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NRL 2016 - Rnd 11 - Warriors vs Raiders Gameday Chatter
Warriors v Raiders: Schick Preview
Wed 18 May, 2016, 12:00pm
By Corey Rosser‌, New Zealand Correspondent , NRL.com
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Schick Hydro Preview:
Warriors v Canberra Raiders
Yarrow Stadium, New Plymouth
Saturday, 7.30pm (NZT), 5.50pm AEST


The NRL Telstra Premiership will break new ground this Saturday, hosting a game in New Plymouth for the first time when the Warriors take on the Raiders.

It shapes as an important match given both sides currently sit outside the top eight – the Raiders 9th and the Warriors 13th – with the winner a chance of jumping back into the top half of the competition by the end of Round 11.

The Warriors fell apart in the second half against the Panthers in an eventual 30-18 loss last week, and are missing Solomone Kata to a one-week suspension, with Matt Allwood replacing him in the centres.

The return of workhorse lock Simon Mannering is a huge boost for the Warriors, while prop Sam Lisone comes onto the bench and rookie Toafofoa Sipley is named at 18th man.

A number of positional changes sees Issac Luke start at hooker in the place of Jazz Tevaga, and Ben Matulino return to the starting side ahead of James Gavet.

Raiders coach Ricky Stuart was left to rue individual errors which cost his side a chance to beat the Dragons in golden point, going down 16-12 after gifting an intercept try.

They are without lock Shaun Fensom [shoulder] for the trip to New Zealand, with Luke Bateman taking his place.

On a positive note Jeff Lima returns on a six-man bench which includes Sam Williams and Frank-Paul Nuuausala.

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Watch out Warriors: The Raiders present a huge threat down their right edge, with Joseph Leilua and Jordan Rapana – the centre and winger on that side of the field – assisting or scoring 19 of Canberra's 39 tries so far this year. Rapana leads the NRL in line breaks with 14 in 10 games, while Leilua tops the competition in offloads, averaging 3.7 per game.

The Kiwi side had a number of chances to add to their tally of 18 points last week, but continually let themselves down with errors late in tackle counts and wrong options at the end of their sets. Several of the Warriors' nine errors came as they were building in the opposition half, while halfback Shaun Johnson came up with some poor kicks on last tackles, which failed to build any pressure. They'll need to be better.

Watch out Raiders: It's impressive that Canberra were even able to take the game to golden point last week, given they managed to complete only 63 per cent of their sets. The high error rate meant they finished on the wrong side of the possession count and had to make 119 tackles more than their opponents. That area will need to be better this weekend.

Mannering is back, and with his return the Warriors become a much more secure defensive unit in the middle of the park. The Kiwi international captain gets involved heavily in the clean-up work, and so far this year averages 43 tackles. He also frees up other members of the squad to focus more on their attacking impact.

Key match-up: Issac Luke v Josh Hodgson. They have had contrasting seasons so far, with Hodgson leading the Dally M count after 10 weeks and Luke struggling to find the type of form which had him billed as one of the biggest signings of 2016. But their battle in the middle will be crucial nonetheless, with Hodgson averaging 57.9 metres and 35.1 tackles per game, and Luke 65.3 metres and 29.2 tackles. Watch for the little extra plays from both players – Hodgson with his 40/20 threat and Luke with his breaks from dummy-half – which could turn the game.

The history: Played 34; Warriors 17, Raiders 17. The Warriors' recent head-to-head record against the Raiders is very good, with five-straight victories over the Green Machine. Canberra also haven't won in New Zealand in their last three games, in a stretch which dates back to 2012.

What are the odds: The Warriors start as the favourite with Sportsbet but punters are only interested in the Raiders. More than 80% of the money is on the Raiders with Canberra 1-12 the predicted margin.

Match Officials: Referee: Grant Atkins. Assistant Referee: Matt Noyen. Touch Judges: Shane Rehm and Rohan Best. Review Officials: Ben Galea. Senior RO: Ashley Klein.

Televised: Fox Sports – Live coverage from 5.00pm (AEST) 7:00pm (NZST)

How we see it: The Raiders have lost their way over the last couple of games, and are being punished for some loose play and ill-discipline with ball in hand. The Warriors are hardly perfect themselves and were badly exposed in certain areas in the loss to Penrith last week. But so far in 2016 they have rarely put similar performances together consecutively – good or bad – and if they show up mentally on Saturday they will be too good for Canberra. Warriors by eight.


