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But don't you know nig that teams these days don't know how to structure their attack without the waterboy running behind him.
If we sack the trainer, who will scream out to Shaun Johnson "Kick to Manu, Kick to Manu!"
mt.wellington
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How the Warriors iced Iro
The fact that Iro has quit without a job to go to speaks volumes.
It's not over-stating matters to call Tony Iro's decision to leave the Warriors 'The Tragedy Of Tony'.
The fact that Iro has quit without a job to go to speaks volumes - and underlines again the task ahead of the Warriors management and new coach Matt Elliott. It also speaks to the way the club handles such matters.
Much of what happened with Iro is covered by the dense layer of privacy which blankets employer-employee relationships. But Iro is said to be leaving the club not because he has been wooed away by a job elsewhere or the enhanced salary and prospects that go with being a head coach.
It's understood he is leaving because he is unhappy with how the club has treated him in the process of finding a new coach to replace Brian McClennan, sacked with two games to go last season.
It's further understood that Iro, for family reasons, is tending towards staying in New Zealand and may win a role with the New Zealand Rugby League to go along with his position as assistant coach of the Kiwis.
Offers from Australian NRL clubs and UK clubs remain on the table but no deal has been struck.
That rachets matters right back to the Warriors and their handling of the succession of McClennan. Consider the following, gained from sources close to the action:
• The Warriors nailed their colours to the mast early on, proclaiming that they would be bringing a "marquee coach" to the club. Iro, though good judges of horse flesh rate him an outstanding coach in the making, respected and liked by the Warriors players, was not publicly rated as such. So, from the outset, the club made it clear that he was not foremost in their thoughts.
• Iro was interviewed for the head coach job early in the process but then it is believed he existed in an information-free zone for weeks afterwards. Speculation was rife about possible "marquee" coaches but Iro's name was rarely mentioned and he had no contact from the club. It was another signal.
• So was Iro being handed the coaching reins for the Warriors' last two games of the season after McClennan had gone - when a disaffected, underperforming squad in disarray and under highly critical public pressure went down 38-6 to the Dragons and 42-22 to the Raiders. Few coaches could prosper in such circumstances but the club appeared to use that as justification for Iro's non-selection.
• It is understood Iro found out about Elliott's appointment from the media. Attempts were made to get hold of Iro hours before the press conference to announce Eliott's appointment but Iro was then in Queensland with the Kiwis, preparing for the one-off test match against the Kangaroos on October 13.
All of this tends to suggest to the person in question that he might not be as desired as he had hoped. In fact, you'd have to be blind, deaf and dumb not to see that the club was effectively holding up a large, metaphorical sign saying: "Not valued". The Warriors apparently tried to make a late bid to keep Iro but, allegedly disillusioned by his treatment and the process, he decided to go. One report - could it have been leaked by the Warriors? - made it sound like Iro had rejected an improved offer from the club early in the piece, rather than only after all the above had taken place.
If the Warriors wanted to keep Iro, here's how they could have handled matters so everything and everybody was up front: "Hi Tony, we wanted to talk to you about the coaching job. We've decided to go elsewhere but we want you to know how highly we value your services and how much we want you to stay on as assistant to the new coach - and here's a bonus and/or a renegotiated contract to demonstrate how much we think you can offer and the job we want you to do with the players and in helping to coach ... ".
If Iro had demurred, he could have been managed out at that point. Instead, he got handed a poisoned chalice and then a long period of silence after he drank from it.
If a coaching clean-out was required - not unknown in such circumstances so a new coach can get his own people in - then do it quickly and up front. Keeping Iro in limbo for so long appears to have cemented his feeling he wasn't wanted.
Professional sport is a harsh master. Success can be elusive and the door to the car park can be opened quickly and ruthlessly. Ask Craig Walker, the high performance manager at the club who appears to have been made a partial scapegoat for the players' lack of performance and fitness under McClennan. He's since been picked up by the Roosters - not normally known for their ability to appoint lemons.
