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marv. said:
fair.
however rape and child molestation jokes are pretty grim at the best of times let alone from an MP.
i think it’ll end up more damage than it’s worth to keep them on and i think swarbrick really needs to stop gaslighting RE: the term. it’s a boy/man asshole but for sex. she’s well aware of that, and she needs to stop side stepping the question of the meaning and going back to death threats.
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by her explaining away “oh that’s just the LBQT group, they have am irreverent sense of humour” she is actually minimising child sexualisation

Not something I would think she’d try to minimise or defend, and i think it reflects more poorly on her than him

I had no idea he even existed until the story broke, so no great loss I would have thought
 
Gotta say, I never knew what a Bussy was so you learn something everyday. Although my Millenium grandkids didn't know either so I guess we all don't keep up with the play.
The facts are this guy has these images posted on the web and with the comments is enough to GTFO as an MP who is supposedly representing the people of NZ.
As a white Cis Boomer male, I find it extremely offensive and IMO there are no if's, but's, nor that's not what i was portraying.
We have enough trouble in this country with child abuse and harm, he should be investigated and turfed out of parliament quick smart.
Interesting to note, the MSM have been reasonably quiet on this, imagine if it was a list MP from the Coalition or choke, sob, someone like Andrew Bayley
 
Boston Boy said:
Nope. There's no pedo symbolism, neither is their language of "bussy GALORE" which is a reference to male anus used as a vagina and highly sexualised allusions.
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How old are your gay mates you referred to in a previous post that are disgusted with this stuff? Are they old enough to remember when homosexuals were vilified when aids was rampant? Once it was discovered that they weren’t solely responsible and there were many more factors, the hatefulness really had no platform to continue with the view and they’ve enjoyed some rights to the point where a civil union marriage became accepted. Not sure if you’re old enough to remember, but it feels like the same old playbook that’s accusing pedophilia
 
Rick O’Shay said:
Gotta say, I never knew what a Bussy was so you learn something everyday. Although my Millenium grandkids didn't know either so I guess we all don't keep up with the play.
The facts are this guy has these images posted on the web and with the comments is enough to GTFO as an MP who is supposedly representing the people of NZ.
As a white Cis Boomer male, I find it extremely offensive and IMO there are no if's, but's, nor that's not what i was portraying.
We have enough trouble in this country with child abuse and harm, he should be investigated and turfed out of parliament quick smart.
Interesting to note, the MSM have been reasonably quiet on this, imagine if it was a list MP from the Coalition or choke, sob, someone like Andrew Bayley
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Yeah, I think the language is fairly nuanced to certain communities. Not so much an age thing. Bro, I don't care whether people are white, black, yellow, purple, bent or curved. We are all valuable and have something to contribute regardless.
 
Noitall said:
but it feels like the same old playbook that’s accusing pedophilia
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Accusing pedophilia??? I think pedophilia is evil mate. It messes people up and has the potential to mess people up for their whole lives. I hope pedophiles get help, and rehabilitate which is very difficult from my experience (dealing with those who have exploited children) but what do you want me to do?? I am more concerned with victims than perpetrators of sexual crimes on children as children are vulnerable and need protecting. Do you want me to apologise for speaking bad against pedophilia? or Not to offend them? Not to blame them for wanting to have sex with children? Where is this going? Is this a serious discussion?
 
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Boston Boy said:
Accusing pedophilia??? I think pedophilia is evil mate. It messes people up and has the potential to mess people up for their whole lives. I hope pedophiles get help, and rehabilitate which is very difficult from my experience (dealing with those who have exploited children) but what do you want me to do?? I am more concerned with victims than perpetrators of sexual crimes on children as children are vulnerable and need protecting. Do you want me to apologise for speaking bad against pedophilia? or Not to offend them? Not to blame them for wanting to have sex with children? Where is this going? Is this a serious discussion?
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Fucked if I know what you’re on about now? Are you accusing the guy of pedophilia over some pictures and poorly worded captions or not? Aussie McLean, who was a politician in the 80s has been proven to be a child abuser and a potential political pedophile ring in those times. As someone who’s more concerned about the victims than the perpetrators, do you think that needs investigating?
 
MaybeTop8 said:
There is a brutal culture war going on right now around the western world being waged against anyone different, anyone remotely left, anyone who doesn't fit in with a narrow bigoted conservative view, an utterly regressive view.

This current scandal surfaced in the channels of the far right in New Zealand. It's no coincidence Winston has gotten behind this as well.

This is who the Free Speech Union brought out here to speak two weeks ago.

thespinoff.co.nz

Peters’ attack on Doyle is vile – and the Greens should have seen it coming

There is no excusing the deputy prime minister's unfounded attacks on Benjamin Doyle, but the Green Party should have done more to protect its newest MP.
thespinoff.co.nz

www.splcenter.org

James Lindsay

James Lindsay has quickly become a leading voice in the reactionary anti-student inclusion, anti-LGBTQ, and conspiracy propaganda movements.
www.splcenter.org

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Are you seriously saying that paedophilia is ideologically left and any attacks on it is politically motivated?!?

That’s a step too fucking far.
 
Noitall said:
How old are your gay mates you referred to in a previous post that are disgusted with this stuff? Are they old enough to remember when homosexuals were vilified when aids was rampant? Once it was discovered that they weren’t solely responsible and there were many more factors, the hatefulness really had no platform to continue with the view and they’ve enjoyed some rights to the point where a civil union marriage became accepted. Not sure if you’re old enough to remember, but it feels like the same old playbook that’s accusing pedophilia
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Jesus fucking Christ. Another semi defence of paedophiles.
 
Noitall said:
Fucked if I know what you’re on about now? Are you accusing the guy of pedophilia over some pictures and poorly worded captions or not? Aussie McLean, who was a politician in the 80s has been proven to be a child abuser and a potential political pedophile ring in those times. As someone who’s more concerned about the victims than the perpetrators, do you think that needs investigating?
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I don't know what you are going on about. This greens weirdo needs to go and be investigated. There's no confirmation that he is a pedo, but his views and language is definitely inappropriate to have in such a position as an mp. That's the point. Anyone substantively associated with pedophilia should be investigated, whether it's my relatives or prince Charles. We can't normalise weird and sexually suggestive behaviour around kids.
 
MrFrankWhite said:
Jesus fucking Christ. Another semi defence of paedophiles.
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I’ve been the one on here saying there needs to be an inquiry into the allegations of a pedophile ring, what the fuck are you on? If you’re hanging the guy over the pictures, why is the post of trump trying to kiss a kid on the lips he’s never met also creepy?
 
Noitall said:
I’ve been the one on here saying there needs to be an inquiry into the allegations of a pedophile ring, what the fuck are you on? If you’re hanging the guy over the pictures, why is the post of trump trying to kiss a kid on the lips he’s never met also creepy?
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That’s also creepy as fuck. There no excuse for it at all and trying to equate it to persecution of homosexuals is perverse and exactly what the enablers of it are trying to do.
 
Worried2Death said:
Did he label that specific picture "Bussy galore", or is that the name of a folder? I can't think of any context where this is ok.
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"Bussy Galore" and the "Pedo boy" love Symbol were his (Ben Doyles) additions. People in the know of that culture are horrified. Greens trying to minimise and save face by blaming Winston. Same spirit of some around here....
 
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