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[MaybeTop8]

@MaybeTop8 - sorry if it seems like I attack you (certainly don’t intend to). I appreciate your constructive angle on things

Thanks d bomb it was slightly tongue in cheek but keen to get more context and thought about some of this stuff without circular dead endd. My regulars are certainly not my echo chamber. It's good to understand others in a relative way, and there's certainly some distance here

 

[MaybeTop8]

To be honest, I haven’t looked into Act’s bill. Seymour and his cronies don’t represent me and if the bill died, I wouldn’t shed a tear. I’m not a fan of his, though I am sometimes a fan of what he says

I appreciate that he is (apparently) removing some of the bureaucracy in principle, but i haven’t read any of his bill.

Is NZ being sold off? That’s something that should probably be outright demonstrated, for me to think about and have an opinion of. There is probably a range of ownership models that are appropriate for each asset

Unfortunately national will support the bill as part of the coalition agreement.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Seymour going rogue? Both coalition partners have expressed their dismay

Meh… been hearing this for the past 18 months and they get along. Obviously more autonomy than other coalitions but they make it work.

I do think 6 months from the election it will be all on and they will all identify issues to differentiate themselves and manufacture bust ups (WWF style).

But image Labour, Greens and Māori Party. Dysfunction already without the added responsibility of leadership.

 

[Noitall]

Meh… been hearing this for the past 18 months and they get along. Obviously more autonomy than other coalitions but they make it work.

I do think 6 months from the election it will be all on and they will all identify issues to differentiate themselves and manufacture bust ups (WWF style).

But image Labour, Greens and Māori Party. Dysfunction already without the added responsibility of leadership.

Luxon tells off Seymour over letter to United Nations

"I've just made it clear that I expect Winston Peters to be the person that engages with the UN," the prime minister said.

www.1news.co.nz

Got told off and looked like a little schoolboy when explaining himself. Will be interesting to watch, I think his ego will get the better of him

 

[Worried2Death]

Meh… been hearing this for the past 18 months and they get along. Obviously more autonomy than other coalitions but they make it work.

I do think 6 months from the election it will be all on and they will all identify issues to differentiate themselves and manufacture bust ups (WWF style).

But image Labour, Greens and Māori Party. Dysfunction already without the added responsibility of leadership.

The flakey far right is what's letting us down, Pompey's fine on the left, not too woke, but rarely does anything embarrassing. Let's just get Hiku back and go back to first past the post?

 

[Bay39er]

What I’ve noticed is our friend @wizard of Tauranga whenever he “whitewashes” any “issue” arising in the Government (post 18023 above an example) can’t help himself but reference a potential future coalition government as being worse.

I guess he has learnt from Luxon who 18 months after having control still blames the previous Govt for everything negative that occurs.

 

[John Nick]

What I’ve noticed is our friend @wizard of Tauranga whenever he “whitewashes” any “issue” arising in the Government (post 18023 above an example) can’t help himself but reference a potential future coalition government as being worse.

I guess he has learnt from Luxon who 18 months after having control still blames the previous Govt for everything negative that occurs.

Hipkins was right when he said that Seymour and Peters would run rings around Luxon.
Coming to fruition now

 

[marv.]

Weird men are driving people out of politics

Their smear campaigns are ham-fisted and grotesque. They’re also working.

thespinoff.co.nz

she’s a worse human than any other single person in that building,
make no mistake about that.
ray chung is a fucking mong though.

good thing she pulled this from 2023 out now just before elections tbough.

andrew little will piss it in.

 

[Worried2Death]

she’s a worse human than any other single person in that building,
make no mistake about that.
ray chung is a fucking mong though.

good thing she pulled this from 2023 out now just before elections tbough.

andrew little will piss it in.

What's your assessment of Andrew, any sucking or monging in his past?

 

[John Nick]

What's your assessment of Andrew, any sucking or monging in his past?

What is it about Local body elections
Wellington have done nothing but complain about her since she was elected.
Here in Tauranga it's even worse
Now we have gotten rid of the commissioners we are stuck with Mahe.
Why would everyone want him??
I can see history repeating itself

 

[marv.]

What's your assessment of Andrew, any sucking or monging in his past?

his twin sisters wife is one of those mongs that keep gluing themselves to the motorway in the name of only MT8 and co knows who, but i think he’s probably the perfect mayor for wellington.

he’s kind, he’s considered, he compassionate. he’s business minded. he seems to have a pretty good long term view of what the city needs.

hint; (it’s more than bike lanes over crumbling infrastructure and a paved wind tunnel that will do nothing but bankrupt the CBD) but as long as it has your name on it

our current mayor is the worst in memory. so anything except maybe ray chung is good, but i think in all honesty andrew little is a perfect fit.

 

[Rick O’Shay]

What I’ve noticed is our friend @wizard of Tauranga whenever he “whitewashes” any “issue” arising in the Government (post 18023 above an example) can’t help himself but reference a potential future coalition government as being worse.

I guess he has learnt from Luxon who 18 months after having control still blames the previous Govt for everything negative that occurs.

That being the case, what's your thoughts on an opposition coalition getting into power based on their policies and rhetoric so far in 2025? Early days I know but better to get in early don't you think?

 

[Rick O’Shay]

What is it about Local body elections
Wellington have done nothing but complain about her since she was elected.
Here in Tauranga it's even worse
Now we have gotten rid of the commissioners we are stuck with Mahe.
Why would everyone want him??
I can see history repeating itself

We dodged one down here in the land of the free by not voting Irish Debbie onto council in the last two elections. Is she an elected Member of parliament or another list grifter. Couldn't make the grade in an election here and they were STV

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

I guess he has learnt from Luxon who 18 months after having control still blames the previous Govt for everything negative that occurs.

And Luxon learnt from Labour

Andrew Little in 2022, 5 years after being in govt: “We inherited a health system that had been run down and neglected for years by National. We’re now doing the work to rebuild “it and ensure it’s fit for purpose.”

Radware Page

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www.parliament.nz

For what it worth, it’s politics 101 to blame the last lot and all sides do it.

 

[Worried2Death]

We dodged one down here in the land of the free by not voting Irish Debbie onto council in the last two elections. Is she an elected Member of parliament or another list grifter. Couldn't make the grade in an election here and they were STV

Where did you say you are again Rick, County Cork?

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Where did you say you are again Rick, County Cork?

Funnily enough the family seat is a wee place called Portumna in Country Galway. Not sure where Irish Deb is from.
Perhaps Tirau?

 

[Bay39er]

That being the case, what's your thoughts on an opposition coalition getting into power based on their policies and rhetoric so far in 2025? Early days I know but better to get in early don't you think?

Frankly @Rick O’Shay i’m too old to worry about it.

If it is accepted that the current 3 headed dog is working together ok then I see no reason why a different dog can’t do so as well!

I’m the type who accepts whatever the majority determine each three years and then watches from the sidelines while tossing a few hand grenades into forums such as this to see how the shrapnel falls.

Having said all that I’m more inclined to the liberal side than the conservative side of the political pendulum

 

[Bay39er]

And Luxon learnt from Labour

For what it worth, it’s politics 101 to blame the last lot and all sides do it.

And Labour learnt from National and….

It may be P101 but that’s why folk get turned off rather than engaged in democracy

It’s time to stop

 

[Worried2Death]

And Labour learnt from National and….

It may be P101 but that’s why folk get turned off rather than engaged in democracy

It’s time to stop

How do we stop?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Auckland council CEO salary: $648k
Tauranga council CEO salary: $606k

Luxons Salary: $471k

Is this the reason our rates are astronomical?

(Trumps salary: US$400k)