Politics 🤡 Donald Trump

[Wrighty]

If you want standard msm coverage all the major US networks stream free on YouTube, except the cable ones you mentioned.

So I can watch ABC? I will check out youtube now - thanks worried.

 

[Worried2Death]

So I can watch ABC? I will check out youtube now - thanks worried.

Yup just click the live link.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-mvUkiILTqI&pp=uAQw

 

[Tragic]

I kinda hope Trump gets in. I know he is a cock but he is the only chance the US have of making any significant change to their corrupt political system where you can only get into power if you are a part of the system and backed by big business, whether republican or Democrat.
At least with trump you will get change, you might not know what the hell kind of change you are going to get but at this point anything might be better than what they have now and the direction they are going.
In actual fact it probably doesn't matter a whole lot who is in; the bureaucracy most likely runs the country for the most part but Trump is also more likely to make any dent in that because he isn't there to make anyone happy and keep all his cronies supported through the next election cycles.

 

[Funky Ed Koosie]

I kinda hope Trump gets in. I know he is a cock but he is the only chance the US have of making any significant change to their corrupt political system where you can only get into power if you are a part of the system and backed by big business, whether republican or Democrat.
At least with trump you will get change, you might know what the hell kind of change you are going to get but at this point anything might be better than what they have now and the direction they are going.
In actual fact it probably doesn't matter a whole lot who is in; the bureaucracy most likely runs the country for the most part but Trump is also more likely to make any dent in that because he isn't there to make anyone happy so he can keep all his cronies supported through the next election cycles.

Huh

 

[Bay39er]

Guys how can I watch the US election blow by blow as it comes in? I have the sky sports package and don't have Fox news or CNN.

You’ll find that TVOne will be taking a continuous feed from their US affiliate who (iirc) is the ABC

 

[Hardyman's Yugo]

I kinda hope Trump gets in. I know he is a cock but he is the only chance the US have of making any significant change to their corrupt political system where you can only get into power if you are a part of the system and backed by big business, whether republican or Democrat.
At least with trump you will get change, you might not know what the hell kind of change you are going to get but at this point anything might be better than what they have now and the direction they are going.
In actual fact it probably doesn't matter a whole lot who is in; the bureaucracy most likely runs the country for the most part but Trump is also more likely to make any dent in that because he isn't there to make anyone happy and keep all his cronies supported through the next election cycles.

So you think somebody who has been proven in court to be corrupt is best placed to sort out corruption? Not sure that would be a widely held view

 

[Tragic]

So you think somebody who has been proven in court to be corrupt is best placed to sort out corruption? Not sure that would be a widely held view

The majority of Americans (>80%) believe that the two parties are more interested in fighting each other than running govt because nobody else outside those two can get an opportunity to run; that the cost of running means nobody good gets an opportunity to run; that special interest groups and lobbyists have a major say in what happens in politics.
The whole system is corrupt. The only opportunity to change it is for someone from outside the two party "machines" to win; Trump is disconnected from the machine and in reality the Republicans don't want him, he has been forced on them.

If not Trump, then what's the answer? I am sure people in America know he is far from perfect but the desire to override the system and make change means that is their only option.

 

[Hardyman's Yugo]

The majority of Americans (>80%) believe that the two parties are more interested in fighting each other than running govt because nobody else outside those two can get an opportunity to run; that the cost of running means nobody good gets an opportunity to run; that special interest groups and lobbyists have a major say in what happens in politics.
The whole system is corrupt. The only opportunity to change it is for someone from outside the two party "machines" to win; Trump is disconnected from the machine and in reality the Republicans don't want him, he has been forced on them.

If not Trump, then what's the answer? I am sure people in America know he is far from perfect but the desire to override the system and make change means that is their only option.

