General Warriors vs Auckland Vulcans trail..

sebastian_old

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I'm almost sure they said it was on tonight. Pity Aiden won't be playing as it would've been good to see him have a roll in the No. 1, i wonder when they'll update us of Aiden's "tweak" from last week & if he'll be able to play Manly next week. Tonight(if it is tonight) i hope we can at least seperate Kevin & Patrick for the fullback spot. Maybe they can each play 40 min. each.
 

-Dr.J-_old

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Well it's not gonna be a game where you'd see too much running play, on a non pro maintained field in this sort of weather. Did some research and the game should be wrapping up about now, it kicked off at 4pm in Otahuhu.
 

Viking_old

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From stuff.co.nz

Hohaia shines at fullback in trial romp
Warriors thump Auckland Vulcans 50-0


New Zealand Warriors utility Lance Hohaia scored a double in a National Rugby League warmup match as he was given the first chance today to fill the void left by injured fullback Wade McKinnon.


The Kiwis international had ample opportunity with the ball as the Warriors overpowered an Auckland Vulcans selection 50-0 in a trial at Henham Park in Auckland.

Hohaia had his first try in the 19th minute and his second immediately after halftime.

The Warriors were 30-0 ahead at the break after scoring five converted tries.

While adding four more touchdowns in the second half, they gave the coaching staff even more pleasure by keeping a clean defensive sheet on a difficult day for playing football.

Five of the nine tries were scored by players yet make their NRL debuts.

Winger Malo Solomona grabbed two of the first three tries while the last three were all scored by players in the Warriors' under-20 squad – Kevin Locke, Elijah Taylor and Constantine Mika.

Once again coach Ivan Cleary rotated players at a great rate, ensuring a huge variety of combinations. He made 11 interchanges in the second half.

He was also thankful there were no injuries following the knee damage suffered by the classy McKinnon a week ago against Newcastle that threatens to rule him out for the season.

The Vodafone Warriors complete their trial programme with a match against Manly on Queensland's Sunshine Coast on Friday next week.

NZ Warriors 50 (Malo Solomona 2, Lance Hohaia 2, Nathan Fien, Michael Witt, Kevin Locke, Elijah Taylor, Constantine Mika tries; Michael Witt 7 goals).

Auckland Vulcans 0.

Halftime: 30-0.
 
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Jesbass_old

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That article is the official Warriors release. It does concern me that A) Hohaia was at fullback, and B) the only mentions of Locke and Ah Van were about starting as a winger and centre respectively.
 

KeepingTheFaith_old

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Offensively I don't think it would be a problem, but defensively the idea of Hohaia at the back terrifies me. I like the sound of Solomona on the wing. Not a fan of Crocket and would be happy for Malo to have a strong game next week against Manly to cement a starting wingers spot (although in all likelyhood Ah Van will get it if he's not playing fullback.)
 

Northern_Union

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So thats now Hooker, centre, half back, 5/8 and winger he has now played for for the Warriors. For god sakes Ivan let the bloke settle into one position.
 

Jesbass_old

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So thats now Hooker, centre, half back, 5/8 and winger he has now played for for the Warriors. For god sakes Ivan let the bloke settle into one position.

Incidentally, this wasn't the first time Hohaia played for us at fullback. He did the same thing in one of the 2007 trials.
 

jahc_old

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Is Cleary serious about playing Hohaia at fullback in the regular season, or was Hohaia just filling a gap for that particular side?
 
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sebastian_old

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I have so many memories of Hohaia getting pushed aside defensivly at centre that the thought of him playing fullback at NRL level is some what cringing. This was a one way game, Hohaia playing fullback in a tight game at NRL level is a completly different proposition. Having said that offensivly Hohaia could be valuble as he could take much needed presure of Rovelli by coming up into the line & doing some MUCH needed play making with a real X-factor so, defensivly i think he could cost us some tight games but he may make up for it offensivly. I don't think i'm totally against Hohaia at fullback but this is a damn hard desision for Ivan & i trust he'll make the right one..
 
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Northern_Union

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Thats odd Sebastian that you remember Hohaia getting pushed aside in D in the centres, i always considered him to be a rock in defense....that game against Parramatta when they were running Moimoi at him all day he handled him with ease i thought.
 

aussie_warrior_old

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Pros for Lance at FB - Experienced NRL player.
Can take up some of the kicking duties, which we need.
Can play the support player quite well.

Cons - Defence is dodgy.

Worth it? Not sure.
 

Jesbass_old

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Hohaia is very similar to Ropati in the sense that they are both playmakers by history who have found their feet in the centres, (Hohaia also in other places, of course), and have excelled out wide.

I'm not quite sure where the idea that Hohaia is weak on defense at centre comes from, though. I do understand it when it comes to placing himself positionally, which would be his biggest problem at fullback. (Hohaia missed on average more tackles than any other Warrior in 2007, at 3.3 per match.)

But when he gets to his opponent, he's very effective. (Only 0.8 ineffective tackles per match - 8th equal best average for a Warrior.)

So that's why I don't want him at fullback. With the greater room for opponents to cover, there is a greater chance of putting Hohaia out of position, which is his main problem on defense. But keep him in the line, when the opponent has to run at him, and he's much more effective.
 

PB_old

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Lance is what he is at the moment, a good utility. He's no longer a specialist in any position.

People can go on and on (and do) about Lance not getting time in the 7 jersey, but whatever time he's been given in numerous positions by numerous coaches, he's failed to establish himself as the first-choice. Be it through circumstance, unfairness, his own doing, back-of-house issues or whatever, he hasn't. Congratulations will be needed if he ever does, because he'll have deserved it, but he isn't a victim. He's a professional footballer on the periphery of selection, and there are a probably a few around the NRL who'll have more talent but get even less opportunity.

Lance has been a pro at sucking it up till now, and that takes character. When his time comes to shine, wherever, I hope he kicks arse.
 

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