Bay39er
Contributor
Even when TMM got the ball in hand all he thought of was to try and jinx his way through the defence - passing or setting up those outside him didn't enter his head
Player Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
- Thread starter WahsaurusRex
- Start date
- Date of Birth
- Jun 5, 1993
- Birth Location
- Apia, Samoa
- Nationality
- 🇳🇿 New Zealand
- 🇼🇸 Samoa
- Height (cm)
- 182 cm
- Weight (kg)
- 99 kg
- Position/s
- Fullback
- Centre
- Winger
- Nickname
- RTS
- Warrior #
- 203
- Warriors Debut Date
- Mar 5, 2016
- Warriors Debut Details
- 2016, Round 1, Wests Tigers
- Warriors Years Active
- 2016
- 2017
- 2018
- 2019
- 2020
- 2021
- 2024
- Signed From
- Sydney Roosters, Auckland Blues (Rugby Union)
- Rep Honours
- NZ
- Awards/Honours
- Warriors Captain
- Warriors Player of the Year
- Golden Boot
- Dally M (Positional Award)
- Dally M (Overall)
- Status
- Active
- Rugby League Project
- https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/players/roger-tuivasa-sheck/summary.html
Is Roger playing on the wrong side?
When we signed him and said he would play centre, I naturally assumed he would be right centre as he is a left foot stepper he would beat his man on the outside.
Obviously hasn't set the world on fire at left centre but a lot of talk that people at the game could hear the Dragons defence shouting 'left foot, left foot'. He doesn't head back in a lot...
Berry has not much more than a kick chase at the moment but I think many of us are asking for a bit more. Put Rog on the right, make it that killer edge.
When we signed him and said he would play centre, I naturally assumed he would be right centre as he is a left foot stepper he would beat his man on the outside.
Obviously hasn't set the world on fire at left centre but a lot of talk that people at the game could hear the Dragons defence shouting 'left foot, left foot'. He doesn't head back in a lot...
Berry has not much more than a kick chase at the moment but I think many of us are asking for a bit more. Put Rog on the right, make it that killer edge.
I haven’t had a look at many of the previous posts around RTS , so this may have already been said …
Let’s unlock the LHS and give RTS a decent go.
SJ is the dominant player but they need to give TMM a decent run.
Let’s unlock the LHS and give RTS a decent go.
SJ is the dominant player but they need to give TMM a decent run.
John Nick
Contributor
My thoughts are that TMM needs to be up in the line and demanding the ball to open up the left edge.
Seems to be hanging back but just my opinion
tajhay
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2. Roger might be a problem
Let’s be real, however. The defence was good because there were shapes to defend and, for once, it looked like the Titans had seen them before.Against Manly, they seemed shocked by the idea that Tom Trbojevic might turn up in a right side shape, somewhat quaint given Des coached him for four years.
This time, however, they’d done their homework and, despite conceding twice in the opening ten minutes to moves we’ve seen a hundred times, they did eventually kick into action.
What helped was that the Wahs have been running a lot of the same stuff for a whiel now.
There’s two pet plays – one to Addin Fonua-Blake, the other to Dallin Watene-Zelezniak – that they love, and once you start to stop them, there doesn’t seem to be much that follows.
Intrinsically, the Andrew Webster edition of the Warriors has been quite conservative.
They’ve got the lowest pass-per-run ratio (PPR) in the league, 1.16, tied with the Sharks and Broncos, but differ in that they also have one of the lowest hit up percentages (HU%).
What does that mean? If you look at the PPR of an expansive side, it’s either because they’re hitting the edges early – Manly, for example, are miles ahead on 1.36 – or low, because they play one-out for the first few tackles, then go wide, in which case you’d get a high HU% to go with it, as in the case of the Sharks and Bronx.
New Zealand have a low PPR and a low HU%. They also have an 81% completion rate, suggesting a focus on error-free footy over risk.
That’s lead to multiple games where they’ve piled on pressure, but not broken opponents. Cronulla, Canberra, Manly and now the Titans have made this side struggle.
An issue to follow is Roger Tuivasa-Sheck. His personal PPR was 1.2, with 15 runs from 18 possessions, compared to Rocco Berry, who was a round 2 with five runs from ten possessions.
Obviously, RTS is a great set starter, but it also speaks to a guy who isn’t getting the ball to the man outside of him.
Is that him? Is that defences knowing that he likes to step inside? Either way, it’s a block in their attack at the moment and one that Webster has to try to solve soon.
This is the point im trying to make. 10 crash balls on the 10m line isnt the type of "pressure" that Webby and some fans think it is.
I thought it was interesting that the one time the ball went to Montoya on the left in the attacking zone, we then found space in the middle for AFBs second try on the very next play.
The annoying thing is, that kind of basic “pressure” is actually working for the opposition against us atm
Beastmode
Contributor
A crash ball doesn’t dent the line without size and agility
We need Marata back to add that point of difference
Everyone else are easy pickings
Ever Hopeful
Contributor
Nothing surprising there.
Ever Hopeful
Contributor
I hope it puts the perspective on the shade thrown at Montoya a bit. RTS kept possession 15/18 times, and Montoya has received some hospital passes at times. Having said that RTS hasn't had much space to work with either.
Wingers need the ball to gain confidence and momentum.
Wingers need the ball to gain confidence and momentum.
To be fair to RTS, he isn't getting a lot of quality ball. Most of his receives have either been turning him back on the inside or passes from dummy half hitting it up. Not great opportunities to showcase any great passing skills he may have. We definitely need to open up the left edge a lot more.
Stalefish540
Contributor
I've never thought of him as a quality distributor, so the lack of quality ball is only going to shine a spotlight on it further.
I never watched him in rugby, so maybe he got better. But an elite runner with a nice flick and the odd pass was how I remember him at fullback for us.
John Nick
Contributor
While I am not suggesting switching him to fb he has always been an individualist.
Dies with the ball a lot.
Great player but defence in the line is not great and was always going to find the transition hard
No.........
Pompey is a better defender and has more vision, the only thing with pompey is he's not as explosive. I would sub his pace for a better defender and passer at centre, just me though.
I do know that RTS would absolutely kill the wing spot for webby, more than Maontoya will at this stage.
He's a better runner than Montoya, I'm more convinced that CNK, RTS, and DWZ is a more lethal outside combo. Not the best defensively but will score more points. We lose absolutely nothing dropping Montoya and bringing Pompey in!
I think Montoya at centre and RTS at wing would have been better too. Would have given RTS and better introduction back in to playing in the frontline and work towards moving to centre. I actually think his defence has been ok but will be in for a real test against more heavily right edge attacking teams like the Panthers coming up.
John Nick
Contributor
The biggest problem we have is defence so if you can't tackle at centre swapping to the wing or back to centre you shouldn't be playing fg.
Stevie Wonder has better vision than Pompey
It’s a great line.
But Rts has not shown any better
