Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[John Nick]

no, I'm very aware of that, but the data, particularly for ED wait time shows that we were coping until around 2018 where it shows a drop off increasing over the next years until now.

its fairly pointless throwing conspiracy theories and name calling out when the history is there to see. We have seen a slight upward tick in ED waiting times in the last couple of reads so maybe we actually wait and see if that's just an anomaly or something is changing over a longer period of time

The NZ health system has been shit since the 60s 70's.
Hasn't improved recently and arguably got worse and that's without global pandemics and national tragedies
Putting the blame on the previous government is flawed to say the least.
Political speech by the PM saying Reti is a good health minister and is a good friend but good bye
Are you missing anything

 

[MaybeTop8]

Facts win out over far right culture war:

UK’s 20mph speed limits ‘are cutting car insurance costs’

Controversial safety policy has helped drive down premiums to 18-month low, says Confused.com

www.theguardian.com

 

[MaybeTop8]

The hit job from the nz toxic far right in the form of Leo Molloy

Ghahraman’s $150 shopping incident: Pak’nSave never complained so how did cops find out?

Police wanted Golriz Ghahraman's new alleged shoplifting claim in her High Court appeal.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[Inruin]

The hit job from the nz toxic far right in the form of Leo Molloy

Ghahraman’s $150 shopping incident: Pak’nSave never complained so how did cops find out?

Police wanted Golriz Ghahraman's new alleged shoplifting claim in her High Court appeal.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Hit job? Are you ok? You do know she has been convicted of several instances of shop lifting? Right? Sorry, I meant correct?

 

[MaybeTop8]

Hit job? Are you ok? You do know she has been convicted of several instances of shop lifting? Right? Sorry, I meant correct?

Yes.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Facts win out over far right culture war:

UK’s 20mph speed limits ‘are cutting car insurance costs’

Controversial safety policy has helped drive down premiums to 18-month low, says Confused.com

www.theguardian.com

Fact: Reduce the speed limit to zero and we will have no accidents.

It doesn’t mean it’s better or preferable…

 

[MaybeTop8]

Small reminder about neoliberalism and the agenda this government is following:

From Noam Chomsky in 2011

The State-Corporate Complex: A Threat to Freedom and Survival

The Noam Chomsky Website.

chomsky.info

 

[Inruin]

Small reminder about neoliberalism and the agenda this government is following:

From Noam Chomsky in 2011
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The State-Corporate Complex: A Threat to Freedom and Survival

The Noam Chomsky Website.

chomsky.info

In your opinion.

 

[Worried2Death]

Fact: Reduce the speed limit to zero and we will have no accidents.

It doesn’t mean it’s better or preferable…

Lower premiums are good for everyone though, £995 a year for comprehensive cover is a lot more than we're paying in NZ

 

[Inruin]

Lower premiums are good for everyone though, £995 a year for comprehensive cover is a lot more than we're paying in NZ

A small drop after premiums had risen rapidly, some had doubled. And getting better premiums when switching companies. Sounds like competition for customers is a high driver of getting lower premiums.

 

[MaybeTop8]

In your opinion.

Nope. Fact.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Facts win out over far right culture war:

UK’s 20mph speed limits ‘are cutting car insurance costs’

Controversial safety policy has helped drive down premiums to 18-month low, says Confused.com

www.theguardian.com

"facts" yes crashing at 20mph causes less damage than crashing at 30mph. Did you just work this out? Ergo the smartest thing to do would be to make the speed limit 1mph right? right?!?

 

[MrFrankWhite]

haha and its not even 100% thanks to reduced speed

some of this fall has been attributed to renewed competition between insurers and improvements to safety features in vehicles

 

[MaybeTop8]

"facts" yes crashing at 20mph causes less damage than crashing at 30mph. Did you just work this out? Ergo the smartest thing to do would be to make the speed limit 1mph right? right?!?

I've said that many times before Frank - it's your mates on here who have argued against that in the past.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

I've said that many times before Frank - it's your mates on here who have argued against that in the past.

Not that point they havent, or I would have called them an idiot. Insurance data is a aggregated. Theres no evidence the number of crashes has decreased, simply the payout $$.

 

[Inruin]

Nope. Fact.

Nope. It's your opinion. The fact you can't see the difference says it all really.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Nope. It's your opinion. The fact you can't see the difference says it all really.

In your opinion.

 

[Inruin]

In your opinion.

Yes, in my opinion it says a lot. It is fact that you haven't been able to differentiate between what you are trying to claim as fact and your opinion. Your posts just previously are evidence of that fact.

 

[Worried2Death]

Yes, in my opinion it says a lot. It is fact that you haven't been able to differentiate between what you are trying to claim as fact and your opinion. Your posts just previously are evidence of that fact.

Aren't facts just the generally agreed opinion?

 

[Worried2Death]

Hey @marv. are facts just the agreed reality