General Warriors Sponsorship Thread

[Akkerz]

Alcohol , gambling etc are about adult choices & I support them more than I should but the junk food message is directed to the younger generations and youngsters will follow their heroes. That is what is so damaging. The kids love the food, some parents love the easy option & sports bodies love the sponsership . So the double standard continues

 

[Jordan G]

I don't see anything inappropriate.

I can understand the point that has been raised, but this is a football club, it's not their responsibility.

 

[surfin]

What is the double standard? Surely as a parent you have the power to be in charge of what you give your kids, afterall the parent is the one with the wallet. The statement "some parents love the easy option", says to me that choice is made whether the Warriors are the face of an ad campaign or not.

 

[Raurimu Massive]

No argument from me that it's not a sports club's responsibility to educate people on matters like fast food. Blatantly targetting sections of society is something entirely different.

Preseason we saw the standard coverage of Warriors 'giving back' to the community and getting involved in school projects and standing up as role models and probably banging on to kids about the importance of education etc etc etc.

During the season we put the biggest PI role models in the club in front of cameras, salivating over fucking greasy burgers and acting too dumb to say a basic fucking word. "Hey there young fullah, it's sweet to be both fucking dumb and fat. Head down to Wendys. #warriorsforlife #itsamatteroffaith #letsgoneburgerwarriors"

 

[Matulino's Left Shoulder]

Are you guys perhaps suggesting that.....

 

[¿N. ig-mah¿]

I am more offended by a player appearing on the news at the airport after dipping out for the year with a McDonalds combo in his hand and the biggest smile on his face. Can't remember who it was, but it just screamed to me "sweet, season done, time to binge! " Far more damaging for mine.

 

[facefacts]

So now that the season is all done bar the Baby Warriors and the inevitable 'where did we go wrong' review, I'll bring up something that's really been bugging the shit out of me with our club.

Some of our sponsorship is really dragging the depths of decency imo. With the Warriors' biggest local fan base famously being the predominantly Maori/PI people of Sth Auckland, it really bugs me that the Warriors promote shit fast food like Wendys using some of the club's biggest PI role models. With the amazing amount of health problems in Maori and PI communities here in NZ caused largely through shit nutrition, I really hate the club whoring out its players like this. The Instant Finance sponsorship isn't much better.

Surely we can whore our players out while still having some sort of social conscience?

[EDIT] Also mightily pissed off how the latest Wendys ad made guys like Koni and Manu look like dumbasses, fumbling around trying to say "Brioche". Hard to say, except if bloody well isn't. Well, maybe for Daryl Halligan.

I get where you're coming from Raurimu, but sponsorship's are basically advertising campaigns, and advertising is about knowing your market, then slamming your product in that target groups faces...if the majority of the Warriors fan base was rich upper class whites, then Louis Vuitton would be sponsoring them rather than the America's cup.

Advertising is a filthy business, that bases everything it does on the differences between people then exploiting those differences as much as possible.

 

[surfin]

No argument from me that it's not a sports club's responsibility to educate people on matters like fast food. Blatantly targetting sections of society is something entirely different.

Preseason we saw the standard coverage of Warriors 'giving back' to the community and getting involved in school projects and standing up as role models and probably banging on to kids about the importance of education etc etc etc.

During the season we put the biggest PI role models in the club in front of cameras, salivating over fucking greasy burgers and acting too dumb to say a basic fucking word. "Hey there young fullah, it's sweet to be both fucking dumb and fat. Head down to Wendys. #warriorsforlife #itsamatteroffaith #letsgoneburgerwarriors"

Fact: Most Warriors players are Polynesian.
Fact: The Wendys ads did use several of the non poly players in the team.
Fact: I doubt any of the white boys could have done the cool eyebrow wave thingy.

Give everyone that supports the Warriors some credit for have the brains to make their own choices.
Also a little surprised you're so pissed off, considering some of the brilliant but controversial stuff you have done.

 

[Iafetas Kickstand Wang]

 

[Raurimu Massive]

Also a little surprised you're so pissed off

I am too mate! It was the Brioche advert that really got to me.

One of my pet beefs is the dumbing down of Maori/PI people. Pity there's no money in having the Manukau Institute of Technology on board as a sponsor so we could have ads that inspire South Aucklanders to do as well as they can instead of ads that say "Hey, it's funny and cool to be fat and dumb."

 

[mrblonde]

Well, one solution would be have to have a lot of sponsors all putting in a smaller amount of money, but how many logos do you want the Warriors clothes to have?? (OT but it amazes me sometimes the "ground" ads you see when you watch the game on TV that are obviously not on the actual field.)

