General Warriors Salary Cap Discussion

The Batman

The Batman

Good question. I've been trying to put our squad together to see how many spots we have left but can't seem to do it.

The 'Football Profiles' page on the Warriors website has 29 players under the 'Telstra Premiership' tab (which at first I assumed was the first grade squad), however it's still missing a few players that we've already signed (Blair, Hiku, Beale and Harris). This tells me that there must be second tier players and/or development players on the list as well.

Figuring out who has what kind of contract is beyond me.

I was previously of the belief that we still had spots left for two forwards, thereby filling the vacancies left by Sipley and Thompson. Thouogh I've since stopped counting as that was an eternity ago and i got sick of waiting around for recruitment news. So anyone's guess is as good as mine.

Off the top of my head it went something like this...
Hoffman > Harris
Gubb > Pulu
Lillyman > Paasi
Matulino > Blair
Ogden > Love-Henry
Sipley >
Thompson >

Someone can correct me if I've made a mistake I honestly don't remember too well.

To answer your other questions:

I don't think it's too late. In fact I think holding out is a good way to go, there are often mid-season or last minute transfers which occur due to cap restrictions.

Given there are a few clubs 'supposedly' over the cap (dogs, raiders) I think we can assume this to be the case. There was talk previously in the year that there'd be a fire-sale of players being released once the cap was finalized. This hasn't really occurred but might still be on the cards.

And yes I think we do have the cap. So far we've probably spent as much money (maybe a tiny bit more) on our new players as was made available by our departing players. With the increase in salary cap I think we've still got a bit of space to move.

Pat Sipley/ Chris Satae has effectively replaced Tof, Joe Vuna has been upgraded to NRL squad.


Hoffman > Harris
Gubb > Pulu
Lillyman > Paasi
Matulino > Blair
Ogden > Joe Vuna
Sipley > Pat Sipley/ Chris Satae

Thompson >Love-Henry
 
ttkk19

ttkk19

Pat Sipley/ Chris Satae has effectively replaced Tof, Joe Vuna has been upgraded to NRL squad.


Hoffman > Harris
Gubb > Pulu
Lillyman > Paasi
Matulino > Blair
Ogden > Joe Vuna
Sipley > Pat Sipley/ Chris Satae

Thompson >Love-Henry

Oh nice. So Sipley and Satae are on first-grade contracts now or was Tof on a second tier?

Vuna's an interesting one, thought for sure he'd be one of our development players. The club must think he's close to FG. It'll be interesting to see how he goes in the trials, haven't seen too much of him.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: YeahNah 4020
fizurg

fizurg

This is probably a bit left field but I wonder if the timing of the salary cap changes hurt our recruitment.
Most new coaches being with them players from their last squad. But Kearney’s first year with us was the year before the changes and very few players were off contract. By the time the salary cap was sorted any “team on the rise” shine we had, had truly worn off and no one would want to come here. Even if they did rate our new coach.
 
Miket12

Miket12

My point is - they would have known about Ata wanting to go for some time, it would have been better if they had simply done this deal earlier.
Each club is only allowed a certain number of contracted players - unfortunately, the club needs space to bring in new players. Just because Ata was unhappy, doesn’t mean they can sign on another player until a space becomes available - I.e. Ata leaves. The Warriors would have been looking at other options - they just could sign someone until Ata left.
 
WellingtonOrca

WellingtonOrca

Weird in all this talk of singing new utility cover and FB prospect Perham promoted that they haven't said anything about Cherrington and Santo? Both supposedly on contracts for this year and they cover those positions.

Plus the Warriors website now culled Ata from the team list, but still has 39 players listed without adding Karl Lawton, but they're only allowed 30 + 6 development players so there are definitely some getting cut.
 