Vodafone Warriors
1 Tuimoala Lolohea
2 Jonathan Wright
3 Blake Ayshford
4 Matthew Allwood
5 David Fusitua
6 Thomas Leuluai
7 Shaun Johnson
8 Jacob Lillyman
9 Issac Luke
10 Ben Matulino
11 Bodene Thompson
12 Ryan Hoffman(c)
13 Simon Mannering

Interchange:
14 Jazz Tevaga
15 Sam Lisone
16 John Palavi
17 James Gavet
18 Toafofoa Sipley

Canberra Raiders
1. Jack Wighton
2. Edrick Lee
3. Jarrod Croker
4. Joseph Leilua
5. Jordan Rapana
6. Blake Austin
7. Aiden Seizer
8. Shannon Boyd
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Paul Vaughan
11. Josh Papalii
12. Elliot Whitehead
13. Luke Bateman

14. Kurt Baptiste
15. Jeff Lima
16. Clay Priest
17. Joseph Tapine
18. Sam Williams
19. Frank-Paul Nuuausala
 
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Pete

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Oct 3, 2012
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Warriors 13 plus for sure. Put Ricky Stuart under the blowtorch. Feeling confident......ish.
 

Rick O'Shay

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May 1, 2013
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Been terrible weather down here all week and more of the same for tonight. A lot of thunderstorms so will be interesting to see what happens if there is a possibility of lightning strikes. At the moment it's showers with a reasonably strong Nor'wester so will be blowing right to left across the field. Shaun Johnson better have learnt his lesson from Christchurch.

Should be a big crowd.

Janfin special for me.

Sorry Jonno for the weather stuff, don't want to create any factions on the forum.
 

Mr Dragon

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Jul 25, 2015
1,487
Time to make are run into the 8 like we do every year, and you know what happens after that.
 
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jonno

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Jul 13, 2014
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Been terrible weather down here all week and more of the same for tonight. A lot of thunderstorms so will be interesting to see what happens if there is a possibility of lightning strikes. At the moment it's showers with a reasonably strong Nor'wester so will be blowing right to left across the field. Shaun Johnson better have learnt his lesson from Christchurch.

Should be a big crowd.

Janfin special for me.

Sorry Jonno for the weather stuff, don't want to create any factions on the forum.
Hay I'll trust the man in the zone to deliver the goods...
 
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StephenDedalus

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Oct 23, 2015
63
Belfast, Ireland
What time is kick-off at? think it'll be too late for me to watch live so I'll watch it in the morning. Hope the Warriors win tomorrow...I am fucking gutted right now as my union just lost another semi-final, another promising season with flashes of brilliance but nothing to show for it. If the warriors win it'll give me something to celebrate at least.

Edit 8.30am for me, not bad I can get up and watch it.
 
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Warriors v Raiders: Schick Preview
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Schick Hydro Preview: Warriors v Canberra Raiders
Yarrow Stadium, New Plymouth
Saturday, 7.30pm (NZT), 5.50pm AEST

The NRL Telstra Premiership will break new ground this Saturday, hosting a game in New Plymouth for the first time when the Warriors take on the Raiders.

It shapes as an important match given both sides currently sit outside the top eight – the Raiders 9th and the Warriors 13th – with the winner a chance of jumping back into the top half of the competition by the end of Round 11.

The Warriors fell apart in the second half against the Panthers in an eventual 30-18 loss last week, and are missing Solomone Kata to a one-week suspension, with Matt Allwood replacing him in the centres.

The return of workhorse lock Simon Mannering is a huge boost for the Warriors, while prop Sam Lisone comes onto the bench and rookie Toafofoa Sipley is named at 18th man.

A number of positional changes sees Issac Luke start at hooker in the place of Jazz Tevaga, and Ben Matulino return to the starting side ahead of James Gavet.

Raiders coach Ricky Stuart was left to rue individual errors which cost his side a chance to beat the Dragons in golden point, going down 16-12 after gifting an intercept try.

They are without lock Shaun Fensom [shoulder] for the trip to New Zealand, with Luke Bateman taking his place.

On a positive note Jeff Lima returns on a six-man bench which includes Sam Williams and Frank-Paul Nuuausala.


Watch out Warriors: The Raiders present a huge threat down their right edge, with Joseph Leilua and Jordan Rapana – the centre and winger on that side of the field – assisting or scoring 19 of Canberra's 39 tries so far this year. Rapana leads the NRL in line breaks with 14 in 10 games, while Leilua tops the competition in offloads, averaging 3.7 per game.

The Kiwi side had a number of chances to add to their tally of 18 points last week, but continually let themselves down with errors late in tackle counts and wrong options at the end of their sets. Several of the Warriors' nine errors came as they were building in the opposition half, while halfback Shaun Johnson came up with some poor kicks on last tackles, which failed to build any pressure. They'll need to be better.

Watch out Raiders: It's impressive that Canberra were even able to take the game to golden point last week, given they managed to complete only 63 per cent of their sets. The high error rate meant they finished on the wrong side of the possession count and had to make 119 tackles more than their opponents. That area will need to be better this weekend.

Mannering is back, and with his return the Warriors become a much more secure defensive unit in the middle of the park. The Kiwi international captain gets involved heavily in the clean-up work, and so far this year averages 43 tackles. He also frees up other members of the squad to focus more on their attacking impact.