Maybe so but Trump isn’t the answer. A lot of people think he wants a one party state with him in charge of it. He’s akin to a third world leader who sees political power as a way of enriching himself

 

[Hardyman's Yugo]

There’s a lot of stuff on X suggesting very high voter turnout in some states


View: https://x.com/EarlOfEnough/status/1852026273188479153

 

[Tragic]

Maybe so but Trump isn’t the answer. A lot of people think he wants a one party state with him in charge of it. He’s akin to a third world leader who sees political power as a way of enriching himself

If you're an American voter there is no other answer than to continue to support the status quo; that's not an option for some people. So someone who doesnt follow the script and becomes a quasi dictator or cant be constrained\guided by the parties rules is an attractive option. And he isn't really a dictator as he doesn't have that kind of power because the bureaucracy and rules limit it, so there is risk he will do damage but there is also a chance he might effect change of the system, I think thats what people are voting for - I doubt it will work as the machine will just roll back in after 4 years but who knows.

 

[Worried2Death]

If you're an American voter there is no other answer than to continue to support the status quo; that's not an option for some people. So someone who doesnt follow the script and becomes a quasi dictator or cant be constrained\guided by the parties rules is an attractive option. And he isn't really a dictator as he doesn't have that kind of power because the bureaucracy and rules limit it, so there is risk he will do damage but there is also a chance he might effect change of the system, I think thats what people are voting for - I doubt it will work as the machine will just roll back in after 4 years but who knows.

Would you trust him around your daughter? I fukn wouldn't.

 

[Brightman]

Maybe so but Trump isn’t the answer. A lot of people think he wants a one party state with him in charge of it. He’s akin to a third world leader who sees political power as a way of enriching himself

View: https://youtu.be/IUJMyTJ9gyI?feature=shared

 

[Tragic]

Would you trust him around your daughter? I fukn wouldn't.

Do you think the world is safer for your daughter with a person in charge of the biggest military machine that has said he will stop the wars and doesn't have a history of propping up countries with "free" arms. OR a person who is currently part of the system involved in supporting those wars and who will most likely continue to do so and it's more beholden to the companies that want them to continue?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Do you think the world is safer for your daughter with a person in charge of the biggest military machine that has said he will stop the wars and doesn't have a history of propping up countries with "free" arms. OR a person who is currently part of the system involved in supporting those wars and who will most likely continue to do so and it's more beholden to the companies that want them to continue?

Interesting bigger picture analysis.

You’re saying too many people are personalising the election instead of voting on policy? Americans have a bigger, longer term view than the rest of us?

Us small minded insignificant country observers are thinking like school student elections, where the cool kids win every time? (Like Jacinda?)

I’m glad those intellectuals in the US have the responsibility of choosing the leader of the free world and not us

 

[Brightman]

Do you think the world is safer for your daughter with a person in charge of the biggest military machine that has said he will stop the wars and doesn't have a history of propping up countries with "free" arms. OR a person who is currently part of the system involved in supporting those wars and who will most likely continue to do so and it's more beholden to the companies that want them to continue?

I'm unsure if Trump will change his support for Israel but he will likely temper it, as a businessman he is up for negotiations and that is far better than supplying more and more bombs without any actual real diplomacy..

Interestingly, if he wins the Presidency again he'll likely be negotiating the Palestine/Israel/Iran war with Russia (Putin) who is held in greater regard in that part of the world..

 

[Cces]

To the people who think Trump is the man to bring about positive change, is there any evidence of him previously doing this from 2017-19 when the Republican Party had control of both the House & the Senate?

 

[Worried2Death]

Do you think the world is safer for your daughter with a person in charge of the biggest military machine that has said he will stop the wars and doesn't have a history of propping up countries with "free" arms. OR a person who is currently part of the system involved in supporting those wars and who will most likely continue to do so and it's more beholden to the companies that want them to continue?

Yeah hard to say with Isarel, some call him Zion Don and I doubt he'd cross Bibi, they're both crooks. He might nuke Iran as he's threatened. Ukraine he might force to give up the eastern gas fields for a cut from Putin or forgiving his personal debts, that would be in everyone's best interests. Who knows what'll happen with Taiwan. It's a dirty world isn't it.

 

[Tragic]

To the people who think Trump is the man to bring about positive change, is there any evidence of him previously doing this from 2017-19 when the Republican Party had control of both the House & the Senate?

Opinion | A Fact-Checked List of Trump Accomplishments (Published 2020)

It’s been circulating on social media for months. Here’s what I found when I looked into these claims.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Possum11]

Trump 2024

 

[Worried2Death]

#Turnip24 #Awooo