General Warriors Season 2014 Discussion
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So he'll be a winger who won't actually play fullback until all other options are decimated by injuries?
mt.wellington
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But Dallin Watene-Zelezniak has his head screwed on bigtime. Good kid from a really humble family. The only concern is whether he takes time off to do a mission. Gould is a huge fan and apparently offered him a 10 year contract???
mt.wellington
Warriors Orange Peeler
Dane Nielsen is Danger or Crab.
Jacob Lillyman is Big Dingo or Bull. He is mostly called Bull.
Team manager Dan Floyd is mostly called Dingo...
I just thought about Dallin Watene-Zelezniak too. In my opinion he will develop into a better player than Locke. Lockey hasn't really kicked on sadly. Penrith got a heap young fast elusive backs coming through. I'd save the money I was prepared to spend on Locke and invest in them.
Inruin
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There was also this article last year. He may not kick on, but if he does we're looking pretty good for a fullback in the future between Dallin Watene-Zelezniak, Hoffman, Locke and even Beale.
Sounds like Dane is playing:
https://www.warriors.co.nz/news/2014/03/09/nrl_preview_no_changes_.html
https://www.warriors.co.nz/news/2014/03/09/nrl_preview_no_changes_.html
Sweet first up game, here's an article:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11216825
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11216825
I'm not surprised our sports journalists getting their facts wrong. It's usually quite funny how the players ignore the incorrect fact and carry on answering the question.
The debate at the moment with the All Blacks not performing in Super Rugby people bring up the NRL players needing to perform week in week out (well Warriors being the exception
). Mark Richardson's argument on Radio Sport was that all of the NRL players start the pre-season at the same time compared to the union players who come back and different times due to the end of year tests.Didn't the Warriors start the pre-season with only 6 players?
The Union guys have a long season and at the end of the year and play more of a variety of opponents due to union being played in more countries. But the league guys are usually in England playing tests at a similar time and probably finish at a similar time due to when the NRL and Super League seasons finish. Last year the World Cup finished a week after the All Blacks last test.
Mark Richardson brought this up again with Nathan Friend who ignored the union part and compared when our players came back against the other NRL clubs. Probably the best way to deal with it.
Robbie Rakete isnt a sports journalist, hes a tv presenter (used to do kids shows) that got a job on the radio as a dj.I'm not surprised our sports journalists getting their facts wrong. It's usually quite funny how the players ignore the incorrect fact and carry on answering the question.
The debate at the moment with the All Blacks not performing in Super Rugby people bring up the NRL players needing to perform week in week out (well Warriors being the exception
Didn't the Warriors start the pre-season with only 6 players?
The Union guys have a long season and at the end of the year and play more of a variety of opponents due to union being played in more countries. But the league guys are usually in England playing tests at a similar time and probably finish at a similar time due to when the NRL and Super League seasons finish. Last year the World Cup finished a week after the All Blacks last test.
Mark Richardson brought this up again with Nathan Friend who ignored the union part and compared when our players came back against the other NRL clubs. Probably the best way to deal with it.
* post moved from wrong thread*
I think a lot of what's happened with our team is multi layered and you could spend a day picking it apart.
I don't think it's uncorrectable this year. I would Like some of the competition for spots intensified in the Forwards in the same way it has been with the Fullback position.
There are two competitions , the NRL and ESL with opportunities for astute signings , and we've seen our club try to go for Fensom so there is a will in our management to look externally. I'll spare people the ESL plug , other than to say they have a lot of good aggressive players, in their top forward packs, and on the international stage, no one could question that they hold their own against the rest.
There is a will and a gate way opened since Tomkins came here on an early release to go out and get someone good . experienced , highly rated, from the same competition tomorrow....as ramraider posted , there are also lots of rejigs for fowards between Australian clubs coming up.
We have two fullbacks not playing fullback in a competition full of decent forwards and short on Fullbacks. This year we are in a stronger position to do something about that imbalance.
We saw in the Eels game our pack Mentally dominated , out competed, but it didn't end there....the 'out enthused' problem pervaded across the park.
Not everyone was mentally off in that game.
Sam Rapira showed up to play. He sent the first runner from the field , our tails looked up...our boys looked fired up.....Carlos leaks like a sieve......the whole team is sprinting back to recover fifty meters of lost ground.
