General Who will coach the Warriors 2020???

Who do you want to coach the Warriors?

  • Nathan Brown

    Votes: 12 4.9%
  • Geoff Toovey

    Votes: 31 12.8%
  • Craig Fitzgibbon

    Votes: 34 14.0%
  • Shane Flanagan

    Votes: 28 11.5%
  • Anthony Griffin

    Votes: 46 18.9%
  • Kevin Walters

    Votes: 2 0.8%
  • Walker brothers

    Votes: 35 14.4%
  • John Cartwright

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Shaun Wane

    Votes: 30 12.3%
  • Todd Payton

    Votes: 11 4.5%
  • Stacey Jones

    Votes: 2 0.8%
  • Tony Iro

    Votes: 5 2.1%
  • Kristain Woolf

    Votes: 21 8.6%
  • Wayne Bennett

    Votes: 33 13.6%
  • Michael McGuire

    Votes: 18 7.4%
  • Justin Morgan

    Votes: 2 0.8%
  • Daniel Anderson

    Votes: 3 1.2%
  • Craig Bellamy

    Votes: 44 18.1%

  • Total voters
    243

Juno

1st Grade Fringe
Apr 2, 2018
278
What do you all see in Gould?

Honestly couldn’t stand the guy when I had to listen to him dribble on about NSW during Origin or his Chookies back in the day.

What does he bring that Brian Smith couldn’t deliver?

Will he even be based in Auckland or is it a phone call away kinda thing ???

If it’s a phone call away I might as well listen to all the “experts” on NRL360 giving their 2 cents on everything that is wrong with us. Annoying dickheads. Blocker Roach and Grey Alexander top of the list.

Nathan Brown was our “specialist” assistant coach - guessing hooker? I mean look how well Egan has been for us this year ..

You should all stop yanking off on Gould. Until he actually delivers. He’s all smoke.
Conspiracy theory number 56 to 60+
I think the decision was already made that the Warriors will be based in Oz regardless of Covid. Covid helped make it happen sooner and pave the way for a reasonable and just decision. With just enough games in AK so people can kid themselves its still the NZ/ AK Warriors.

I think its been on the cards for some time. Owner lives there, CG is from there, they got rid of the development pathways in NZ (hmmmm...wondered why Brian Smith left relatively abruptly?) and now they've cosied up to an Oz feeder club - something that always needed to happen but why not alongside NZ pathways or as part of?

Gould might not be interested otherwise? Maybe that's why Brown decided to take the job now?

Maybe the NRL need the Warriors and could easily/ happily continue to accommodate them - on the Central Coast? or thereabouts? As long as its not Sydney and it suits what may have been a partly formed plan for a couple of years down the road (before Covid made kickstarted it).

Why? It's what needs to happen to be able to recruit Oz players right? They won't come to NZ (or not eastablished ones & identified talented young guys anyway) and we can't even get NZers who have forgotten they are until test time, or just don't want to live in AK and/ or play for the poisoned chalice that is the Warriors as we know it...

Maybe that's why SK had to go when he did - 6 games into a season that no-one knew how it would all pan out - he had faith in his kiwi warriors and was prepared/ expected to do it from AK?

I read up a bit about Robinson and Autex & its full of how he reacts to this and that, changes the business to fit the market etc - heavy emphasis on change management. Its what he does, its his comfort zone & he lives over there lol

Doom merchant predictions:
1. The warriors are not going to be the same after this, they are going to be a team like every other team in the comp, predominately Oz players with a cohort of brown-skinned Maori & PI boys, maybe a Fijiian or two, and of course some mob boys.

2. There's probably going to be some more player movement or three before this season is over or heading into the next - even staying another year (or longer) is not going to suit some & others may think it changes things in a different way for them. I can't see it ending well for some.

3. Last but not least, I don't think Gus will be able to stand the owner - one big ego in the room is hard enough - any bets which one will hit first...or are they both just talk lol

Apologies, no work on and feeling creative
 
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gREVUS

Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
Contributor
May 8, 2012
8,770
Brownie's club coaching record:

2003–08St. George Illawarra1518007153%
2009–12Huddersfield Giants1317615458%
2013–14St Helens623912263%
2016–19Newcastle Knights942416926%

Was the youngest ever non-playing coach of an NRL side (29 years old) and took St George to the finals 4 times in 6 seasons there. He then took Huddersfield and St Helens to the finals every season he was in charge there, including the Championship Final with Huddersfield in 2009 in his first season and the title with St Helens in his second season. When he took on the Knights job he replaced Rick Stone who was sacked mid-season. It was a tough assignment and he struggled, like most coaches probably would.