Miket12

Miket12

The Warriors website now culled Ata from the team list, but still has 39 players listed without adding Karl Lawton, but they're only allowed 30 + 6 development players so there are definitely some getting cut.
I've asked around about that - some who are listed with the FG squad are only on NSWarriors contracts and may be upgraded to FG contracts before the season starts or dropped back to only appear on the NSWarriors squad page. A suggestion was also made that there's still space for one more potential signing in the last minute scramble as the other NRL clubs finalise their squads and the salary cap. Sounds as if some clubs are still over the cap.
 
fizurg

fizurg

I wonder if Roach can suddenly be put on an NSW cup contract for the rest of the season? It may not take his salary out of our cap but could at least free up a spot in the 30 players allowed.
 
mt.wellington

mt.wellington

Warriors Orange Peeler
Contributor
I wonder if Roach can suddenly be put on an NSW cup contract for the rest of the season? It may not take his salary out of our cap but could at least free up a spot in the 30 players allowed.
Doubt it. He's been signed on a 1st Grade contract and I don't know how the club would go about undoing that. Unless the new rules allow for it?

razzrillinger did the clubs ever release their top 30 as required by the NRL yet???
 
  • Like
Reactions: bruce and fizurg
fizurg

fizurg

Doubt it. He's been signed on a 1st Grade contract and I don't know how the club would go about undoing that. Unless the new rules allow for it?

razzrillinger did the clubs ever release their top 30 as required by the NRL yet???

Does it state in a contract if it is a first grade contract? I can understand how that would happen under the older system where there was a second tier but under the new system I wouldn’t have thought that would be needed.
 
razzrillinger

razzrillinger

Doubt it. He's been signed on a 1st Grade contract and I don't know how the club would go about undoing that. Unless the new rules allow for it?

razzrillinger did the clubs ever release their top 30 as required by the NRL yet???

The clubs had to finalise a 29 man squad by March 1st (yesterday).

They don't have to add a 30th player until June 30.

I haven't seen the squads posted anywhere though (don't recall it being visible to us in previous years either which is annoying).
 

Lolohea2

Warriors Top 30

Bunty Afoa
Blake Ashford
Gerard Beale
James Bell
Adam Blair
Manaia Cherrington
David Futitu’a
James Gavet
Anthony Gelling
Blake Green
Tohu Harris
Peta Hiku
Shaun Johnson
Solomone Kata
Karl Lawton
Mason Lino
Sam Lisone
Issac Luke
Simon Mannering
Ken Maumalo
Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad
Agnatius Paasi
Isaiah Papalii
Leivaha Pulu
Nathaniel Roache
Zac Santo
Ligi Sao
Jazz Tevaga
Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
Albert Vete

Fringe NRL Players

Sam Cook
Matiu Love-Henry
Junior Pauga
Chris Satae
Pat Sipley
Johnny Tuivasa-Sheck

Development Players

Chanel Harris-Tavita
Hayze Perham

Intrust Super Premiership (TBC)

Sione Afemui
Lewis Soosemea
Joseph Vuna
King Vuniyawa
 
WellingtonOrca

WellingtonOrca

Don't believe "Fringe NRL player" is an official designation & Sam cook's been named to play this week so that means he has to be in the Top 30 doesn't it? Hayze Perham was also mentioned as being "upgraded" at the same time as Cook, so that would imply he's no longer on a development contract. Also JTS was explicitly named as being on a reserve grade contract only so is ineligible to play first grade.
 
  • Like
Reactions: fizurg and Marley
Vancent

Vancent

🫣
Contributor
Each club only need to name 29 with the final spot to be declared by June.
 
Stalefish540

Stalefish540

Warriors Recruitment Manager
Contributor
They ever release the top 30 list???
I've been looking for a few weeks to find out if Perham was in it, but no luck. The list above looks correct except maybe

Cook - Cherrington
Satae - Bell
Perham - Santo

I would be surprised if Bell the ISP captain wasn't in the top 30 over Perham??
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

mt.wellington
Replies
12
Views
1K
Horriors2013
Horriors2013
mt.wellington
Replies
6
Views
538
tajhay
tajhay
1995Warriorsfan
Replies
323
Views
32K
mt.wellington
mt.wellington
Replies
19
Views
1K
bruce
bruce
Toookey
Replies
53
Views
4K
Brother Faisal
Brother Faisal