Our forwards try to run straight.....the Eels Markers can see Friend passing without taking a step and offering variation.....they race out and cut down the Warriors forwards on the advantage line......one of those suicide straight runs saw Matulino chopped down hard around the legs, he wasn't running like a poof.....the tackler bounced off.....but as he fell his mate had time to finish Matulino off.
In the modern game , I don't care how big your forwards are.....if their hookers delivery from Dummy half is readable , they'll get Murdered by fired up teams.
The secound time the Eels have the ball , they go at Carlos and score at the other end of the field , heads drop , lungs are burning , deep seated post Warriors traumatic stress disorder kicks in....we have to rely on people like Mannering and Vatuvei to play like looneys to hang in there. It gets worse when those men drop balls and Afro man drops his balls.
Before we write our team off , lets pray Leuluai offers variation at the ruck for our forwards to run off lets hope when we have centers who can tackle and form partnerships with wingers....that we will see the forwards just getting on with their jobs.
I like the way Charlie Gub plays, he looks the goods. There are people with big question marks over their heads , Gub should be pushing them out of the team.
Lastly, Friend is an admirable player, Godinet comes on....different hooker......variation at dummy half.....the go forward has the illusion of speeding up ( really they are running at Marker defenders in two minds ) the Warriors start winning periods and momentum in games.
Feleti is another kettle of fish..... Looks like Sonny Bill in the preseason, plays like an Eel in round one. Lets hope he has that out of his system. If I were his coach.....I'd be tempted to say....keep that up and you won't be here to attend the next Eel reunion as a Warrior.
The best thing about this year is we get another go at the Tigers / Eels / Dragons / type sides......if we fail to beat them at least one out of two, then the Owners will be out on a buying spree in the offseason ( New Coach , New playing roster they would have no other choice ).
I think a lot of what's happened with our team is multi layered and you could spend a day picking it apart.
I don't think it's uncorrectable this year. I would Like some of the competition for spots intensified in the Forwards in the same way it has been with the Fullback position.
There are two competitions , the NRL and ESL with opportunities for astute signings , and we've seen our club try to go for Fensom so there is a will in our management to look externally. I'll spare people the ESL plug , other than to say they have a lot of good aggressive players, in their top forward packs, and on the international stage, no one could question that they hold their own against the rest.
There is a will and a gate way opened since Tomkins came here on an early release to go out and get someone good . experienced , highly rated, from the same competition tomorrow....as ramraider posted , there are also lots of rejigs for fowards between Australian clubs coming up.
We have two fullbacks not playing fullback in a competition full of decent forwards and short on Fullbacks. This year we are in a stronger position to do something about that imbalance.
We saw in the Eels game our pack Mentally dominated , out competed, but it didn't end there....the 'out enthused' problem pervaded across the park.
Not everyone was mentally off in that game.
Sam Rapira showed up to play. He sent the first runner from the field , our tails looked up...our boys looked fired up.....Carlos leaks like a sieve......the whole team is sprinting back to recover fifty meters of lost ground.
Our forwards try to run straight.....the Eels Markers can see Friend passing without taking a step and offering variation.....they race out and cut down the Warriors forwards on the advantage line......one of those suicide straight runs saw Matulino chopped down hard around the legs, he wasn't running like a poof.....the tackler bounced off.....but as he fell his mate had time to finish Matulino off.
In the modern game , I don't care how big your forwards are.....if their hookers delivery from Dummy half is readable , they'll get Murdered by fired up teams.
The secound time the Eels have the ball , they go at Carlos and score at the other end of the field , heads drop , lungs are burning , deep seated post Warriors traumatic stress disorder kicks in....we have to rely on people like Mannering and Vatuvei to play like looneys to hang in there. It gets worse when those men drop balls and Afro man drops his balls.
Before we write our team off , lets pray Leuluai offers variation at the ruck for our forwards to run off lets hope when we have centers who can tackle and form partnerships with wingers....that we will see the forwards just getting on with their jobs.
I like the way Charlie Gub plays, he looks the goods. There are people with big question marks over their heads , Gub should be pushing them out of the team.