SK's club coaching record:

2011–12Parramatta Eels421013124%
2017–20New Zealand Warriors793214641%
i dont rate the esl, so im sorry i am ignoring that part, imo you could as easily list SKs results as an assistant coach.

St George 2003-2008 the dates say it all, started 17 years ago finished 12 years ago. It was a different era. but i accept his 53% is a good result, but then the kicker. Newcastle 3 years, 2 wooden spoons, 2. and an overall of 26%. His drop in stats is more than he won. 27%. Yes he had issues but so did SK.

Personally i cant see the improvement. But i hope you are all right, and I am wrong

He improved his results in the same time by almost double, almost the same amount NB fell
 

mrblonde

Warriors 1st Grader
Apr 14, 2012
4,133
Auckland
Yeah I'm not saying the stadium itself is a major reason why a player may or may not join the club but the region does. If you're an Aussie looking at potentially moving to NZ and weighing up where to live, schools, and general lifestyle having the club based anywhere but Penrose would certainly help.

Is it anyone wonder why we always hear stories from ex players about how much they hated playing the Warriors at Mt Smart..."Cold, miserable, industrial hole". If Aussie players think that and they're just flying in an out over a weekend imagine how that effects the Warriors squad having to go there all week.

I would say people living out West would prefer to have to travel to North Harbour than Penrose. Would of thought it would be a lot faster trip along the North Western than having to weave through 6 or 7 suburbs and or tackle the Southern Motorway.

I think Eden Park would be a disaster for the Warriors. Not from a facility perspective but from a sense of ownership. The club desperately needs to find a new identity. They would forever just be tenants at Eden Park and there's no way they could base the whole club there (offices, training facility, gyms etc). You could however do that in Albany!

Wouldn't that annoy the hell out of the Tuatara, North Harbour rugby and New Zealand Football, though? Remember Albany's been redone specifically for the Tuatara...Mt Smart has the advantage of the Warriors not needing to fit in with any other team during league season. If we went to Albany, you can bet your bottom dollar NZR would still insist in tests/Super Rugby/etc being held there, so we'd have to move at least one game per season.
 

TheCool

1st Grade Fringe
Jul 18, 2013
2,032
What do you all see in Gould?

Honestly couldn’t stand the guy when I had to listen to him dribble on about NSW during Origin or his Chookies back in the day.

What does he bring that Brian Smith couldn’t deliver?

Will he even be based in Auckland or is it a phone call away kinda thing ???

If it’s a phone call away I might as well listen to all the “experts” on NRL360 giving their 2 cents on everything that is wrong with us. Annoying dickheads. Blocker Roach and Grey Alexander top of the list.

Nathan Brown was our “specialist” assistant coach - guessing hooker? I mean look how well Egan has been for us this year ..

You should all stop yanking off on Gould. Until he actually delivers. He’s all smoke.
Because he did what he said he was going to do with the Panthers. “Premiership contenders in 5 years” and roughly 5 - 7 years later here we are.

Said he was going re-implement their junior pathways and in the last 7 years they have had by far the most talent coming out of their system than any other team in NRL.

For the record, I can’t stand listening to the guy talk either. But he gets shit done.
 

Dunedin warrior

1st Grade Fringe
Nov 10, 2014
1,193
i dont rate the esl, so im sorry i am ignoring that part, imo you could as easily list SKs results as an assistant coach.

St George 2003-2008 the dates say it all, started 17 years ago finished 12 years ago. It was a different era. but i accept his 53% is a good result, but then the kicker. Newcastle 3 years, 2 wooden spoons, 2. and an overall of 26%. His drop in stats is more than he won. 27%. Yes he had issues but so did SK.

Personally i cant see the improvement. But i hope you are all right, and I am wrong

He improved his results in the same time by almost double, almost the same amount NB fell

That Newcastle roster he inherited was absolutely useless. Been watching league for 30 years and only a Western Suburbs team in the late 90s comes close to being as bad.

By comparison Kearney inherited a team is disarray at Parra but had also been grand finalists. At warriors too you could argue that Kearney inherited a team on the cusp of the 8, and turned them into a bottom four team.

I don’t know whether Brown is going to be a good coach, but he’s certainly better than Kearney and pretty close to Griffin and Green in terms of ability for me. The Gould part makes it the clincher for me.

