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The thread centers on New Zealand's upcoming election, primarily debating the economic management and policy differences between the center-left Labour government and center-right National/ACT opposition. Key criticisms target Labour's fiscal stewardship, citing ballooning government expenditure #7#272, housing unaffordability, and unfulfilled promises like KiwiBuild and dental care expansion #16#12. A user #7 highlighted Labour's annual 9% spending growth versus 1.5% under previous governments, arguing this fueled inflation. National's tax-cut policy faced scrutiny over funding gaps and legality, with user #215 questioning Luxon's reliance on "trust me" assurances.
Leadership competence emerged as a critical theme, particularly in later posts. Luxon drew heavy criticism after a contentious interview where he struggled to defend policy details #194#199#211, while Willis faced backlash for her economic credentials. Hipkins garnered fleeting praise for articulation but was ultimately seen as representing poor governmental outcomes #45#119. A trusted user #308 presented expert economic analysis contradicting Treasury optimism. Infrastructure issues—like Wellington's water crisis and the dental school staffing shortage—were cited as examples of systemic mismanagement #235#12. Notable policy debates included road-user charges for EVs #220, immigration impacts on rents #299, and coalition scenarios involving NZ First #182#258. Early fringe discussions on candidates' rugby allegiances gave way to substantive policy critiques, culminating in grim Treasury forecasts discussed in posts #271#304#308. User #168 also revealed concerns about Labour rushing regulatory changes to entrench policies pre-election.

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Economic Policies, Housing Crisis, Leadership Competence

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NZ and Australia are doing fairly well globally. Don’t see many left countries in this list. Look at what the left has done to Canada. It used to be wealthier than Australia, and that's despite its oil wealth.

It interesting how well balance NZ gdp to GNI is considering how much of the NZ economy is 'supposedly' foreign owned. Also shows NZ is rich on paper due to our over inflated property market but lacks a real economy (GDP/GNI)

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We read so much on this thread about corruption without giving one thought to the corruption which is the Life Insurance industry with policies designed to get so expensive that, if you pick the wrong one, it's most likely you'll cancel it before your demise meaning the company keeps all that you've paid into the insurance plus whatever return they've made investing that money, not on your, but on their behalf.

We're looking at our life insurance at the moment and got some prices and, if you don't set it up correctly or understand what's going to happen over time to your premiums, you/your family will almost certainly never back it until the end of the term without cancelling it.

If you take out an "Age-Related Plan" for $250,000 until from 60 - 80, the monthly premiums start at a nice $140 per month. All good and manageable... so you think but, by age 75, those monthly premiums have risen to $1,450 per month and, in the last year that you're covered, have reached $2,200 per month. In fact, even though the insurance company has had the "use of your money" for twenty years, the total accumulated premiums you've paid for that $250,000 cover is just over $225,000.

And, although it costs more initially per month to have a "level policy" where the premiums don't rise, you can get that $250,000 cover for $480 per monthly or a total accumulated premium amount of $125,000.

But there is another option.... insure yourself by taking out a smaller level policy of $100,000 for 20 years at $185 per month. When you retire, use part of your KiwiSaver (say $50,000) to insure yourself by putting that money into a growth managed fund with it making 5% after tax and fees. Through the magic of compounding interest, not only you won't have to contribute to it yourself, but after 14 and 1/2 years, your balance would have reached $100,000. Cancel your life insurance policy (it's cost you $32K to have $100K insurance for that 14 and 1/2 years).

Then, you have a decision to make, don't contribute anymore yourself and your balance has grown to $140,000 by time you're 80 or deposit the $185 per month you were paying for insurance, and your balance has grown to $155,000.... not a bad return on $32K and far better than living until you're 86 and not insured.
 
And then there's the even greater rip off.... funeral insurance. Got a quote from a company today for funeral insurance. To get just $15,000 cover costs just under $40 per fortnight. Not a lot.... until you work out that it's a life cover where the premiums stop at 80 so for me that's 21 years away. $40 x 26 fortnights per year x 21 years meaning I would be paying them just under $22,000 to receive $15,000 coverage.

And people think governments are corrupt!!!
 
We read so much on this thread about corruption without giving one thought to the corruption which is the Life Insurance industry with policies designed to get so expensive that, if you pick the wrong one, it's most likely you'll cancel it before your demise meaning the company keeps all that you've paid into the insurance plus whatever return they've made investing that money, not on your, but on their behalf.

We're looking at our life insurance at the moment and got some prices and, if you don't set it up correctly or understand what's going to happen over time to your premiums, you/your family will almost certainly never back it until the end of the term without cancelling it.

If you take out an "Age-Related Plan" for $250,000 until from 60 - 80, the monthly premiums start at a nice $140 per month. All good and manageable... so you think but, by age 75, those monthly premiums have risen to $1,450 per month and, in the last year that you're covered, have reached $2,200 per month. In fact, even though the insurance company has had the "use of your money" for twenty years, the total accumulated premiums you've paid for that $250,000 cover is just over $225,000.

And, although it costs more initially per month to have a "level policy" where the premiums don't rise, you can get that $250,000 cover for $480 per monthly or a total accumulated premium amount of $125,000.

But there is another option.... insure yourself by taking out a smaller level policy of $100,000 for 20 years at $185 per month. When you retire, use part of your KiwiSaver (say $50,000) to insure yourself by putting that money into a growth managed fund with it making 5% after tax and fees. Through the magic of compounding interest, not only you won't have to contribute to it yourself, but after 14 and 1/2 years, your balance would have reached $100,000. Cancel your life insurance policy (it's cost you $32K to have $100K insurance for that 14 and 1/2 years).

Then, you have a decision to make, don't contribute anymore yourself and your balance has grown to $140,000 by time you're 80 or deposit the $185 per month you were paying for insurance, and your balance has grown to $155,000.... not a bad return on $32K and far better than living until you're 86 and not insured.
Why do you need life insurance? Once your dead…

Surely you have a house with equity and KiwiSaver. Your kids are old enough to support themselves?

Same with funeral cover, you have equity?
 
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