Post Match Raiders v Warriors - [Round 1, 2025]

[FormerlyJamesW]

Players have played pissed, hungover, hazed, high as kites, used during half time, had spirits in their drink bottles.

Sorry but in spite of all of that, you sometimes just gotta turn up.

Ya do the work, you get the treats.

Did they do the work?

Sorry, boys. Gotta earn the pokies.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

What time do these guys get up in the morning when travelling with games? I track my sleep and if I get up at 0600 I need to be ASLEEP by 2130 to get 8hrs of unbroken sleep.

 

[BangBro's (still banging)]

All this talk about getting home at midnight, I could not give two fucks!

It's all on performance on the pitch, this is what happens when you lose badly, people will find anything to say why that happend.

We saw two Raiders belt each other in a hotel, do you think that affected the performance?

 

[Mr Drag]

Too many one dimensional players on this team.

Two guys I would try to offload this offseason; Capewell and Nuikore etc. Taking up a shitload of salary cap and provide sweet fuck all.

CNK days at fullback are done. Get him out of that jersey. Taine needs to be playing no. 1 as of next week. I don't care about our wing crisis. Play Sio Kali on the wing or play Pompey on the wing with CNK at centre.

How does Ford kept getting picked ahead of Ale. And how does he keep getting more minutes than Halasima/Vaimauga. He provides absolutely nothing.

Put Laban in the team has well. I just thought we could do all this if we had a good coach?

 

[run_it_str8_again]

Ya do the work, you get the treats.

Did they do the work?

Sorry, boys. Gotta earn the pokies.

I agree with you and @Inruin. But I'm making the point that it was still possible to win that game by applying ourselves better.

Canberra behaved like goons in the week leading up to the game but still turned up to play.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

All this talk about getting home at midnight, I could not give two fucks!

It's all on performance on the pitch, this is what happens when you lose badly, people will find anything to say why that happend.

The show finished after. Lets say in bed at 1am, up at 7am. Thats 6hrs nominal. so 5-5.5 actual. Add alcohol and that goes down by 1/2. So you are looking at around 2.5 hrs of actually brain and muscle recovery...

Thats not what a professional would do.

 

[BangBro's (still banging)]

The show finished after. Lets say in bed at 1am, up at 7am. Thats 6hrs nominal. so 5-5.5 actual. Add alcohol and that goes down by 1/2. So you are looking at around 2.5 hrs of actually brain and muscle recovery...

Thats not what a professional would do.

It's not why we lost the game though. It's more the culture side of things, when you also take in what Agar Did.

Again, would the real journalists please stand up? Can someone find out exactly what took place and expose this!

 

[MrFrankWhite]

It's not why we lost the game though. It's more the culture side of things, when you also take in what Agar Did.

Again, would the real journalists please stand up? Can someone find out exactly what took place and expose this!

You are 100% right, but it speaks to the lack of focus in the club. As I've harped on about; winning has to be above all. Because then every decision is easy. I know fighters who are into biphasic sleep now. They get up in the middle to eat and go for a run, then go back to sleep. Fucking dedication. What do our boys do? Gamble...

 

[FormerlyJamesW]

I agree with you and @Inruin. But I'm making the point that it was still possible to win that game by applying ourselves better.

Canberra behaved like goons in the week leading up to the game but still turned up to play.

It's interlinked.

Athletes are heavily monitored.

Everything they eat, how much sleep they have, what training they do; it all makes a difference.

Hitting each other with a blow up bat is stupid, yes, but hardly affects their ability to play.

Staying up late, playing highly addictive and mentally draining games is much worse. Argue all you want, but casinos are designed, specifically, to exhaust you into making poor decisions.

if we had just lost, I wouldn't care. But there were pretty worrying signs early on in the game that a huge portion of the players just werent there mentally.

 

[Mr Drag]

All this talk about getting home at midnight, I could not give two fucks!

It's all on performance on the pitch, this is what happens when you lose badly, people will find anything to say why that happend.

We saw two Raiders belt each other in a hotel, do you think that affected the performance?

Both of them has great games! You might be on to something?

 

[MrFrankWhite]

It's interlinked.

Athletes are heavily monitored.

Everything they eat, how much sleep they have, what training they do; it all makes a difference.

Hitting each other with a blow up bat is stupid, yes, but hardly affects their ability to play.