But if the players wanted Iro, the club wanted Iro and Elliott wanted Iro, why is he leaving?
It's not known what his relationship with Warriors CEO Wayne Scurrah is like, though Scurrah has been saying publicly how much he and the club wanted Iro to stay.
Under his watch, the club has appointed Dean Bell as GM of football operations and Elliott as head coach, neither of whom can be described as "marquee"appointments, no matter how much gloss is applied to what might be called a "Matt" finish.
The contention that Elliott was the man they'd always wanted is interesting when balanced against the Warriors' undoubted pursuit of Melbourne super-coach Craig Bellamy and reports they also romanced Cronulla Sharks coach Shane Flanagan. There were suggestions they offered twice his current salary before Flanagan ruled himself out for contractural and other reasons.
In the Ivan Cleary regime, the power base of the club was Cleary, director of football John Hart, Scurrah, Iro, Bell, juniors coach John Ackland and Walker - a tight bunch who worked well together.
With Iro's departure, the survivors are Bell - in an enhanced capacity - and Ackland. Scurrah clearly sits at the head of that new structure.
by Paul Lewis https://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10844948
The fact that Iro has quit without a job to go to speaks volumes.
It's not over-stating matters to call Tony Iro's decision to leave the Warriors 'The Tragedy Of Tony'.
The fact that Iro has quit without a job to go to speaks volumes - and underlines again the task ahead of the Warriors management and new coach Matt Elliott. It also speaks to the way the club handles such matters.
Much of what happened with Iro is covered by the dense layer of privacy which blankets employer-employee relationships. But Iro is said to be leaving the club not because he has been wooed away by a job elsewhere or the enhanced salary and prospects that go with being a head coach.
It's understood he is leaving because he is unhappy with how the club has treated him in the process of finding a new coach to replace Brian McClennan, sacked with two games to go last season.
It's further understood that Iro, for family reasons, is tending towards staying in New Zealand and may win a role with the New Zealand Rugby League to go along with his position as assistant coach of the Kiwis.
Offers from Australian NRL clubs and UK clubs remain on the table but no deal has been struck.
That rachets matters right back to the Warriors and their handling of the succession of McClennan. Consider the following, gained from sources close to the action:
• The Warriors nailed their colours to the mast early on, proclaiming that they would be bringing a "marquee coach" to the club. Iro, though good judges of horse flesh rate him an outstanding coach in the making, respected and liked by the Warriors players, was not publicly rated as such. So, from the outset, the club made it clear that he was not foremost in their thoughts.
• Iro was interviewed for the head coach job early in the process but then it is believed he existed in an information-free zone for weeks afterwards. Speculation was rife about possible "marquee" coaches but Iro's name was rarely mentioned and he had no contact from the club. It was another signal.
• So was Iro being handed the coaching reins for the Warriors' last two games of the season after McClennan had gone - when a disaffected, underperforming squad in disarray and under highly critical public pressure went down 38-6 to the Dragons and 42-22 to the Raiders. Few coaches could prosper in such circumstances but the club appeared to use that as justification for Iro's non-selection.
• It is understood Iro found out about Elliott's appointment from the media. Attempts were made to get hold of Iro hours before the press conference to announce Eliott's appointment but Iro was then in Queensland with the Kiwis, preparing for the one-off test match against the Kangaroos on October 13.
All of this tends to suggest to the person in question that he might not be as desired as he had hoped. In fact, you'd have to be blind, deaf and dumb not to see that the club was effectively holding up a large, metaphorical sign saying: "Not valued". The Warriors apparently tried to make a late bid to keep Iro but, allegedly disillusioned by his treatment and the process, he decided to go. One report - could it have been leaked by the Warriors? - made it sound like Iro had rejected an improved offer from the club early in the piece, rather than only after all the above had taken place.
