General YOUR 2023 WARRIORS TEAM

[Since95]

If he is at centre who gets you out of your own end? Te Maire Martin had the luxury of Cobbo and Oates on the wings when he was playing fullback at the Broncos.
Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad is very good at chewing up the metres throughout a game

Depends........ defensively Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad at centre with Te Maire Martin at FB and Metcalf (based of a hunch)

I mean he could be Walsh level defence (willing but at times just a tad small or half a meter out of position)

He could even be Maloney like defensively if he brings points and scoring opportunities like maloney did and be ok.

Attacking wise Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad at centre Te Maire Martin at half and metcalf at FB. Or vice versa I just like Te Maire Martin's passing with more options as opposed to FB where you'd have with centre or wing if you dropped in from a back door behind lead runner

 

[Mr Brownstone]

In most cases there 13 warriors on the field when we conceded 700 points. No way you can blame one player for 200 of those points. If you want to point fingers Nathan Brown is your man. He didn't last the entire season but his stain stayed with us for the all of it.

I’ve mentioned it before however if we are going to start laying specific blame on defenders last year then I’ll start with the middles who couldn’t be fucked even getting back the 10 and turning around to face the attacking team. To blame a fullback for 200 points is beyond ridiculous.

 

[Worried2Death]

My calculations, which I have posted before also show that reece costed us 200 out of -700 points,

Sounds like Mullayo gets his stats from you Wrighty, I thought he was joking too but I stand corrected.

 

[wizards rage]

I’ve mentioned it before however if we are going to start laying specific blame on defenders last year then I’ll start with the middles who couldn’t be fucked even getting back the 10 and turning around to face the attacking team. To blame a fullback for 200 points is beyond ridiculous.

I heard last year at training our edges/ centres were staring at a picture of Swiss cheese and thought it was a picture of Morgan’s defensive structure.

Let’s just settle on the whole team defending woefully.

 

[Mullayo]

Didn't Walsh miss the

Agreed on both counts.
Walsh made his share of tackles and committed himself in defence. He missed his share too but he was willing. No better or worse than a lot of NRL full backs.

Te Maire Martin has always been decent enough without going to another level. Assuming he starts round 1, it would only take an injury for Volkman or Metcalf to step in, play well and hold the spot.

Reecey Spoon didn't make his share of tackles. He had 56 missed tackles last year. An appalling 37% of his 'attempts'.

He was a turnstile at the worst possible place you could put one, the last line of defence.

He has the most misses at fullback in the NRL. It's the position where you have to make the least amount of tackles. Te Maire Martin jokingly guesstimated he had to make 4 all year at the Broncos.

Charnze may only get a try or two, but that's all Walsh got as well. However, Charnze will save 10-15 and will not act like a spoiled brat doing it.

 

[Jay M]

Didn't Walsh miss the

Reecey Spoon didn't make his share of tackles. He had 56 missed tackles last year. An appalling 37% of his 'attempts'.

He was a turnstile at the worst possible place you could put one, the last line of defence.

He has the most misses at fullback in the NRL. It's the position where you have to make the least amount of tackles. Te Maire Martin jokingly guesstimated he had to make 4 all year at the Broncos.

Charnze may only get a try or two, but that's all Walsh got as well. However, Charnze will save 10-15 and will not act like a spoiled brat doing it.

Te Maire Martin averaged 1.53 missed tackles a game. Walsh averaged 2.55. That difference can probably be linked to the amount of work each did.

For comparison purposes:
Papenhuyzen 1.33
Tedesco 1.07
Dylan Edwards 0.73
Stephen Crighton 2.35 (but I assume most were at centre)
Kennedy 1.88
Ponga 1.07
Daine Laurie 2.68
Savage 0.73
Brimson 2.32
Averillo 1.05
Drinkwater 1.09
Gutherson 1.50
Garrick 1.38

Huge range in missed tackles per game by fullbacks. Walsh is one of the worst but to be honest, a lot could be due to the situations the warriors defensive line put him in.

Stats from zerotackle so might not be 100%. Ranked by missed tackles per game. can search by player or by team. Weirdly, the warriors team stats aren't awful compared to some of the others. Warriors had a lot of players who missed multiple tackles per game, but the panthers had more.

Most Missed Tackles | 2022 NRL Statistics

Who has the most missed tackles in NRL 2022?

www.zerotackle.com

 

[Mullayo]

I see Dallin Watene-Zelezniak has pulled out of the Maori game, citing a hamstring twang.

Dylan Walker as well. Don't know what's wrong with him other than he says "bra" instead of "bro" which could be a big deal in the Maori camp.