Feeling surprisingly positive for the first time in a long time. It’s going to be a long journey but I think we’ll start heading in the right direction.
 

BeastMode

Warriors 1st Grader
Mar 7, 2015
9,272
Conspiracy theory number 56 to 60+
I think the decision was already made that the Warriors will be based in Oz regardless of Covid. Covid helped make it happen sooner and pave the way for a reasonable and just decision. With just enough games in AK so people can kid themselves its still the NZ/ AK Warriors.

I think its been on the cards for some time. Owner lives there, CG is from there, they got rid of the development pathways in NZ (hmmmm...wondered why Brian Smith left relatively abruptly?) and now they've cosied up to an Oz feeder club - something that always needed to happen but why not alongside NZ pathways or as part of?

Gould might not be interested otherwise? Maybe that's why Brown decided to take the job now?

Maybe the NRL need the Warriors and could easily/ happily continue to accommodate them - on the Central Coast? or thereabouts? As long as its not Sydney and it suits what may have been a partly formed plan for a couple of years down the road (before Covid made kickstarted it).

Why? It's what needs to happen to be able to recruit Oz players right? They won't come to NZ (or not eastablished ones & identified talented young guys anyway) and we can't even get NZers who have forgotten they are until test time, or just don't want to live in AK and/ or play for the poisoned chalice that is the Warriors as we know it...

Maybe that's why SK had to go when he did - 6 games into a season that no-one knew how it would all pan out - he had faith in his kiwi warriors and was prepared/ expected to do it from AK?

I read up a bit about Robinson and Autex & its full of how he reacts to this and that, changes the business to fit the market etc - heavy emphasis on change management. Its what he does, its his comfort zone & he lives over there lol

Doom merchant predictions:
1. The warriors are not going to be the same after this, they are going to be a team like every other team in the comp, predominately Oz players with a cohort of brown-skinned Maori & PI boys, maybe a Fijiian or two, and of course some mob boys.

2. There's probably going to be some more player movement or three before this season is over or heading into the next - even staying another year (or longer) is not going to suit some & others may think it changes things in a different way for them. I can't see it ending well for some.

3. Last but not least, I don't think Gus will be able to stand the owner - one big ego in the room is hard enough - any bets which one will hit first...or are they both just talk lol

Apologies, no work on and feeling creative

New Zealand Gold Coast Warriors has a nice ring to it
 

bangbros18

1st Grade Fringe
May 20, 2019
2,716
What would all of you be happy to see with brown as head coach? If we make the finals 2 out of the three years are we happy? Or is it more about who we sign? What do you all want to see most with brown as a head coach of this lot?

I want to see our players responding to a solid gameplan. I guess just consistency across the board and not consistently shit! How much time do we give brown?
 

warriors55

1st Grade Fringe
Sep 12, 2017
1,667
That Newcastle roster he inherited was absolutely useless. Been watching league for 30 years and only a Western Suburbs team in the late 90s comes close to being as bad.

By comparison Kearney inherited a team is disarray at Parra but had also been grand finalists. At warriors too you could argue that Kearney inherited a team on the cusp of the 8, and turned them into a bottom four team.

I don’t know whether Brown is going to be a good coach, but he’s certainly better than Kearney and pretty close to Griffin and Green in terms of ability for me. The Gould part makes it the clincher for me.

Feeling surprisingly positive for the first time in a long time. It’s going to be a long journey but I think we’ll start heading in the right direction.

Exactly. This is a journey I can get behind and support. Not like the bullshit process we have been on the last few years.

This is the most enthusiastic and positive I have felt about the club a very long time.
 

Kestrel84

Rippin' and a Tearin'
Contributor
Aug 26, 2017
830
Auckland
What would all of you be happy to see with brown as head coach? If we make the finals 2 out of the three years are we happy? Or is it more about who we sign? What do you all want to see most with brown as a head coach of this lot?

I want to see our players responding to a solid gameplan. I guess just consistency across the board and not consistently shit! How much time do we give brown?

I'd be happy with making the playoffs once in the next 3 years. If anyone expects more than that you don't realise how bad a team we have been.

The main thing I want is a team who is competitive and entertaining to watch, not a fucking slog. When we lose I want it to be close and not these blowouts we see every other week.
 

BeastMode

Warriors 1st Grader
Mar 7, 2015
9,272
That Newcastle roster he inherited was absolutely useless. Been watching league for 30 years and only a Western Suburbs team in the late 90s comes close to being as bad.

