General Warriors written off ? 2022

I see on my Twitter feed “Reading the play” has the warriors picked for the wooden spoon WTF??? I’m thinking top8 min ..we certainly have one of the best all-round warriors sides imho great pack really attacking options across the park .. imho this is the best side I’ve seen WAR list since Pricey days ..
 

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Everyone always underestimates us - let ‘em!
We are Defs coming for that top 8 and date I say - great challengers for the finals! I know we say it every year but I genuinely have such a great vibe and feeling about this season! Agreed that it’s one of the best teams since the Pricey days! Just hearing the boys speak in podcasts and interviews - the energy and excitement is there and they really sound like they wanna play for each other and for us fans! All the doubters can stay pressed! Let’s gone WARRIORS 🔥🔥🔥
 
The Aussies typically go through their favourites then look at the other sides and see some positives with recruitment improvements or new coach and talk them up. Unless there are clubs that are well and truly in a hole and they want to stick the boot in.

Process of elimination they then get to the Warriors. We are often described last. The best way to fix it is to win consistently year after year.

Rothfield often picks us for the spoon and then gets torn apart.

I've seen one comment written that our forwards are too slow. We can't win a few years back our forwards were all short and stocky and were talked up as "big Warriors forwards".

It will be good to see top 8 predictions and who rates us but I'm happy to be under the radar. The squad has been reworked to have more speed out wide and more power in the middle. Add Johnson along with Walsh and we should be able to get more points. Not too worried about mobility in the middle with Pene adding leg speed and some of the others are still young and mobile.
 
Judge them after the first 10 rounds and then say if they are going to in the race for the Semi's or the wooden spoon.

I say this all the time but I'll say it again - Going on my stats that I have for the Warriors every time they made the Semi's they've won at least 6 of their first 10 games. Not 5 but 6.

So judge them after Round 10.
 
Judge them after the first 10 rounds and then say if they are going to in the race for the Semi's or the wooden spoon.

I say this all the time but I'll say it again - Going on my stats that I have for the Warriors every time they made the Semi's they've won at least 6 of their first 10 games. Not 5 but 6.

So judge them after Round 10.
Some years are a bit of an anomaly too, like 2018 we should have been top 4 by our points and were except for a forward pass not caught against the sharks. That was the sign of a more even competition and I can see a similar year this year, most teams have recruited well and good youngsters coming through.
 

Geoff Public

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Bookies agree that it's not a good year for us

Most likely to finish 13th or worse.
Expected to win 8 games or less.

Bookies aren't in the habit of being far of the mark, so I don't see the point of getting worked up every time someone predicts the same.

This is the team and staff Gould and O Sullivan left us, so how we go is the definition of their time with us.

I hope we do better than expectations and the punters take the bookies cash

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Bookies agree that it's not a good year for us

Most likely to finish 13th or worse.
Expected to win 8 games or less.

Bookies aren't in the habit of being far of the mark, so I don't see the point of getting worked up every time someone predicts the same.

This is the team and staff Gould and O Sullivan left us, so how we go is the definition of their time with us.

I hope we do better than expectations and the punters take the bookies cash

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Who cares about logic…

I have us top four on nothing but it’s my team and I’ll back them every year 🎉
 
Of course it all depends on injuries hey.

Wooden spoon is a reality if you lose all your key players.

We are a bit of a joke. Long running one....too long.

Saying the Warriors will come last is like saying the Tits Dogs Tigers are gonna come last....it just feels right....New signings be darned.

Like others have said we have to play hard, and do it early, at least 7 rounds of hard play.

Just like Kearney's first year. Round seven and eight come along and Warriors are being mentioned as a must see match.

So it's doable. But you gotta defend so hard out that commentators get a shock and Refs more importantly take you seriously on the 50/50s.

I am confident in the big names, we have the props to go up against them all.

After that if Shaun Johnson and Walsh and Egan are fit, the rest after the props are good enough to hang in there in games.

Players defensively to watch:

Walsh needs a big year in defence, play times over.

Kodi if he plays needs effective protection. He is too long in the tooth to have confidence in 1:1.

There are a lot of body guards out there if they are being coached right, we should have a highly defensive side.

Curran
Tohu Harris
Lodge
Addin Fonua-Blake
Pene
Egan
Ben Murdoch-Masila
Bunty

These are guys who can defend well... but Ben Murdoch-Masila is the one who we need to show up every game off the ball, because he is a good defender when he is on....last year he had some unacceptable efforts...this year he has leaned right down.
Ben Murdoch-Masila is the most talented ball runner out there, but it's no use if he isn't also someone we can rely on to tackle up if the bench suddenly hemorrhages through injury.

I left out Jazz because he's a special case. All he has to do is calm down a bit....when he thinks....uses his brain....he's the most offensive defender in the team.

He could be a star for the Warriors, hell he could be player of the year if he plays smart.

Katoa needs to seriously improve his defence, Siro too....they're OK but not as good as all these other guys aye.

Then on the edges Pompey, Dallin Watene-Zelezniak Montoya, Berry, these guys are all good defensive players.

This is an unusual situation for the Warriors. VERY unusual.

So it's gonna be a big deal if Walsh has soughted his tackling out....we could finally get into the wrestle and back up the inevitable mistakes and infringements and actually survive games when we are on the ropes and not blowout like every single year.

People are excited about the attack, and I am a bit with forwards and Shaun Johnson kicking....I like the meters don't get me wrong.

But it's the defence I will be watching, same every season....the Warriors won't ever win shit without the defence.
 