And, yeah, the Wendys ad makes the boys look a bit stupid but that's the stereotype and advertising plays up to that generally (some argue that when you're raising the media profile of a minority, you're better off showing that minoriity in any light - even a negative - so everyone gets used to seeing that minority on screen and then you make the serious point you want to make but that argument does sound like a rich white man who runs a tv production firm/advertising firm argument and I'm not sure how many minorities would agree with that process.) The arrogant rich white prick is another stereotype and everyone laughs at media showing that...

I agree with Raurimu more about the fast finance connection than the fast food connection (I'd have thought Subway would have gotten on board, given that Stacey owns/owned one).

 

[mt.wellington]

I am too mate! It was the Brioche advert that really got to me.

One of my pet beefs is the dumbing down of Maori/PI people. Pity there's no money in having the Manukau Institute of Technology on board as a sponsor so we could have ads that inspire South Aucklanders to do as well as they can instead of ads that say "Hey, it's funny and cool to be fat and dumb."

I dont really feel the urge to go out and buy a Breeocky burger just cause its sactioned by my favourite player. Just like I wouldnt go to the casino or drink Lion Red. When the Warriors were sponsored by DB Bitter you couldnt pay me to drink that vile shit past my first sip of the stuff. Dont think alcoholics were made because it either.

Also with that ad old Bull was also mispronouncing it too so it wasnt a PI thing. Speaking of Bull, he was falling asleep at the bar last night lol...

 

[fizurg]

Few points to make.
I thought it kind of did play up on Polynesian stereo types.
Eating fast food isn't bad for you. Eating fast food everyday is bad for you. (I once had a mate in very good shape be recommended mcdonalds by a doctor)
If your going to acknowledge the Polynesian stereotypes you have to also acknowledge that an indigenous Australian is portrayed as the being the most intelligent.

 

[¿N. ig-mah¿]

Well, one solution would be have to have a lot of sponsors all putting in a smaller amount of money, but how many logos do you want the Warriors clothes to have?? (OT but it amazes me sometimes the "ground" ads you see when you watch the game on TV that are obviously not on the actual field.)

And, yeah, the Wendys ad makes the boys look a bit stupid but that's the stereotype and advertising plays up to that generally (some argue that when you're raising the media profile of a minority, you're better off showing that minoriity in any light - even a negative - so everyone gets used to seeing that minority on screen and then you make the serious point you want to make but that argument does sound like a rich white man who runs a tv production firm/advertising firm argument and I'm not sure how many minorities would agree with that process.) The arrogant rich white prick is another stereotype and everyone laughs at media showing that...

I agree with Raurimu more about the fast finance connection than the fast food connection (I'd have thought Subway would have gotten on board, given that Stacey owns/owned one).

But owning a Subway franchise has made Stacey fat. That can't be good advertising.

 

[matiunz]

Advertising and sponsorship are a necessary evil to pay the bills unfortunately. It comes down to personal choices, I'm not exactly skinny but I know that is my own fault for being a bit slack with the takeaways sometimes it's certainly not because some celebrity told me to.

That being said I do find Chanel 9s betting odds part of their build up as well as the frequent crossing live for odds updates a little grating and unnecessary.

 

[Leedslion007]

Our company Autex used to sponsor the shorts before Wendy's and it costs $500k per season for that privilege.....
Scurrah charges too much to attract local business partners as only the big corporations have the huge levels of cash to drop

We decided that sponsoring the Kiwis side and Pt Chev were better ways to support NZ league

 

[smc]

So now that the season is all done bar the Baby Warriors and the inevitable 'where did we go wrong' review, I'll bring up something that's really been bugging the shit out of me with our club.

Some of our sponsorship is really dragging the depths of decency imo. With the Warriors' biggest local fan base famously being the predominantly Maori/PI people of Sth Auckland, it really bugs me that the Warriors promote shit fast food like Wendys using some of the club's biggest PI role models. With the amazing amount of health problems in Maori and PI communities here in NZ caused largely through shit nutrition, I really hate the club whoring out its players like this. The Instant Finance sponsorship isn't much better.

Surely we can whore our players out while still having some sort of social conscience?

[EDIT] Also mightily pissed off how the latest Wendys ad made guys like Koni and Manu look like dumbasses, fumbling around trying to say "Brioche". Hard to say, except it bloody well isn't. Well, maybe for Daryl Halligan.

