Current Affairs ⚔️ Ukraine - Russia War

[watcher]

I doubt Russia will accept anything but unconditional surrender from here.

Certainly they will be tough in negotiations. I am sure they will not accept preconditions to the negotiations. They will be keeping the Donbass and other contested areas they also know that they will be neighbours to the Ukraine and will want to remove any future threat either Ukraine becimes neutral or more likely a domilitarised zone.

 

[hornbybrown]

Certainly they will be tough in negotiations. I am sure they will not accept preconditions to the negotiations. They will be keeping the Donbass and other contested areas they also know that they will be neighbours to the Ukraine and will want to remove any future threat either Ukraine becimes neutral or more likely a domilitarised zone.

I think they accept a guarantee that Ukraine never enters NATO, which is a big part of why this kicked off.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

I think they accept a guarantee that Ukraine never enters NATO, which is a big part of why this kicked off.

guarantees mean nothing to Russia anymore I would suspect. Theres bean multiple deals guaranteed by both Germany and Frnace and US / Ukraine / Uk just ignore it.

 

[watcher]

guarantees mean nothing to Russia anymore I would suspect. Theres bean multiple deals guaranteed by both Germany and Frnace and US / Ukraine / Uk just ignore it.

Lloyd Austen said it publicly. They can agree to neutrality, build up and go again in a few years.

 

[Hardyman's Yugo]

guarantees mean nothing to Russia anymore I would suspect.

Really? Remind me again who invaded another country after denying they were going to do it

What Putin says and what he does are two different things

 

[Brightman]

Really? Remind me again who invaded another country after denying they were going to do it

What Putin says and what he does are two different things

I'd say Putin is living up to his word by Russia de-militarizing Ukraine, de-nazification of Ukraine, liberating ethnic Russians in Luhansk and Donbass etc.
There will be a new elected leader of Ukraine and Russia will giving the final approval.
Ukraine will never be allowed to join NATO.

Russia, will "guarantee" this by having a stronger military than the UK, US and the EU..

 

[Hardyman's Yugo]

I'd say Putin is living up to his word by Russia de-militarizing Ukraine, de-nazification of Ukraine, liberating ethnic Russians in Luhansk and Donbass etc.
There will be a new elected leader of Ukraine and Russia will giving the final approval.
Ukraine will never be allowed to join NATO.

Russia, will "guarantee" this by having a stronger military than the UK, US and the EU..

Russia have spent over 1000 days trying to do what they claimed would take less than a week, lost 1000’s of men and large quantities of hardware, two neutral countries have joined NATO and the Russian economy is tanking.

Are they f*^k stronger militarily than America. They are relying on being strengthened by two rogue states, drones from Iran and troops from North Korea

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Really? Remind me again who invaded another country after denying they were going to do it

What Putin says and what he does are two different things

You frequently watch Putins translated speeches? Can you give me a link to the ones he’s contradicts himself

 

[Hardyman's Yugo]

You frequently watch Putins translated speeches? Can you give me a link to the ones he’s contradicts himself

When Russian forces began gathering on the Ukraine border in 2021 Putin denied Russia was planning to invade.

The consistency in what he says is the lying. The only countries who will negotiate with him seriously are the ones who are desperate, western democracy won’t . Trump might because he’s compromised and an idiot to boot

 

[Hardyman's Yugo]

View: https://x.com/Klitschko/status/1860797661701460226?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1860797661701460226%7Ctwgr%5E89606701e12514c59c2be9e8f45fb18b964bb683%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.readytogo.net%2Fsmb%2Fthreads%2Fklitschko-calls-out-rogans-russian-propaganda.1644850%2F

 

[MrFrankWhite]

When Russian forces began gathering on the Ukraine border in 2021 Putin denied Russia was planning to invade.

Link to Putins direct comments?

The consistency in what he says is the lying. The only countries who will negotiate with him seriously are the ones who are desperate, western democracy won’t . Trump might because he’s compromised and an idiot to boot

All you do is post your opinion on the dogshit you’ve been fed in whatever western news source you regurgitate from.

If you want to have an adult conversation, you need to form an opinion on the original source material and link it. Stop commenting on western retards comments.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Russia have spent over 1000 days trying to do what they claimed would take less than a week,

Link to Putin laying out the timeline?

 

[Brightman]

would take less than a week

Really!? What on earth leads you to think that is a realistic timeframe without going straight to the nuclear option?
Every conflict the mighty US and UK armies waged since WW2 have lasted many more years than Russia's SMO which, I believe, will end within 2025.

Please enlighten me..

 

[Brightman]

View: https://x.com/Klitschko/status/1860797661701460226?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1860797661701460226%7Ctwgr%5E89606701e12514c59c2be9e8f45fb18b964bb683%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.readytogo.net%2Fsmb%2Fthreads%2Fklitschko-calls-out-rogans-russian-propaganda.1644850%2F

Is this from an official social media propaganda account or a factual one..

PS. The US would love to make him the next leader of Ukraine but Russia will not accept this. Try again!

 

[Brightman]

The only countries who will negotiate with him seriously are the ones who are desperate, western democracy won’t .

Because western democracy would rather fight to the last Ukrainian in their words and not their people! Are the US going to officially out bolts on the ground once there are no Ukrainians left to form a defence? NO!!

 

[watcher]

Coming from a country that had Boris Johnson in charge it is a bit hypocritical to throw sgade at Putins lies. Does he lie, of course he does, name me a leader that doesnt. Will Trump stop the war, I hope so but from his first term he is unlikely to start a new one. As for the North Koreans, proof please. They are training in Russians in the east. Near the NK border. Hopefully this war can be stopped, Russias security concerns addressed andvUkraine can become a democracy again.

 

[Hardyman's Yugo]

Link to Putin laying out the timeline?

Go and do your own research, pretty much every western news source going reported it at the time. You’d only rubbish my news sources anyhow, BBC, The Guardian, Independent etc.

Your sounding more like a Putin mouthpiece with every post Ivan

 

[Worried2Death]

PS. The US would love to make him the next leader of Ukraine but Russia will not accept this. Try again!

Hulk Hogan?

 

[Hardyman's Yugo]

Is this from an official social media propaganda account or a factual one..

After some of the youtube nonsense you post, my irony meter has just gone off the scale.

Given he’s a well known Ukrainian citizen who is respected for his boxing and how he conducted himself, his opinion warrants a hearing.

 

[Worried2Death]

Hopefully this war can be stopped, Russias security concerns addressed andvUkraine can become a democracy again.

Was it a democracy or a CIA puppet government after 2014