Politics ðŸ¤¡ Donald Trump

It's economic, I don't think this has much to do with gender or race. Exit polling pointed to economic conditions worsening for most people.
The Dems have offered very little to working people. No campaigning for healthcare or wages - the Dems tried to capture the no-trump republican vote, which failed miserably.
Progressive ballot initiatives, like minimum wage increases and abortion rights passed pretty convincingly in red states where Trump did well like Alaska, Montana, Arizona, and Missouri.
Agree it is too easy to blame it on misogyny or racism. People jump on those two things to quickly nowadays.

In the end she wasn't a good candidate.

I would say the same would have happened if they continued with Biden. Trump getting voted out was the first time in a long time a president didn't get voted in for a second time. So, they can compare a Trump term to a Biden/Harris term.

It came up briefly here before the election. The comparison to Ardern taking over before the election. I've mentioned that Ardern didn't know her policies in detail or discussed things that weren't a government issue. But I can see why people voted for her as she was detailing a vision. If she was asked something she'd outline why things would be better. The "Let's do this" phrase worked as people wanted change.

Harris on the other hand wasn't selling much of a vision besides women's rights and not Trump. She should have had some policies that she wanted to improve from the previous 4 years.

People have said she has policies, do some research. Americans who were her voting base didn't know her policies. People reporting on the election didn't know her policies. That is a big problem.

She said she will continue to fight. That may just be in the house over the next four years. Let's see if she can win the primaries over other candidates.

Let's see how the vote with a strong female candidate.
 
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Agree it is too easy to blame it on misogyny or racism. People jump on those two things to quickly nowadays.

In the end she wasn't a good candidate.

I would say the same would have happened if they continued with Biden. Trump getting voted out was the first time in a long time a president didn't get voted in for a second time. So, they can compare a Trump term to a Biden/Harris term.

It came up briefly here before the election. The comparison to Ardern taking over before the election. I've mentioned that Ardern didn't know her policies in detail or discussed things that weren't a government issue. But I can see why people voted for her as she was detailing a vision. If she was asked something she'd outline why things would be better. The "Let's do this" phrase worked as people wanted change.

Harris on the other hand wasn't selling much of a vision besides women's rights and not Trump. She should have had some policies that she wanted to improve from the previous 4 years.

People have said she has policies, do some research. Americans who were her voting base didn't know her policies. People reporting on the election didn't know her policies. That is a big problem.

She said she will continue to fight. That may just be in the house over the next four years. Let's see if she can win the primaries over other candidates.

Let's see how the vote with a strong female candidate.
You may be right but I doubt they ever vote in a female leader. Even the iron maiden couldn’t win over those backward Christians.

Tax cuts were probably the difference. I guess if he slashes military spending, he can offset the cost of the tax cuts but then there’ll be a lot of unemployed soldiers….that can’t be a bad thing right?
 
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To add to this, America has a lunatic of a President with a bloke who owns the biggest propaganda machine the world has ever seen as his best mate

I reckon someone will shoot Trump
 
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America is going full on bat shit mental. So far Trump is nominating an alleged sex criminal as attorney general, a vaccine denier as health secretary and the world’s richest man in a role to reduce government expenditure. It’s like Haiti ffs
Crazy how the polls could get it so wrong with republicans absolutely trouncing democrats. What an amazing feat it would be to paint a picture of election interference against himself all while committing election interference to get into power. Long bow to draw but nobody saw the level of the win coming
 
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I don't mind the appointment of RFK jr in the health role. he wants to clean up their diets and tackle obesity. That will flow onto their health system having less pressure on it. We need to tackle our obesity rates as well.

The vaccine hesitancy. My understanding he is against specific ones or certain methodologies being used.

I do find it funny how we already knew he was being appointed to that role. It gets reported. Then for some reason, a more opinionated on then gets published. We seem to be getting a lot of articles on who he is appointing so the media can keep the grift going. In a few months are any of these going to affect us here in NZ? likely no.
 
44 years they went from #1 in education to #36
44 years they went from top 10 in health to LAST in OECD countries...
A lot of deflection in this post. What were the figures in those 2 categories over the 4 years he was president.

I don't really invest much energy into arguing over trump anymore but I will definitely be here to say I told you so after his presidency turns to shit over the next 4 years.
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A lot of deflection in this post. What were the figures in those 2 categories over the 4 years he was president.

I don't really invest much energy into arguing over trump anymore but I will definitely be here to say I told you so after his presidency turns to shit over the next 4 years.
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Lol what? The US has been in a constant state of decline for nearly half century. Now you are claiming that shining a light on these matters is somehow his failure?
 
Lol what? The US has been in a constant state of decline for nearly half century. Now you are claiming that shining a light on these matters is somehow his failure?
Not just them but many western countries while Asian countries have been rising. America has been doing well under Biden in the last couple of years and bounced back well after covid with low unemployment and certain states having better gdps than countries. They’ve voted for this just as many countries have voted for right wing politics. Trumps first presidency he was surrounded by some normal people, this time is different all while having full power in the senate. I worry where this heads to to, my initial thought is Ivanka first female president after him followed by Baron
 
America is going full on bat shit mental. So far Trump is nominating an alleged sex criminal as attorney general, a vaccine denier as health secretary and the world’s richest man in a role to reduce government expenditure. It’s like Haiti ffs

You forgot the Russian asset as Director of National Intelligence, who just so happens to have been active in the US military for 20 years and hasn't been turfed out for aforementioned Russian-ness but still definitely a Putin puppet. ;)
 
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Not just them but many western countries while Asian countries have been rising. America has been doing well under Biden in the last couple of years and bounced back well after covid with low unemployment and certain states having better gdps than countries. They’ve voted for this just as many countries have voted for right wing politics. Trumps first presidency he was surrounded by some normal people, this time is different all while having full power in the senate. I worry where this heads to to, my initial thought is Ivanka first female president after him followed by Baron
I didn't think Ivanka was eligible as she wasn't born in the US ?
 
Lol what? The US has been in a constant state of decline for nearly half century. Now you are claiming that shining a light on these matters is somehow his failure?
Nope but you deflected the post regarding trumps terrible picks for cabinet positions by changing the subject (deflection).
 
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Gaetz is a weird fuck but hasn't been convicted of anything. Doubt he will be any good at the job though.
RFK is a good choice, they need to sort out the health system and the influence of drug companies, in regards to vaccines generally I think he is wrong but the jury is out on the COVID vaccines, they were definitely rushed and in general didnt work and made the companies putting them out even richer.
Elon - well he cant be bought and he has a history of cutting out waste without impact to output so..............
 
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