Staying up late, playing highly addictive and mentally draining games is much worse. Argue all you want, but casinos are designed, specifically, to exhaust you into making poor decisions.

if we had just lost, I wouldn't care. But there were pretty worrying signs early on in the game that a huge portion of the players just werent there mentally.

Super succinct post. Biggest effects of all of this is delayed reaction time and reduced fine motor skills. 2 very important skills in almost all pro sports

 

[Mr Drag]

If anyone wants a good cry they are showing a full match replay at 3pm on you tube

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8dv2JbF5Jc

 

[roguei]

It's interlinked.

Athletes are heavily monitored.

Everything they eat, how much sleep they have, what training they do; it all makes a difference.

Hitting each other with a blow up bat is stupid, yes, but hardly affects their ability to play.

Staying up late, playing highly addictive and mentally draining games is much worse. Argue all you want, but casinos are designed, specifically, to exhaust you into making poor decisions.

if we had just lost, I wouldn't care. But there were pretty worrying signs early on in the game that a huge portion of the players just werent there mentally.

It's pretty depressing to have interviews with Vaimauga at the tail end of this year go on about diet and all that. Then this stuff happens. I agree that if we won then it's not a big deal but you run that risk when doing stuff like this.
If you played badly and you did not prepare the night/days before, then you deserve to be on the chopping block. At least some games to NSW league...


Now if the warrior's that were out last night are bunty, tmm, Healey and kosi. Then I don't exactly have a issue as they were not set to play.

 

[BangBro's (still banging)]

If anyone wants a good cry they are showing a full match replay at 3pm on you tube

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8dv2JbF5Jc

I am going to sit through that again later tonight.

I just need to make sure this wasn't a nightmare.

 

[Bay39er]

Player Charge Record Plea Penalty
Xavier Savage (Raiders) Grade 2 Dangerous Contact 1st offence TBC 1-2 matches
Joseph Tapine (Raiders) Grade 2 Shoulder Charge 1st offence TBC

 

[John Nick]

I am going to sit through that again later tonight.

I just need to make sure this wasn't a nightmare.

Don't torture yourself mate. It's a mare alright.
In fact you could throw a fn big saddle on it

 

[Inruin]

Player Charge Record Plea Penalty
Xavier Savage (Raiders) Grade 2 Dangerous Contact 1st offence TBC 1-2 matches
Joseph Tapine (Raiders) Grade 2 Shoulder Charge 1st offence TBC

I think those two incidents were handled adequately. I'm a bit surprised CNK didn't get any charge at all though

 

[Mr Drag]

Just watched the first 13 minutes and quickly see we need a real 7

 

[#robbiemears]

Robbie your takes always prove prophetic. You were right about Nathan Brown for example from day one. Should we persevere with Webster? Will he come good? What is your take on him? Does he have it?

@Wrighty, I think this year is a defining one for Webster. It’s unfortunate because he’s clearly a long-term thinker, just getting started in his coaching career. But the hype machine driven by Cam and the NZ media around "Wah-mania" has created expectations that commercial success alone can't sustain if the team keeps floundering. And it’s not just about losing — it’s how they’re losing.

Webster seems determined to turn the Warriors into a Penrith clone, mirroring their style and development model. The problem? He’s not Ivan Cleary, Metcalf is not Nathan Cleary, and the roster isn’t built for that approach. Where Penrith have game-breaking talent, the Warriors have inconsistency. Where the Panthers excel at disciplined, structured play, the Warriors have players who, in many cases, wouldn’t start at most NRL clubs.

The only coach who truly unlocked the Warriors’ potential was Daniel Anderson. He didn’t try to copy anyone — he built a team around the talent he had, blending work ethic, competitiveness, and natural skill into a style uniquely suited to them. No one since has replicated that formula.

Coaches imprint their personality onto their teams. Ricky Stuart’s Raiders reflect his hard-nosed, win-at-all-costs mentality. Craig Bellamy's Melbourne sides mirror his relentless work ethic from his playing days. Des Hasler's teams, like him, are intense, unorthodox, and tireless.

And Webster? He’s a nice guy, a personable guy, and his Warriors play exactly like that — safe, predictable, and completely lacking in bite. There’s no aggression, no spark, just rigid adherence to a system that already feels outdated.

 

[Nakiproud]

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