Does this make the upcoming trial a head to head for the vacant wingspot. I have the back 5 as:
--------------Charnze @FB--------------
Dallin Watene-Zelezniak@RW, Montoya@RC, ???@LC, Kosi@LW
-------Shaun Johnson-------Te Maire Martin--------

The right side is generally your defensive side (basically, because players prefer to pass left to right) and the left side more attacking. Or in our case less defending.
This is the case for the ascending talent of Vailea,

The case for Pompey is he's got 53 caps, and it's time to show something because he has all the size, strength, speed tools and now plenty of experience.
If not now, we'll pack him off to Uncle Payten to fix.

Looking forward to Thursday's trial. I like them much more than real games where we get gypped by half-ass players, coaches, and referees. When are they naming this team?

 

[john nick]

I see Dallin Watene-Zelezniak has pulled out of the Maori game, citing a hamstring twang.

Dylan Walker as well. Don't know what's wrong with him other than he says "bra" instead of "bro" which could be a big deal in the Maori camp.

Does this make the upcoming trial a head to head for the vacant wingspot. I have the back 5 as:
--------------Charnze @FB--------------
Dallin Watene-Zelezniak@RW, Montoya@RC, ???@LC, Kosi@LW
-------Shaun Johnson-------Te Maire Martin--------

The right side is generally your defensive side (basically, because players prefer to pass left to right) and the left side more attacking. Or in our case less defending.
This is the case for the ascending talent of Vailea,

The case for Pompey is he's got 53 caps, and it's time to show something because he has all the size, strength, speed tools and now plenty of experience.
If not now, we'll pack him off to Uncle Payten to fix.

Looking forward to Thursday's trial. I like them much more than real games where we get gypped by half-ass players, coaches, and referees. When are they naming this team?

Is Thursday trial on TV please

 

[wizards rage]

Te Maire Martin averaged 1.53 missed tackles a game. Walsh averaged 2.55. That difference can probably be linked to the amount of work each did.

For comparison purposes:
Papenhuyzen 1.33
Tedesco 1.07
Dylan Edwards 0.73
Stephen Crighton 2.35 (but I assume most were at centre)
Kennedy 1.88
Ponga 1.07
Daine Laurie 2.68
Savage 0.73
Brimson 2.32
Averillo 1.05
Drinkwater 1.09
Gutherson 1.50
Garrick 1.38

Huge range in missed tackles per game by fullbacks. Walsh is one of the worst but to be honest, a lot could be due to the situations the warriors defensive line put him in.

Stats from zerotackle so might not be 100%. Ranked by missed tackles per game. can search by player or by team. Weirdly, the warriors team stats aren't awful compared to some of the others. Warriors had a lot of players who missed multiple tackles per game, but the panthers had more.

Most Missed Tackles | 2022 NRL Statistics

Who has the most missed tackles in NRL 2022?

www.zerotackle.com

There were a LOT of tackles where he appeared to give up and didn’t even get a hand on the ball carrier as well. Those wouldn’t show on the missed tackle stats.

Add 38 errors and 11 penalties from Walsh last season as well when assessing the negative impact on the games.

That’s lots of pressure put on the rest of the team when possession literally decides results.

 

[Damo]

There were a LOT of tackles where he appeared to give up and didn’t even get a hand on the ball carrier as well. Those wouldn’t show on the missed tackle stats.

Add 38 errors and 11 penalties from Walsh last season as well when assessing the negative impact on the games.

That’s lots of pressure put on the rest of the team when possession literally decides results.

ESPECIALLY the unforced errors, those were painful.

 

[Mullayo]

Te Maire Martin averaged 1.53 missed tackles a game. Walsh averaged 2.55. That difference can probably be linked to the amount of work each did.

For comparison purposes:
Papenhuyzen 1.33
Tedesco 1.07
Dylan Edwards 0.73
Stephen Crighton 2.35 (but I assume most were at centre)
Kennedy 1.88
Ponga 1.07
Daine Laurie 2.68
Savage 0.73
Brimson 2.32
Averillo 1.05
Drinkwater 1.09
Gutherson 1.50
Garrick 1.38

Huge range in missed tackles per game by fullbacks. Walsh is one of the worst but to be honest, a lot could be due to the situations the warriors defensive line put him in.

Stats from zerotackle so might not be 100%. Ranked by missed tackles per game. can search by player or by team. Weirdly, the warriors team stats aren't awful compared to some of the others. Warriors had a lot of players who missed multiple tackles per game, but the panthers had more.

