Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[Garry Saloon]

Because thats the frame of reference most understandable here. We can use indigenous Australians, west Africans where part of my heritage is from, native Americans. Same story

Don't know what point you're trying to make.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Don't know what point you're trying to make.

That it was a good thing that neolithic cultures were colonized, wherever that may have been.

 

[Garry Saloon]

Because thats the frame of reference most understandable here. We can use indigenous Australians, west Africans where part of my heritage is from, native Americans. Same story

Don't know what point you're trying to make.

That it was a good thing that neolithic cultures were colonized, wherever that may have been.

Total horseshit. You do not need to be colonised to benefit from the ideas and technologies of other cultures. The MRI was not invented by a New Zealander or Briton, nor was the plane, the car, countless other inventions and ideas. Most of these things arrived here through trade and cultural exchange. It is totally unnecessary to colonise a country for it to benefit from these things. Framing colonisation as something that was necessary to improve a country or people is pure rationalisation/justification of a crime.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Don't know what point you're trying to make.

Total horseshit. You do not need to be colonised to benefit from the ideas and technologies of other cultures. The MRI was not invented by a New Zealander or Briton, nor was the plane, the car, countless other inventions and ideas. Most of these things arrived here through trade and cultural exchange. It is totally unnecessary to colonise a country for it to benefit from these things. Framing colonisation as something that was necessary to improve a country or people is pure rationalisation/justification of a crime.

Really? The Sentinelese people are getting MRI's? Thats prime example of non colonized neolithic tribes. Have they achieved trade and cultural exchange?

 

[Garry Saloon]

Really? The Sentinelese people are getting MRI's? Thats prime example of non colonized neolithic tribes. Have they achieved trade and cultural exchange?

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No, because they don't want to. That's self-determination. The right of all peoples.

 

[Worried2Death]

I'm sure if say, China, came here and colonised/took over this country and banned gambling and alcohol and sugary drinks (all of which cause enormous harm) you'd give the whole colonisation thing a pass?

I watched a Xi speech where he proposed doing just that, but he called it de-colonialising. Wish we had some fluent Chinese speakers on here to tell us if the subtitles are accurate translations, and what he meant by that.

 

[Worried2Death]

Really? The Sentinelese people are getting MRI's? Thats prime example of non colonized neolithic tribes. Have they achieved trade and cultural exchange?

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Can he play halfback

 

[snake77]

I watched a Xi speech where he proposed doing just that, but he called it de-colonialising. Wish we had some fluent Chinese speakers on here to tell us if the subtitles are accurate translations, and what he meant by that.

A few years ago while driving home from work on the radio they had a piece on the news about an issue with China. I can't which minister it was trying to flex. It was our Ministers statement followed by the Chinese response.

The translation from the Chinese was blunt.

When you are used to politicians trying to be diplomatic or talking in circles it really stood out.