NRL Ladder Predictions 2025

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Sorry, this isn't quite predicting where we finish on the 2025 ladder.

If you haven't seen the Bloke In A Bar season review on YouTube then go check it out:

Some key takeaways:

2024 - Points Scored 512
Points Against 574

2023 - Points Scored 572
Points Against 448

60 points difference in the points scored stat of 2023/2024.

Tackles inside opposition 20 - Warriors came 1st in this stat!

Here lays the issue as to our problem in 2024. The continued attacking structure from 2023 became very predictable and was continued to be the go to play.

A full review of the attack and a new implementation for 2025, would likely deliver some better outcomes if we produce a similar stat in the opposition 20.

Summery is that statistically, our 2024 season could have been very different had we struck a handful more wins!

Is there really no faith in the Warriors improving in 2025 based on the above? Does Shaun Johnson really make that difference or can a Luke Metcalf and Co do the job?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwHqzHni8LM
 
Sorry, this isn't quite predicting where we finish on the 2025 ladder.

If you haven't seen the Bloke In A Bar season review on YouTube then go check it out:

Some key takeaways:

2024 - Points Scored 512
Points Against 574

2023 - Points Scored 572
Points Against 448

60 points difference in the points scored stat of 2023/2024.

Tackles inside opposition 20 - Warriors came 1st in this stat!

Here lays the issue as to our problem in 2024. The continued attacking structure from 2023 became very predictable and was continued to be the go to play.

A full review of the attack and a new implementation for 2025, would likely deliver some better outcomes if we produce a similar stat in the opposition 20.

Summery is that statistically, our 2024 season could have been very different had we struck a handful more wins!

Is there really no faith in the Warriors improving in 2025 based on the above? Does Shaun Johnson really make that difference or can a Luke Metcalf and Co do the job?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwHqzHni8LM

I get the worry with the attack in opposition 20, and i do think that Metcalf ( or just a consistent halves combo) will assist with this, for me its just Shaun and TMM together was to robotic Metcalf should add some options with just the support play he had demonstrated.

For me the larger issue is the extra 100 + conceded the 60 points could just be missed conversion with Shaun out for so long. Thats just to much of a slip especially if we spend so long in the 20, just long range or soft every time they make it to our end
 
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Sorry, this isn't quite predicting where we finish on the 2025 ladder.

If you haven't seen the Bloke In A Bar season review on YouTube then go check it out:

Some key takeaways:

2024 - Points Scored 512
Points Against 574

2023 - Points Scored 572
Points Against 448

60 points difference in the points scored stat of 2023/2024.

Tackles inside opposition 20 - Warriors came 1st in this stat!

Here lays the issue as to our problem in 2024. The continued attacking structure from 2023 became very predictable and was continued to be the go to play.

A full review of the attack and a new implementation for 2025, would likely deliver some better outcomes if we produce a similar stat in the opposition 20.

Summery is that statistically, our 2024 season could have been very different had we struck a handful more wins!

Is there really no faith in the Warriors improving in 2025 based on the above? Does Shaun Johnson really make that difference or can a Luke Metcalf and Co do the job?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwHqzHni8LM

If you look at the for and against + results with TMM at 7 vs SJ at 7 for the same things, the difference becomes very stark.

I don't have an issue with LM and TMM partnering in the halves and delivering. My major concern is keeping them both on the field for any length of games.

If AW gets his selections right particularly in the 1-5 positions and back row, as well as utilising the bench a little better, I'm optimistic of a decent season.
 
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Those lists are always pretty much a “whose your favourite team and make some shit up to justify it” rather than anything of note
Legit, like titans as contenders 2025 and then to rip us apart for halves when the bulldogs are not really a serious contender with the combo of burton and sexton

Just an exercise in playing favourites
 
Got no idea what to expect... 2023 was a surprise package and caught everyone off guard... 2024 killed by key injuries, too predictable and speed exposed how slow they really are.. also in some cases footy IQ was non existent when needed..
2025 the roster aint changed much since 23. The first crop of new development players are still a year or 2 away..
Webby needs new blood and ideas from his coaching and training staff.
So to sum it up same as last year...
 
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We’ve got a few weak areas in the spine and backs which are your ceiling raisers. Got a good pack with depth and two gun props who will raise the floor.

Comes down to Metcalf and Egan really for me, they stay fit and fire we could be mid to lower 8. If they don’t somewhere around 10-13 would be my pick.
 
I'm picking us to finish 13 to 17.

1. Slowest team in the comp

2. Weakest backline in the comp

3. No consistency in dummy half (Egan getting knocked out every other week)

4. No consistency in the halves. CHT wouldn't make any other NRL team, Metcalf is unproven and already injury prone (that hammy and knee will only get worse from here), Boyd is a backup 6 at best, TMM was invisible as a 6 and has zero kicking game as a 7.

5. One of, if not the lowest IQ team in the comp. Can't remember the last time we got one over the opposition tactically, but can count endless dumbshit we've done on the field.

