Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[FormerlyJamesW]

No, disinformation has been a long term campaign of the right and malicious actors like putin for a long time now

A tad disengenous, seeing as it's clearly utilised by parties of all political ideologies...

 

[Worried2Death]

A tad disengenous, seeing as it's clearly utilised by parties of all political ideologies...

Russians are probably the best at it though, they make the CIA look like amateurs

 

[Worried2Death]

Ahh yes, because individualism is at the heart of socialism and communism now isnt it.

Independent communist, heard it all now.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Russians are probably the best at it though, they make the CIA look like amateurs

Ahh yes Westerners famously immune to believing propaganda

 

[FormerlyJamesW]

Russians are probably the best at it though, they make the CIA look like amateurs

I dunno, the Pentagon Papers were pretty good, imo...

 

[Worried2Death]

No, disinformation has been a long term campaign of the right and malicious actors like putin for a long time now

I agree that it has, but I'm not sure traditional left/right paradigms apply any more in the post-truth new order. Where would you place Putin on the scale, far-far right? I don't think he's even that, more like a mafia boss throwing his enemies out the Overton window.

 

[Worried2Death]

to big a topic to broach here but I would sum it up as a kiwi number 8 wire practically mentality based on common sense and a can do attitude.

It’s deteriorated with nanny state; overdone H&S; can’t discipline kids, unattainable best safety practice standards; etc. We’ve choked ourselves into one of the most expensive places in the world to live and nothing gets done at the pace or quantity we need. More and more are dissatisfied with how middle NZ can’t get ahead (hence your neoliberalism bent) and giving up on traditional organised society which isn’t working for them..

Don't worry, I've been using some number 8 to rig up a missile defence system in my shed, she'll be right mate

 

[FormerlyJamesW]

Don't worry, I've been using some number 8 to rig up a missile dence system in my shed, she'll be right mate

You're doing much better than me. Last time I tried to used number 8 wire, I lost a finger.

 

[MaybeTop8]

I agree that it has, but I'm not sure traditional left/right paradigms apply any more in the post-truth new order. Where would you place Putin on the scale, far-far right? I don't think he's even that, more like a mafia boss throwing his enemies out the Overton window.

100% authoritarian oligarchy

 

[Worried2Death]

100% authoritarian oligarchy

Authoritarians can be left or right though, Stalin was a brutal dictator who used a mockery of communism to dictate, so was he hard left or just a psychotic criminal? Where would you place Putin, left or right?

 

[miket12]

Authoritarians can be left or right though, Stalin was a brutal dictator who used a mockery of communism to dictate, so was he hard left or just a psychotic criminal? Where would you place Putin, left or right?

Where would I place Putin? in a gulag.

 

[Worried2Death]

Where would I place Putin? in a gulag.

Are you near a window

 

[miket12]

Are you near a window

No, out on a balcony…. what could possibly go wrong?

 

[Inruin]

No, out on a balcony…. what could possibly go wrong?

Gees mate, we know what happened just going for a simple walk....

 

[miket12]

Gees mate, we know what happened just going for a simple walk....

It’s not the falling that hurts…..it’s the sudden deceleration that hurts.

 

[Worried2Death]

It’s not the falling that hurts…..it’s the sudden deceleration that hurts.

And the concrete

 

[Bay39er]

30,000 rats, pfft I've seen more than that at Addington stadium

Here’s a sample for you

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Here’s a sample for you

Pets?

 

[MaybeTop8]

Utterly corrupt - turns out there's a hidden multi million dollar bonus - https://businessdesk.co.nz/article/...contract?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

What does David Seymour have against kids?

The government's child poverty targets are failing while Seymour proposes to expand a failing Compass School Lunch programme.

mountaintui.substack.com

 

[John Nick]

Utterly corrupt - turns out there's a hidden multi million dollar bonus - https://businessdesk.co.nz/article/...contract?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

What does David Seymour have against kids?

The government's child poverty targets are failing while Seymour proposes to expand a failing Compass School Lunch programme.

mountaintui.substack.com

If this turns out to be true Seymour should be gone.