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The thread centers on New Zealand's upcoming election, primarily debating the economic management and policy differences between the center-left Labour government and center-right National/ACT opposition. Key criticisms target Labour's fiscal stewardship, citing ballooning government expenditure #7#272, housing unaffordability, and unfulfilled promises like KiwiBuild and dental care expansion #16#12. A user #7 highlighted Labour's annual 9% spending growth versus 1.5% under previous governments, arguing this fueled inflation. National's tax-cut policy faced scrutiny over funding gaps and legality, with user #215 questioning Luxon's reliance on "trust me" assurances.
Leadership competence emerged as a critical theme, particularly in later posts. Luxon drew heavy criticism after a contentious interview where he struggled to defend policy details #194#199#211, while Willis faced backlash for her economic credentials. Hipkins garnered fleeting praise for articulation but was ultimately seen as representing poor governmental outcomes #45#119. A trusted user #308 presented expert economic analysis contradicting Treasury optimism. Infrastructure issues—like Wellington's water crisis and the dental school staffing shortage—were cited as examples of systemic mismanagement #235#12. Notable policy debates included road-user charges for EVs #220, immigration impacts on rents #299, and coalition scenarios involving NZ First #182#258. Early fringe discussions on candidates' rugby allegiances gave way to substantive policy critiques, culminating in grim Treasury forecasts discussed in posts #271#304#308. User #168 also revealed concerns about Labour rushing regulatory changes to entrench policies pre-election.

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Economic Policies, Housing Crisis, Leadership Competence

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Seymour is corrupt. Privatisation and wealth extraction is his mission

ā€˜Instead of targeting not-for-profits, Seymour now leaned on the new Early Childhood Education Equity Index to identify which schools would most benefit from free food.’

This is as it should be. Children in need in low decile (old terminology) centres regardless of who owns it before rich kids in rich areas in ā€˜non profit’ centres.

Needs and outcomes for hungry kids is heaps more important than who owns the service isn’t it?

Or rich kids in not for profits are more deserving than poor kids getting free fees in private centres?

P.s. You do realise half the ā€˜non profit’ centres are a front for private property empires… eg the biggest provider in NZ (Best Start).
 
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ā€˜Instead of targeting not-for-profits, Seymour now leaned on the new Early Childhood Education Equity Index to identify which schools would most benefit from free food.’

This is as it should be. Children in need in low decile (old terminology) centres regardless of they go before rich kids in rich areas in ā€˜non profit’ centres.

Needs and outcomes for hungry kids is heaps more important than who owns the service isn’t it?

Or rich kids in for profits are more deserving than poor kids getting free fees in private centres?

P.s. You do realise half the ā€˜non profit’ centres are a front for private property empires… eg the biggest provider in NZ (Best Start).
You'll find an excuse for anything to contort it into your ideological prison.
 
But what if you're in an ideological prison and you don't know it? Top8's winning today, pass the soap willya, it's by your feet.
Top8 is just posting opinions from similarly ideologically aligned people. Those opinions aren’t necessarily all wrong, nor are they necessarily all right & I think you’ll find they do very little to sway the opinions of everyone else (the majority of New Zealanders).
 
Top8 is just posting opinions from similarly ideologically aligned people. Those opinions aren’t necessarily all wrong, nor are they necessarily all right & I think you’ll find they do very little to sway the opinions of everyone else (the majority of New Zealanders).
His polemic is good for balance though, particularly those points he raises that aren't necessarily all wrong.
 
His polemic is good for balance though, particularly those points he raises that aren't necessarily all wrong.
Any issue can be argued in about 5 different ways, all with a logical argument from a different philosophy and perspective..

That’s the problem with politics. Everyone can be right from their point of view so we talk across each other.

And the best part is therefore that no one can ever be wrong!


It actually fascinates me that we can all have completely different experiences of life from our unique life circumstances. Our worldview can be shaped by completely different cultural, socio-economic, etc experiences.
 
Any issue can be argued in about 5 different ways, all with a logical argument from a different philosophy and perspective..

That’s the problem with politics. Everyone can be right from their point of view so we talk across each other.

And the best part is therefore that no one can ever be wrong!


It actually fascinates me that we can all have completely different experiences of life from our unique life circumstances. Our worldview can be shaped by completely different cultural, socio-economic, etc experiences.
"You know I'm something of a psychologist myself, the human mind, ehh?" Richard Briers, Ever Decreasing Circles
 
One of Dame Jacinda Ardern’s favourite Auckland cafes has permanently closed its doors, citing spiralling costs and excessive rent as the reasons for its demise. KIND Cafe & Eatery’s name was inspired by Ardern.

Wow… seems like kindness starts from the basic economic fundamentals.

 
One of Dame Jacinda Ardern’s favourite Auckland cafes has permanently closed its doors, citing spiralling costs and excessive rent as the reasons for its demise. KIND Cafe & Eatery’s name was inspired by Ardern.

Wow… seems like kindness starts from the basic economic fundamentals.

Not the smartest name for a cafe.
 
Is there anyone who isn't just feeding their confirmation bias? Freethinking rationalist libertarians perhaps? Doubt it, sounds like a cult.
I was just pondering that myself. I doubt it, I reckon we (as in the entire human race) would all be guilty of it to varying degrees. It’s a big issue in my job, massive problem if you can’t be objective with new information… but almost impossible not to put more weight on what supports your existing beliefs.
 
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