Gameday Warriors Vs Roosters 12-05-12

[ShaunJohnson7]

Omar to the Bunnies is what I'm hearing.

For someone who hasn't played first grade I'm not too sure how he could be a first choice wing or backup FB.

Luckily Bluey confirmed this morning that next week the FB slot is between Locke if fit and the Fish.

Fish has been unlucky this year in that he played in games where we were awful and our forwards got totally owned.

Put him behind the package way they're playing and you see a totally different player.

I just don't like Tupou all that much I guess and would rather those guys ahead of him although I don't see that changing to be honest.

It would be a travesty if we let Omar walk especially after just resigning Ropati who before getting injured was awful last night. I'm sorry to see him getting hurt but at least that means he aint getting in the way of better, more deserving players in the nest wee while.......

 

[surfin]

Steve Lyons is the ref that to me gives the Warriors the hardest time. The roosters were off side all game, on top of the fact he was only taking them back about 8, while the Warriors were going back about 12. Way too many slow PTBs and alot of rubbish in the tackles, even the penalty against Ta'ai was dodgey, he copped a heap of rubbish off a couple of guys pissed off at being bumped.

 

[Fazz]

Omar to the Bunnies is what I'm hearing.

For someone who hasn't played first grade I'm not too sure how he could be a first choice wing or backup FB.

Luckily Bluey confirmed this morning that next week the FB slot is between Locke if fit and the Fish.

Fish has been unlucky this year in that he played in games where we were awful and our forwards got totally owned.

Put him behind the package way they're playing and you see a totally different player.

I disagree. While the pack was terrible in the games her played, he was totally disinterested in attack and kick returns. Who's to say his terrible kick returns, which would have kicked the sets off in average fashion, didn't affect the forwards? A lot of times, the forwards thrive off seeing backs run it up with venom. I don't really want to see a player at fullback that only plays well when the rest of the team is doing well. We need a guy at the back that's going to have a dig when the going gets tough, and a player that will put his body on the line to defend a try. If Locke's mind was in Fish's body, you'd quite possibly have the perfect fullback.

All in all, not a terrible win for us, but not to the standard of last week. Honestly though, a win is a win and we'll take the two any way we can get them right now. I think considering we had a 5/8th back at fullback we should be bloody stoked to have won. It was a gutsy effort to win in that position, even if we did get a few calls go our way.

How good was it to see the young blokes step up too? Mara came out hot, and did a lot of good things. I think he really had something to prove and he did that. These next six weeks could be very interesting. If he's really good, maybe he can nad a spot on the bench for the rest of the year. Hurrell, while still learning in defense, is an absolute weapon in attack. Johnson just continues to baffle defenses, while learning to really control the game. Benry is making us all eat our words from after the first game he had, and is making a real fiat of playing centre too.

Manu is actually hitting a bit of form too. He's seemingly on the way to being the player we love, and not the liability of the past year. Maybe i was the test match that played him into form? He's been a lot better since then.

Also, when is Rapira back? We neeeed to get rid of Tai'ai he's a total liability right now. I can't wait to see him lining up for the Vulcans. He's gone ridiculously backwards this year. The props weren't amazing last night, but they did alright.

Calling it now, with Jimmy in that Roosters team, they'll win a premiership. Their forwards are developing into a fearsome pack, Moga looks to be a good player, and the rest of their team is solid. I think they'll go close to top 4 next year is Maloney fits in well.

 

[Sup42]

Were their forwards dominant? I thought JWH was good and I'm usually a critic of him. He's got the potential but gets caught up in the bluster and intimidation and doesn't normally produce the stats to match. Last night he played a smart game however Big Ben ran for 96 metres from 10 hitups while JWH produced 50m from only 6 hitups. I know JWH's influence for them can't be measured in stats but come on, 50m from JWH and 63m from Kennedy, the two starting props, is rubbish in any coaches book.

Mateo on Radio sport talked about it being the Most intense Forward Battle he has ever played in his whole life...he compared it o Origin.

Styles make fights , two diferrent game plans, we roll of Matulino's meters and dummy our dummy half running , they went out their and Bashed us.
Not surprised JWH didn't Run much he was too busy gang tackling / slowing down our play the Ball , and Allowing their Back line to use their width across the park early in their sets, their off loading was impressive.

I thought our guys were Awesome in that they hung in and soaked up the hurt. They played as a unit , we did well to capitalise on some individual brilliance by holding onto the ball. Close contest....I like the way they play.

 

[Fazz]

It was a massive forward battle. Blokes were getting BELTED all night. On a side note...what about that shoulder charge from Johnson on SKD? How on earth did that even happen? haha

 

[Spence]

I loved watching that - amazing. Johnson has put on a few hits now, he's building a bit of a reputation I think. I feel sorry for SKD, first Sandow destroys him, not Johnson haha.

 

[AttilaTheGorilla]

The physicality was brutal for sure, at times it felt painful to wach. Johnson's improvement is staggering, hope he has a relatively injury free career with the Warriors and the Kiwis.

 

[Sebastian]

Were their forwards dominant? I thought JWH was good and I'm usually a critic of him. He's got the potential but gets caught up in the bluster and intimidation and doesn't normally produce the stats to match. Last night he played a smart game however Big Ben ran for 96 metres from 10 hitups while JWH produced 50m from only 6 hitups. I know JWH's influence for them can't be measured in stats but come on, 50m from JWH and 63m from Kennedy, the two starting props, is rubbish in any coaches book.