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Kestrel84

Rippin' and a Tearin'
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It is a bit like people who think Putin is great, they thought Eric Watson was as well.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Lets play a game. Take a 6 sided dice and roll it, based on the below numbers Bruce will say one of the following:

1 - Jacinda is a communist
2 - Eric Watson is the devil. And a communist
3 - Rarrrrghh Putin *spit*. (To be fair....he is a communist)
4 - No grounds in the world have ever been or ever will be greater than Carlaw Park
5 - Heyzeus, _ _ _ _ _ is an idiot
6 - Something inappropriate about women

This also could be a decent drinking game, but I suspect since we are all Warriors supporters, we don't need another reason to drink. There might be a possible 20 sided dice version of this, but I might be labelled a communist for attempting it.


Anyway, the Warriors perform much the same whether they are underrated or overrated, but the best thing for the team is for them to be able to focus on themselves and not what any expectation is. I think they have a very promising squad this year, but I think we'll still be in that 8-12 position and if we have minimum injuries throughout the year, then we're a pretty good shot at the 8.
 
Sadly, I think there's a greater chance of us winning that in the future than there is us winning the premiership.
Uncomfortable reality.

If three of your spine are out for the season, then 3 rookie fill ins at the Warriors are very vulnerable...we are not the Storm.

We have just been lucky not to have a catastrophic fail in the critical areas of the team.

Having said that, this year we have a lot of depth in our spine.

But the day will come, when we have a catastrophic fail of our roster.....whereas winning the premiership is not something that is inevitable the longer you are in the comp.
 

Beastmode

Just another day in paradise
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Sadly, I think there's a greater chance of us winning that in the future than there is us winning the premiership.
Nonsense. Stop talking so much sense.

This is our year. We can’t be stopped. Hardest preseason ever.

Our prodigal son has returned, and he will take us to glory.
Warriors +12 tomorrow

#blindfaith
 
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gREVUS

Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
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i think we have a good team, but once u look beyond the players things look very shakey very fast. leadership especially
 
Look, I've said before and I'll say again (not that I ever do that kind of thing, so this is a new experience for me! :) ):

Whenever the media and "fair weather fans" start jumping up and down and saying "The Warriors Could Do It!" or even "This Is Our Year!" ( (c) Some Warriors Fan 2000s-ish All Rights Reserved) etc I get the heebie jeebies majorly. I remember we were touted by the Herald to meet the Dragons in the 2000 Grand Final. My memories of 2000 are a bit hazy (probably good for my mental health that way), but I have a sneaking feeling that was not how the Warriors ended 2000...

I agree with gREVUS that the leadership group doesn't at present look particularly stunning. I mean, yes, we've not gone for 6 captains like the Cowboys, but I'm looking past Tohu Harris and for various reasons (Lodge: Bit too much of an arsehole personality, Fonua-Blake: Might get offside with the referees too easily by being a bit mouthy, Johnson: Might do well as captain but do you want your captain on the sidelines as often as I suspect Johnson is going to be, Nikorima: Has enough on his plate trying to prove he's worth a contract whereever for 2023, Tevaga: A bit too much like Lodge etc) I'm not seeing much leadership in the squad at present. I hope I'm proved wrong - Aitkin, Watene-Zelezniak I hope can step up if need be - but as of now...Hmmm.

I don't think the Warriors are too good to win the Wooden Spoon as much as I think the Bulldogs and Tigers aren't good enough to avoid the Wooden Spoon. That is to say, if everything goes against us, then, yep, Wooden Spoon for us. Whereas even if some things go pretty well for the Bulldogs and Tigers they'll still be in contention for the Wooden Spoon.
 
Look, I've said before and I'll say again (not that I ever do that kind of thing, so this is a new experience for me! :) ):

Whenever the media and "fair weather fans" start jumping up and down and saying "The Warriors Could Do It!" or even "This Is Our Year!" ( (c) Some Warriors Fan 2000s-ish All Rights Reserved) etc I get the heebie jeebies majorly. I remember we were touted by the Herald to meet the Dragons in the 2000 Grand Final. My memories of 2000 are a bit hazy (probably good for my mental health that way), but I have a sneaking feeling that was not how the Warriors ended 2000...

I agree with gREVUS that the leadership group doesn't at present look particularly stunning. I mean, yes, we've not gone for 6 captains like the Cowboys, but I'm looking past Tohu Harris and for various reasons (Lodge: Bit too much of an arsehole personality, Fonua-Blake: Might get offside with the referees too easily by being a bit mouthy, Johnson: Might do well as captain but do you want your captain on the sidelines as often as I suspect Johnson is going to be, Nikorima: Has enough on his plate trying to prove he's worth a contract whereever for 2023, Tevaga: A bit too much like Lodge etc) I'm not seeing much leadership in the squad at present. I hope I'm proved wrong - Aitkin, Watene-Zelezniak I hope can step up if need be - but as of now...Hmmm.

I don't think the Warriors are too good to win the Wooden Spoon as much as I think the Bulldogs and Tigers aren't good enough to avoid the Wooden Spoon. That is to say, if everything goes against us, then, yep, Wooden Spoon for us. Whereas even if some things go pretty well for the Bulldogs and Tigers they'll still be in contention for the Wooden Spoon.
Leadership wise...
- Shaun Johnson is definitely there now
Addin Fonua-Blake - named as captian so you can bank on him
- Harris Captian
- Dallin Watene-Zelezniak former kiwis captian
- Katoa actually got named in the leadership group last year
Jazz - think he is a leader as well

That is enough for me