defended or failed to defend the second soft tigers try. I saw him amongst the middle of it gently pulling at someone's jersey and getting swatted aside.
2) He didn't really feed his outside backs and give Setu Tu or Ali L time and space to work with and failed to feed them much at all
3) There was the Freddy Lussick line break and Freddy with one man to beat dished the ball off to Metcalf but the pass wasn't quite right and Metcalf spilled it and the try went begging. This sort of near try and dropped pill with the try line begging always happens to Luke as he over runs the play and didn't stay behind Lussick. Metcalf accelerated before he caught the ball. This is an ongoing issue that happens again and again.

6) RTS looked like an elite centre

7) shout out to Taine at fullback. I thought he was defensively superb and must have saved at least three tries that Reece would have let in. A little CNK in the making. He is really growing on me. Let's resign him.

8) I though Ben Farr had a day to forget.

9) Tom Ale I thought was very poor and often made negative post contact metres just like last year at NRL level. He got manhandled a lot and thrown backwards behind the line of advantage. While Bunty had the best game I have seen from him in a long time and I would put Bunty in the 17. I think Bunty did enough.

10) Tanners Stowers Smith. Nearly. Maybe. Give him another year in NSW cup I think. He is nearly good enough for NRL but not quite. He unlike Tom Ale did bend the line. But not by enough to really sit up and take notice. I really liked his intent.

Overall all our forwards looked in top physical condition and looked like better Athletes than the West Tigers players
For them i thought Sezer and Ice showed very well.