Good call. How on earth did they dominate us, when our forwards made more metres on average, and total? I understand they belted us a few times. But i thought we dominated in strong periods at least.

Also some of those big hits the Roosters executed were from offside posistions, and they should've been penalised, anyway.

 

[surfin]

Also some of those big hits the Roosters executed were from offside posistions, and they should've been penalised, anyway.

I'd go as far as saying every tackle they made was from an offside position.

 

[surfin]

Ok this came up else where but thought I might just refloat it after last night, Jimmys goal kicking the last two games has been exceptional, one miss I think and that hit the up rights, but come next year who's going to be doing it? At the moment the only two I can think of with any real history is Shaun Johnson and Nobby, anyone else come to mind? Will Inu still be around and doesn't DJ do most of it in the Vulcans?

 

[Spence]

I'd be comfortable with either Johnson or Locke taking over the kicking duties. Obviously they're not as good as Maloney, but they're NRL quality.

 

[HD]

I didn't realise how fast Hurrell is! Got some feet on him for a stout kid

 

[ToiletDuck]

I'd go as far as saying every tackle they made was from an offside position.

Haha not quite that bad. But agreed re the refs, especially in the first half. We were at the game and the Warriors were constantly tracking back more metres than the Rooters. On occasion they were literally keeping a 12-15m line, it was ridiculous.

 

[Miket12]

The teams seasons stats have been posted as a blog:

https://www.nzwarriorsfans.com/index.php?entries/warriors-season-stats-leaders.3/

 

[Sup42]

On the referee's :

I noticed a couple of serves about the inconsistency. You wanna check out the Chook Pens Fans posts, they are filthy on the Reffs, a few blame the loss on ex Warrior Henry Perenara...

I thought the Reffing was a mixed bag sure. Henry was objective....the other twit was balanced in his incompetence.

 

[Miket12]

The stats vs the roosters have been posted as a blog:

https://www.nzwarriorsfans.com/index.php?entries/stats-vs-roosters-round-10.12/

 

[gREVUS]

Vatuvei scored a great try and seemed genuinely relieved when he scored, it is good as other elements of his game were not as good. His ball security in playing the ball was unacceptable at times. 2 hands on the ball at all times or else my heart is in my mouth. We were lucky to get away with a few of his and Ta'ai's ptbs.

Billy Tupou is really worring me. I know he has his fans, but he is not doing enough good things for mine. Mediocre at best... I don't want to mediocrity in my wingers. I would prefer Inu. it's just my preference.

I dont really understand the negativity re the wingers, Tupou played well defensivley, was good under the high ball, and if passes had been better was in to score 2 more times. Admitidley the non try he shoulda lifted his leg or something but it was a low percentage play.

Manu only has one error recorded against him for the night that was the one that came out of his hands after the take on the high ball, He caught the ball with both hands, on replay he had Sam Perretts hands linked inside his and as he came down sams arms pulled his appart freeing the ball. not sure how you stop that. the wieght of a full grown man pulling on your arm while your off the ground doesnt give you much chance to get leverage and fight back.

I think your entitled to your view, but personally i cant see how its justified

 

[Spence]

I'm a Tupou fan, but I too would prefer Inu on the wing. Well I'd prefer Inu in the centres first and foremost, but if that's not an option I'd like Inu on the wings. I'm happy enough with Tupou though, he's growing into a solid player.

 

[Danpatmac]

I dont really understand the negativity re the wingers, Tupou played well defensivley, was good under the high ball, and if passes had been better was in to score 2 more times. Admitidley the non try he shoulda lifted his leg or something but it was a low percentage play.

Manu only has one error recorded against him for the night
I think your entitled to your view, but personally i cant see how its justified

I think I stated clearly in my post that Manu was lucky to have got away with at least one other error in the ptb. One in particular he dropped cold, it was obvious to see and we got away with it, there was also an incorrect ptb where he kicked the ball forward before rolling it back, again lucky.
This is sloppy stuff that on many other occasions goes against him.
No totally bagging him, he did other good stuff... but these are incredibly basic and all too common.

Tupou is a gumby, there I said it. He is lefty playing on the right and never looks comfortable to me. He mucked up one effort from memory that just simply should have been taken by a grown man without parkinsons.
The nearly try was a good effort and he is capable of being solid, but that's his best and in my opinion I want more than solid in my finishers. People compare him to others like Nightingale and Perrett as solid wingers, unfashionable and a little ungainly... I think it's incredibly unfair to compare those guys to Billy, they are class and in the case of nightingale, almost a case for worlds best winger.

I just don't see Tupou as a player of quality based on body language and co-ordination, this is shown in his mistakes which are usually as awkward as hell to watch.

 

[krs_64]

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The official view -https://www.nrl.com/official-view-s...ht-call/tabid/10874/newsid/67422/default.aspx

What were your thoughts on Joseph Leilua's try for the Roosters against the Warriors? Did he and the Warriors defender both ground the ball simultaneously?​

This is probably the toughest call we have had all year. After looking at it many times in slow motion and all the different angles, we believe the decision to award a try was wrong. We don’t believe Leilua had possession of the ball, he did get his hand on the ball, but the Warriors’ player grounds it with his arm. We believe that it was the wrong call. It should have been a line dropout.​

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Exactly what I thought... Apparently nothing went the Roosters way Pfft!​