By comparison Kearney inherited a team is disarray at Parra but had also been grand finalists. At warriors too you could argue that Kearney inherited a team on the cusp of the 8, and turned them into a bottom four team.

I don’t know whether Brown is going to be a good coach, but he’s certainly better than Kearney and pretty close to Griffin and Green in terms of ability for me. The Gould part makes it the clincher for me.

Feeling surprisingly positive for the first time in a long time. It’s going to be a long journey but I think we’ll start heading in the right direction.

Yeap inherited a crap team and upgraded by signing Mason Lino, Jacob Lilyman, James Gavet and was willing to take Isaac Luke...

Took that team from crap to crap x2 💩 💩
 

Uster101

1st Grade Fringe
Jul 25, 2020
510
What would all of you be happy to see with brown as head coach? If we make the finals 2 out of the three years are we happy? Or is it more about who we sign? What do you all want to see most with brown as a head coach of this lot?

I want to see our players responding to a solid gameplan. I guess just consistency across the board and not consistently shit! How much time do we give brown?
The coach is sorted - now it is about signings - will we get any? probably not if the team is back based in Auckland - better chance for signings if they are based in Australia next season. But still will a player want to sign with the Warriors for more then 1 year knowing they are likely going to have to move the Auckland after the first season?

First priority would be a number 7 as we do not have one now that Green is gone. But he was not going to be there next season anyway so they knew they need to sign a halfback priority - you cannot go into a season without a halfback as we found out last season. They do not seen to have any faith on AK otherwise they would be playing him for the rest of the season to see if he will be capable of playing 7 in the coming seasons. So by not playing him you can take it they don't like him so they don't have anyone for next season !
 

tajhay

Negative Nancy
Mar 30, 2012
10,546
Sydney
I'm not sure the Kearney sympathisers realise how badly he has been for the club. Those of you asking why sack him during covid? Well his Moses boys would have been resigned under him.

#puppet

Anything was going to be an upgrade. Well may be except Tony Kemp.
 
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Gizzyfan

Warriors 1st Grader
Jan 2, 2013
5,774
I cannot see Gould basing himself in NZ, even without Covid he has many things going on in Sydney that would preclude that.

Now the reality check, why do the Warriors need to be based in NZ, a large merchandising and contact hub should suffice.

As long as the games are played in NZ I would base them on the Sunshine Coast. It would solve the recruitment issue to some extent.
 
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Fonzie

1st Grade Fringe
Apr 22, 2018
1,046
I'm not sure the Kearney sympathisers realise how badly he has been for the club. Those of you asking why sack him during covid? Well his Moses boys would have been resigned under him.

#puppet

Anything was going to be an upgrade. Well may be except Tony Kemp.
That’s rubbish. Kearney did not have the power to resign those boys against the clubs wishes. No reason they couldn’t have appointed a head of football/coaching director like Gould to oversee 2021 recruitment/retention
 

Sledge

1st Grade Fringe
Apr 10, 2016
2,078
This is a big let down for me, I 100% agree he is better that Kearney as the guy was fuckin useless, and I would even say he is better than Payten, time will tell I guess. Did his signing mean apart from the Walkers and Toovey nobody else was interested? Also where are all the Kiwi coaches? NZ League really is at its lowest point imo, the Warriors being so crap definitely hasn’t helped, if Brown and Gould don’t turn this around quickly I can see us being gone from this comp.
 

tajhay

Negative Nancy
Mar 30, 2012
10,546
Sydney
That’s rubbish. Kearney did not have the power to resign those boys against the clubs wishes. No reason they couldn’t have appointed a head of football/coaching director like Gould to oversee 2021 recruitment/retention
Kearney pushed for those players to be signed, pointing to the fact he was trying to create the team he needed. Denying him the players he needed to be successful, would be showing no confidence in his opinion. If Kearney was still here for another 2 years we would be in a deeper hole. Let's see how he goes when/if gets his another NRL head coach role. He had ample time but took us to greater depths of despair.

I agree that we should have always had a head of football.
 

wrighty

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I'm not sure the Kearney sympathisers realise how badly he has been for the club. Those of you asking why sack him during covid? Well his Moses boys would have been resigned under him.

#puppet

Anything was going to be an upgrade. Well may be except Tony Kemp.
Where you at tajhay tajhay on Brown and Gould? Happy or would you have preferred Payten?
 

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