Lastly, Friend is an admirable player, Godinet comes on....different hooker......variation at dummy half.....the go forward has the illusion of speeding up ( really they are running at Marker defenders in two minds ) the Warriors start winning periods and momentum in games.
Feleti is another kettle of fish..... Looks like Sonny Bill in the preseason, plays like an Eel in round one. Lets hope he has that out of his system. If I were his coach.....I'd be tempted to say....keep that up and you won't be here to attend the next Eel reunion as a Warrior.
The best thing about this year is we get another go at the Tigers / Eels / Dragons / type sides......if we fail to beat them at least one out of two, then the Owners will be out on a buying spree in the offseason ( New Coach , New playing roster they would have no other choice ).
Not 100% sure where to post this one:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11219499
New Warriors recruit Sam Tomkins will provide exclusive content for the New Zealand Herald in the upcoming months, giving readers a unique insight into his life as a professional sports person, a newcomer to New Zealand, and as a Vodafone Warrior.
Tomkins has been signed on as a brand ambassador for the Herald with the media company extending its sponsorship with the club until the end of the 2016 NRL season.
In a joint announcement APN NZ CEO Martin Simons and Vodafone Warriors chief executive Wayne Scurrah said they were excited about continuing a partnership which began in 2006.
Simons said he was thrilled with the Herald's on-going position as major sponsor and official media partner, adding the relationship continued to offer great value to the Herald and its readers.
"Renewing our sponsorship is the natural progression for our long and proud relationship with the club," he said.
"Going forward we are focused on providing our readers with even better access to content and experiences with the team".
Tomkins will front the New Zealand Herald's new marketing campaign showcasing the key benefit of the relationship: "The Herald gets you closer."
Tomkins said he was really excited about working with the New Zealand Herald to give an insight into the world of professional rugby league.
"I hope to bring the readers closer to the players and the team and help us to get closer to Vodafone Warriors members and fans."
Simons said the Warriors' heavy involvement in the community and their work and commitment on and off the field made them the perfect partner organisation.
Scurrah said the Vodafone Warriors looked forward to working with the Herald to further enhance their relationship.
"It's terrific that we've been able to extend our partnership with APN through the New Zealand Herald, the Herald on Sunday and its digital properties," he said.
"Between us we have some exciting plans and concepts as we work together to further develop and maximise the value of our association.
"There are enormous benefits in what is an extremely important sponsorship area for both partners."
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11219499
New Warriors recruit Sam Tomkins will provide exclusive content for the New Zealand Herald in the upcoming months, giving readers a unique insight into his life as a professional sports person, a newcomer to New Zealand, and as a Vodafone Warrior.
Tomkins has been signed on as a brand ambassador for the Herald with the media company extending its sponsorship with the club until the end of the 2016 NRL season.
In a joint announcement APN NZ CEO Martin Simons and Vodafone Warriors chief executive Wayne Scurrah said they were excited about continuing a partnership which began in 2006.
Simons said he was thrilled with the Herald's on-going position as major sponsor and official media partner, adding the relationship continued to offer great value to the Herald and its readers.
"Renewing our sponsorship is the natural progression for our long and proud relationship with the club," he said.
"Going forward we are focused on providing our readers with even better access to content and experiences with the team".
Tomkins will front the New Zealand Herald's new marketing campaign showcasing the key benefit of the relationship: "The Herald gets you closer."
Tomkins said he was really excited about working with the New Zealand Herald to give an insight into the world of professional rugby league.
"I hope to bring the readers closer to the players and the team and help us to get closer to Vodafone Warriors members and fans."
Simons said the Warriors' heavy involvement in the community and their work and commitment on and off the field made them the perfect partner organisation.
Scurrah said the Vodafone Warriors looked forward to working with the Herald to further enhance their relationship.
"It's terrific that we've been able to extend our partnership with APN through the New Zealand Herald, the Herald on Sunday and its digital properties," he said.
"Between us we have some exciting plans and concepts as we work together to further develop and maximise the value of our association.
"There are enormous benefits in what is an extremely important sponsorship area for both partners."
I was wondering when something like this was going to happen - Tomkins had quite a few major media commitments in the UK - his own TV series, newspaper columns, etc - and no doubt he was going to be looking (or indeed offered) to do that kind of work, over here. Great for the club all-round.
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I wonder if that means they will put more effort into getting their facts right?