6. One of, if not the lowest coaching IQ in the comp. Webster might have traits of a good coach but his team selection, bench selection, position selection has been mediocre more times than not. Kicking coaching is non-existent. Halves coaching is questionable. 2023 was an outlier with SJ having a blinder.

6. One of, if not the softest team in the comp. We get shafted by the opposition, the refs and the NRL every single week. These repeated shaftings affect the team morale. Tohu Harris ain't the onfield leader we need. AW needs to drop the saints act and speak up when necessary. CG and the club must stop religiously holding on to 'the good guys of the comp' tag and do right by the players, fans and sponsors. Until and unless the club stands up for itself, we will keep getting shafted and remain everyone's bitch.

7. One of, if not the least skilled team in the comp. I can't remember the last time we kicked a 40/20, or scored a length of the field try, or scored off a torpedo kick, or scored off a chip and chase. Let's not forget our inability to kick us into field position, convert tries, penalties, or field goals.

Waiting for juniors to come good in 2 years time is no good if those juniors develop around these gaping holes.

Edit: I meant the weakest backline not the spine!
 
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I'm picking us to finish 13 to 17.

1. Slowest team in the comp

2. Weakest spine in the comp

3. No consistency in dummy half (Egan getting knocked out every other week)

4. No consistency in the halves. CHT wouldn't make any other NRL team, Metcalf is unproven and already injury prone (that hammy and knee will only get worse from here), Boyd is a backup 6 at best, TMM was invisible as a 6 and has zero kicking game as a 7.

5. One of, if not the lowest IQ team in the comp. Can't remember the last time we got one over the opposition tactically, but can count endless dumbshit we've done on the field.

6. One of, if not the lowest coaching IQ in the comp. Webster might have traits of a good coach but his team selection, bench selection, position selection has been mediocre more times than not. Kicking coaching is non-existent. Halves coaching is questionable. 2023 was an outlier with SJ having a blinder.

6. One of, if not the softest team in the comp. We get shafted by the opposition, the refs and the NRL every single week. These repeated shaftings affect the team morale. Tohu Harris ain't the onfield leader we need. AW needs to drop the saints act and speak up when necessary. CG and the club must stop religiously holding on to 'the good guys of the comp' tag and do right by the players, fans and sponsors. Until and unless the club stands up for itself, we will keep getting shafted and remain everyone's bitch.

7. One of, if not the least skilled team in the comp. I can't remember the last time we kicked a 40/20, or scored a length of the field try, or scored off a torpedo kick, or scored off a chip and chase. Let's not forget our inability to kick us into field position, convert tries, penalties, or field goals.

Waiting for juniors to come good in 2 years time is no good if those juniors develop around these gaping holes.
Why are you even here mate 😂
 
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Every year I have us somewhere between 6th and 8th but I’m struggling to see it this year tbh- it’s not impossible but we’d need a lot of things to go right (we’re due a bit of luck tbf).

Storm
Sharks
Panthers
Manly
Broncos
Roosters
Cowboys
Souths

Bulldogs
Warriors
Titans
Tigers
Dolphins
Knights
Raiders
Dragons
Eels
 
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Those lists are always pretty much a “whose your favourite team and make some shit up to justify it” rather than anything of note
Always said the Warriors Could re-incarnate Dally Messenger and Jack Gibson and assemble basically the best Top 30 it is possible to assemble if you can re-incarnate the dead/magically make injuries etc to the Living/Modern Retired Greats disappear so they can play at 100% again, bring them all up to speed with the current NRL and the general talk over in Australia would still be "Jeez, those Warriors, mate, I mean, yeah, they'll give it everything, of course they will. But, y'know, for moine, I don't see how they get out of Wooden Spoon position." And they might throw in another "for moine", just in case the viewers don't get that the pundit's giving his personal POV....

Warriors between 7-10.

Raiders the same, basically. They've always been that kind of team.

Hope the Storm suck. Never liked 'em. Never will.

Wayne will have a pretty good 2025 ie finals and suddenly announce after the season's gone that that's all she wrote, folks! and he'll become a DOF or something similar at Souths.

Benji to become a pikelet maker par excellance as he gets another wooden spoon. So yet another great player sucks at being coach. Back to assistant for BM. No shame in that.
 
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Every year I have us somewhere between 6th and 8th but I’m struggling to see it this year tbh- it’s not impossible but we’d need a lot of things to go right (we’re due a bit of luck tbf).

Storm
Sharks
Panthers
Manly
Broncos
Roosters
Cowboys
Souths

Bulldogs
Warriors
Titans
Tigers
Dolphins
Knights
Raiders
Dragons
Eels
Yup, makes a lot of sense I think . Only ones I'm unsure of would be roosters and cowboys in the 8

Roosters with Trent being injured and possibly not involved heavily in preseason plus they have lost a lot of players including their two centres, plus older players like Teddy I'm not sure can maintain form like he had this season.

Cowboys can just be so inconsistent and they tend to get hit hard at origin time.

I'd have us in the 8 over one of them.
 
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