I cant find anything about any instant finance sponsorship on either warriors or instant finance websites. Do they actually sponsor the warriors?
I know Stacey Jones did an add for them but that was him on his own without the warriors. He's free to make his own choices in what he associates his name with, I wouldn't want my name associated with such a company.

As for the burgers I've got no issue with that sponsorship but fuck the ads are terrible. I just don't get how they can pretend it's hard to say, nobody is that fucking stupid.

 

[Far Away Fan]

I cant find anything about any instant finance sponsorship on either warriors or instant finance websites. Do they actually sponsor the warriors?
I know Stacey Jones did an add for them but that was him on his own without the warriors. He's free to make his own choices in what he associates his name with, I wouldn't want my name associated with such a company.

As for the burgers I've got no issue with that sponsorship but fuck the ads are terrible. I just don't get how they can pretend it's hard to say, nobody is that fucking stupid.

Oh yes they are.

And Stacey Jones's face was staring out of newspaper ads for Instant Finance for years, so he was appealing to the financially-challenged of South Auckland and every other relatively low income community in NZ with that, whoring a product which would I guess charge high interest rates.

Although it's possible that none of us would be swayed by it and go and eat a brieockery burger by the ad just because it features Manu, Koni and Bull, as sure as heck there are gonna be thousands out there who would be and who'll use it as some kind of excuse not to improve their eating habits.

I went and found the ad on YouTube - it's funny, especially Koni's subtle eyebrow raise after Danger interjects. And does Manu have a big mouth or what? Amazing...

But it's designed to make the viewer believe that eating that particular kind of junk food is approved of 100% by guys who are peak athletes. Not just OK'd by some PI's, but PI's who are peak athletes. Raurimu Massive, you've got a good point.

I don't think the 'making out they're stupid' argument is valid, though. There are countless ads where 'stupid' Dad (who 'naturally' only wants chips) is served up something new by 'inventive' Mum, in which Mum and Dad are both white. If a way, this ad is on a par with those.

 

[smc]

Oh yes they are.

And Stacey Jones's face was staring out of newspaper ads for Instant Finance for years, so he was appealing to the financially-challenged of South Auckland and every other relatively low income community in NZ with that, whoring a product which would I guess charge high interest rates.

Although it's possible that none of us would be swayed by it and go and eat a brieockery burger by the ad just because it features Manu, Koni and Bull, as sure as heck there are gonna be thousands out there who would be and who'll use it as some kind of excuse not to improve their eating habits.

I went and found the ad on YouTube - it's funny, especially Koni's subtle eyebrow raise after Danger interjects. And does Manu have a big mouth or what? Amazing...

But it's designed to make the viewer believe that eating that particular kind of junk food is approved of 100% by guys who are peak athletes. Not just OK'd by some PI's, but PI's who are peak athletes. Raurimu Massive, you've got a good point.

I don't think the 'making out they're stupid' argument is valid, though. There are countless ads where 'stupid' Dad (who 'naturally' only wants chips) is served up something new by 'inventive' Mum, in which Mum and Dad are both white. If a way, this ad is on a par with those.

Care to point me in the direction of anything showing warriors/instant finance connection, I thought there was some link between them but not mentioned on either companies website seems strange to me.

You say Jones has been advertising for instant finance for years, I thought it was something he took up after he finished playing, a deal between Jones and Instant Finance not a warriors sponsorship thing. Don't get me wrong I think the guys a right fuck wit for doing it, and the company is a fucking disgrace the way the operate.

Still don't really give a toss about the hamburgers, I just think the ads are shit, somewhat embarrassing for all involved, so much so you have to laugh at it.
The burgers are approved by peak athletes, PIs, whites and aboriginals.
They're not saying eat the shit all the time any more than they're saying drink 24 lion reds, drive your suzuki to the casino, leave the kids in the car while you spend the weeks budget on the pokies just because they sponsor them.
Yeah some people will go overboard on the burgers, beers or gambling but thats really not the warriors fault.

As for the stupid people in ads, it seems to be a growing trend to portray men as complete morons in ads. Put a women in the stupid role and the feminist army will completely lose their shit.

 

[¿N. ig-mah¿]

It all seems a lot like sugar tax talk to me. People need to develop personal responsibility. The only way we will ever stop the obesity epidemic is to ban fast food or make it so expensive that no one can afford it. Then there will be complaints that the fast food companies are elitist and make it impossible for the poor to occassionally treat themselves. The only way to stop parents from causing their kids to get fat is to take dietary control away. That will never happen, either.

I guarantee making Coke dearer than water will do nothing to stop bad dietary choices. People will be lazy parents regardless of what others do. Advertising doesn't cause the problems, excuses do.