Key match-up: Issac Luke v Josh Hodgson. They have had contrasting seasons so far, with Hodgson leading the Dally M count after 10 weeks and Luke struggling to find the type of form which had him billed as one of the biggest signings of 2016. But their battle in the middle will be crucial nonetheless, with Hodgson averaging 57.9 metres and 35.1 tackles per game, and Luke 65.3 metres and 29.2 tackles. Watch for the little extra plays from both players – Hodgson with his 40/20 threat and Luke with his breaks from dummy-half – which could turn the game.

The history: Played 34; Warriors 17, Raiders 17. The Warriors' recent head-to-head record against the Raiders is very good, with five-straight victories over the Green Machine. Canberra also haven't won in New Zealand in their last three games, in a stretch which dates back to 2012.

What are the odds: The Warriors start as the favourite with Sportsbet but punters are only interested in the Raiders. More than 80% of the money is on the Raiders with Canberra 1-12 the predicted margin. Latest odds at Sportsbet.com.au

Match Officials: Referee: Grant Atkins. Assistant Referee: Matt Noyen. Touch Judges: Shane Rehm and Rohan Best. Review Officials: Ben Galea. Senior RO: Ashley Klein.

Televised: Fox Sports – Live coverage from 5.00pm (AEST)

How we see it: The Raiders have lost their way over the last couple of games, and are being punished for some loose play and ill-discipline with ball in hand. The Warriors are hardly perfect themselves and were badly exposed in certain areas in the loss to Penrith last week. But so far in 2016 they have rarely put similar performances together consecutively – good or bad – and if they show up mentally on Saturday they will be too good for Canberra. Warriors by eight.
 
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dean

1st Grade Fringe
Mar 13, 2016
1,368
Raiders forwards will be all over us and Leilua will make a mockery of us. Get ready to switch over to # 51, it will be too tough to watch.
 

Fazz

1st Grade Fringe
Apr 12, 2012
4,760
Hamilton, New Zealand
If we win, it will be an ugly and unimpressive one. That's a best case scenario. I expect the Raiders to beat us without getting out of second gear. I'll catch a replay if it sounds like we went well, but I have no interest in watching live.
 
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rugged

1st Grade Fringe
May 1, 2012
2,213
Canberra are as dysfunctional as theWarrirors, either team could thump the other. Or both teams may do their best to lose it producing a low quality affair
 

Sup42

Warriors 1st Grader
May 7, 2012
22,859
A sign of the times.....I care far more about the Joseph Parker outcome than this rabble. Parker at least seems to care whether he wins or loses.
yeah and it is a heavy weight CHAMPIONSHIP OF THE WOOOOOooooorld Fight....cant miss those hey bro, unreal we have a real fight being staged in Auckland.

Good Luck Parker....oh and the other sport...Warriors is it ?
 

JBmurc

1st Grade Fringe
May 19, 2013
920
Central Otago
Actually think we could win this one ..and I don't mind the team that is named as long as they turn up.....don't know about thumping ...low scoring affair I'd say
the team that makes the less mistakes ....perfect conditions for Shaun Johnson to run the ball round this big Raider pack
 

Miket12

Warriors 1st Grader
Apr 20, 2012
10,580
For us to show any improvement, I want us to get aggressive in our defence, have decent line speed as a unit and to put the Raiders to the sword. Anything less than a Janfin Special x 4 winning margin and I'll be disappointed!!!
 
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OMG

Warriors 1st Grader
May 18, 2012
3,991
Churchur
Right I've pretty much guaranteed us getting demolished, 30k NZW bookie dollars riding on them and I have them as the 3rd leg in my real money multi, FFS what I have done.
I gave up punting on them a couple of years ago and rather foolishly started chucking them in my multis again last week, go put the house on the Limeys.
 

6 Again

1st Grade Fringe
Sep 29, 2015
1,333
Wet weather footy, should be a battle of the forwards.

Raiders Pack

8. Boyd Height:194 Weight:122kg
10.Vaughan Height:193 Weight:110kg
11.Papalii Height:182 Weight:112kg
12.Whitehead Height:187 Weight:106kg
13.Bateman Height:182 Weight:100kg
15.Lima Height:182 Weight:105kg
16.Priest Height:187 Weight:95kg
17.Tapine Height:188 Weight:107kg

Our forever publicized "Massive Warriors pack"

8. Lillyman Height:182 Weight:105kg
10.Matulino Height:193 Weight:107kg
11.Thompson Height:185 Weight:107kg
12.Hoffman Height:192 Weight:105kg
13.Mannering Height:190 Weight:104kg
15.Lisone Height:184 Weight:102kg
16.Palavi Height:189 Weight:100kg
17.Gavet Height:189 Weight:108kg

We must be one of the smaller packs in the NRL these days, particularly with this bench. Mind you it's not all about size, we had a bigger pack in the test match and got owned by a side with more desire.

The conditions won't make it any easier for us though.
 
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