Most Missed Tackles | 2022 NRL Statistics

Who has the most missed tackles in NRL 2022?

www.zerotackle.com

Walsh was the worst IIRC. Noted midget Daine Laurie made 166 tackles while missing 51 so only missed 23% to Walsh's 37%.
Sure, it's situational and good teams have schemes to hide weak tacklers...Plus Uncle Fester was too busy kissing Aussie asses to bother coaching...
Also for Walsh it may have been a case of mind was willing, but the body was weak/young...

But the fact is, he was a pouting posing liability that we groomed and gave valuable game time that the Broncos (wisely) weren't willing to do. His chaos cost us close games. He may very well turn out a very good player, if he can get over himself and out of his own way,

Charnze will come in—and if his confidence has recovered from Sticky's mistreatment—be a safe-as-houses, powerful metre-eater that we need. A rock to build our D upon,
He also fits the Penrith blueprint, which we may be looking to recreate. I'm sure we'll see all the other options, especially as our schedule starts so hard and panic could set in. But we need to let cooler more experience heads prevail IMO.

 

[Mullayo]

ESPECIALLY the unforced errors, those were painful.

Those kicks out on the full felt like he fully booted you in the guts.

We lost a lot of close games that we shouldn't have, and they come down to a few errors... Such as letting Aussies ref their own competition...

 

[JaggedJ]

There were a LOT of tackles where he appeared to give up and didn’t even get a hand on the ball carrier as well. Those wouldn’t show on the missed tackle stats.

Add 38 errors and 11 penalties from Walsh last season as well when assessing the negative impact on the games.

That’s lots of pressure put on the rest of the team when possession literally decides results.

Walsh loved a good old "oh he just stepped, here's an arm, Tag! You're it!" style of tackle.

 

[Mullayo]

Walsh loved a good old "oh he just stepped, here's an arm, Tag! You're it!" style of tackle.

Then he'd throw a sulky, smouldering pout to the nearest camera. Always knew where they were.

 

[Mr Brownstone]

This forum loves a scapegoat. So Walsh 29 try causes (4 better than Gutho for what it’s worth), along with Dallin Watene-Zelezniak 22 try causes, Shaun Johnson 19 and Montoya 18. Based on the 200 points hit from Walsh that some of you believe, that extends to 600 points impact from our 4 worst try cause offenders - must mean that the rest of our team were Panthers quality on defence… what a load of shit.

 

[Jaffa J]

This forum loves a scapegoat. So Walsh 29 try causes (4 better than Gutho for what it’s worth), along with Dallin Watene-Zelezniak 22 try causes, Shaun Johnson 19 and Montoya 18. Based on the 200 points hit from Walsh that some of you believe, that extends to 600 points impact from our 4 worst try cause offenders - must mean that the rest of our team were Panthers quality on defence… what a load of shit.

People turned on him tenfold once he signed with the Broncos very exaggerated in some cases

 

[wizards rage]

People turned on him tenfold once he signed with the Broncos very exaggerated in some cases

In his first year his value was immense. 20 try/ try assists in 16 games. Attacking threat and not really exposed in defence so much. We prioritised blooding him and gifting him experience to the point we lost Roger Tuivasa-Sheck. We treated him very well.

Last year his attacking contribution was limited. 14 try/ try assists in 22 games. Plus he was exposed in defence. He seemed off. Then he signed for the broncos and hadn’t repay our faith.

All good - he had family to look out for. It’s pro sport. But the goodwill towards him disappeared. In hindsight he was to green for first grade and we paid for it to develop him then he left before we got the benefit.

 

[jonesy101]

Is Thursday trial on TV please

Yes. Sky Sport are showing it. Says 7:45 with 8pm kickoff.

 

[Fonzie]

This forum loves a scapegoat. So Walsh 29 try causes (4 better than Gutho for what it’s worth), along with Dallin Watene-Zelezniak 22 try causes, Shaun Johnson 19 and Montoya 18. Based on the 200 points hit from Walsh that some of you believe, that extends to 600 points impact from our 4 worst try cause offenders - must mean that the rest of our team were Panthers quality on defence… what a load of shit.

 

[Mr Brownstone]

In his first year his value was immense. 20 try/ try assists in 16 games. Attacking threat and not really exposed in defence so much. We prioritised blooding him and gifting him experience to the point we lost Roger Tuivasa-Sheck. We treated him very well.

Last year his attacking contribution was limited. 14 try/ try assists in 22 games. Plus he was exposed in defence. He seemed off. Then he signed for the broncos and hadn’t repay our faith.

All good - he had family to look out for. It’s pro sport. But the goodwill towards him disappeared. In hindsight he was to green for first grade and we paid for it to develop him then he left before we got the benefit.

He was still second for try assists behind Shaun Johnson.