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This New Zealand politics forum discussion reveals significant polarization as the 2023 election approaches, with Labour facing severe challenges amid economic concerns and National struggling with credibility issues. Wizard of Tauranga #101 highlights concerning statistics from Stephen Jennings, noting that benefit dependency has increased dramatically from 2% in 1970 to 11% of the population, with over 57,000 more people on Jobseeker benefits than in 2018 despite widespread labor shortages. Recent economic data reveals deteriorating fiscal conditions, with the government's budget deficit reaching $10 billion—$3 billion deeper than anticipated, representing a $2,000 loss for every New Zealander.

Recent polling shows dramatic shifts in voter sentiment, with miket12 #238 sharing latest Newshub Reid Research results indicating potential major electoral changes. The polling methodology debate emerged when John Nick #243 questioned who actually gets polled, noting that no forum members had ever been contacted for political polling. Wizard of Tauranga #241 expressed skepticism about polling accuracy, suggesting results defied community sentiment and questioning methodology.

Leadership performance under scrutiny emerged as a major theme, particularly regarding National leader Christopher Luxon's media appearances. Noitall #201 and juju #202 commented on Luxon's difficult interview with Jack Tame, describing his discomfort when challenged and predicting debates would be "fascinating." PullingTeets #203 called Luxon's performance "an absolute train wreck," while Wizard of Tauranga #209 criticized Tame's interview format despite acknowledging the value of tough questioning.

Housing and economic policy discussions dominated recent exchanges, with juju #290 advocating for policies that make "mega landlords & mum and pop landlords hoarding existing house stock unprofitable" while incentivizing innovative new builds. Wizard of Tauranga #289 argued for making business more profitable and easier than property investment, emphasizing that housing supply remains crucial for addressing homelessness and rent increases. The discussion revealed fundamental disagreements about whether current government policies help or hinder housing affordability, with juju #287 criticizing the "national obsession with property investment" as detrimental to the country.

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Blind echo chamber ignorance. National are economically illiterate. Their actions have brought us to where we are right now.
The books were open for them to cast their eyes over so it seems like economic mismanagement if they were that bad to pass a tax cut on that did absolutely nothing for the average NZer and add to the debt that they were concerned about. Also homelessness skyrocketing. National brought in the emergency housing concept and labour weren’t able to do much to alter the issue, though covid gobbled up a lot of money, but it would be good to see some bipartisanship on such social issues
 
Out of interest, what grinds your gears re investment that leads to a stronger economy?
Not my strong suit tbh, but moving away from housing as the national ponzi scheme is a good start. Moving towards a decent knowledge economy, growing the health and mental health sectors, renewables on the energy side, grow the financial sector, target infrastructure growth etc. Off the top of my head
 
Not my strong suit tbh, but moving away from housing as the national ponzi scheme is a good start. Moving towards a decent knowledge economy, growing the health and mental health sectors, renewables on the energy side, grow the financial sector, target infrastructure growth etc. Off the top of my head
Don’t disagree with any of that although I see a major difference between primary house ownership & investing in houses where capital gain is the only rational justification (and my view is history won’t repeat anywhere near the levels of the past).
 

National, tough on crime aye.

With the peadophile elite now running this country and protecting their own its no surprise there are so many supporters on this site
Judge Tini Clark said that, with the benefit of hindsight, it was probably an unwise decision by the friend to accept the challenge.

Judge Clark sentenced Varu to six months’ community detention and 12 months’ intensive supervision.

So you are getting your panties twisted over what is basically a consenting fight between adults?
 
Judge Tini Clark said that, with the benefit of hindsight, it was probably an unwise decision by the friend to accept the challenge.

Judge Clark sentenced Varu to six months’ community detention and 12 months’ intensive supervision.

So you are getting your panties twisted over what is basically a consenting fight between adults?
My understanding is the Greens pulled some strings to keep him out of prison so he is eligible to vote at the next election. However because the free feed incentive is gone they’re uncertain if he’ll bother turning up on the day.
 
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