If the Warriors wanted to keep Iro, here's how they could have handled matters so everything and everybody was up front: "Hi Tony, we wanted to talk to you about the coaching job. We've decided to go elsewhere but we want you to know how highly we value your services and how much we want you to stay on as assistant to the new coach - and here's a bonus and/or a renegotiated contract to demonstrate how much we think you can offer and the job we want you to do with the players and in helping to coach ... ".
If Iro had demurred, he could have been managed out at that point. Instead, he got handed a poisoned chalice and then a long period of silence after he drank from it.
If a coaching clean-out was required - not unknown in such circumstances so a new coach can get his own people in - then do it quickly and up front. Keeping Iro in limbo for so long appears to have cemented his feeling he wasn't wanted.
Professional sport is a harsh master. Success can be elusive and the door to the car park can be opened quickly and ruthlessly. Ask Craig Walker, the high performance manager at the club who appears to have been made a partial scapegoat for the players' lack of performance and fitness under McClennan. He's since been picked up by the Roosters - not normally known for their ability to appoint lemons.
But if the players wanted Iro, the club wanted Iro and Elliott wanted Iro, why is he leaving?
It's not known what his relationship with Warriors CEO Wayne Scurrah is like, though Scurrah has been saying publicly how much he and the club wanted Iro to stay.
Under his watch, the club has appointed Dean Bell as GM of football operations and Elliott as head coach, neither of whom can be described as "marquee"appointments, no matter how much gloss is applied to what might be called a "Matt" finish.
The contention that Elliott was the man they'd always wanted is interesting when balanced against the Warriors' undoubted pursuit of Melbourne super-coach Craig Bellamy and reports they also romanced Cronulla Sharks coach Shane Flanagan. There were suggestions they offered twice his current salary before Flanagan ruled himself out for contractural and other reasons.
In the Ivan Cleary regime, the power base of the club was Cleary, director of football John Hart, Scurrah, Iro, Bell, juniors coach John Ackland and Walker - a tight bunch who worked well together.
With Iro's departure, the survivors are Bell - in an enhanced capacity - and Ackland. Scurrah clearly sits at the head of that new structure.
by Paul Lewis https://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10844948
mt.wellington
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Tony Iro left Mt. Smart and walked 100 metres down the road!
https://www.warriors.co.nz/news-display/Iro-takes-on-new-role-with-NZRL/66030
https://www.warriors.co.nz/news-display/Iro-takes-on-new-role-with-NZRL/66030
Pete
Is it just me or is the New Zealand Rugby League taking on a look of a bunch of mates who dont seem to be accountable for any results. I wonder who else interviewed for his role. Not saying that Iro doesnt deserve a position but I would be interested if it was just him on the list. WHen we got Bennet involved we had a World Cup Win. Now we seem back content to get close to Aus. I would like to see a decent list of what Tony Kemp has achieved in his role and what sort of salaries these guys are on for from the outside looking in it seems like money thrown away.
If you wanted to be interested about grass roots rugby league mate .... your more than welcome to be involved with your local club.
Then you would get an insight of some of the positive changes that have happened... and i hope continue to happen.
5 years ago .. they were a mess from all accounts.
Tony Kemp despite his radio apperance re: the likes has been a massive driver of the new setup.
I know they have like camps in the community camps, development camps (across country) and new national comps and new coaching courses etc.
Also I suppose the biggest part would be improving the image or rugby league. Hence why they have got so much praise of their turnaround.
NZRL have to drive the development of the game in NZ....
Hopefully for the Warriors and the Kiwis ... it wil mean even more talent (both players and coaches) available and ready to go at the next level.
Pete
Admittedly I based all that on gut feeling and had next to nothing to back it up. Ill take your word for it Slaughterhouse.
mt.wellington
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Slaughterhouse is right. If you think it is a mates club now, you should have seen it 3 years ago when the old boys club had the NZRL in such a shit hole the government had to send an independent review committee to see what was going on. The NZRL were in debt over their heads and there was every possibility that the NZRL organisation itself would have to declare bankruptcy! Excellent article written about it... https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/1402380/NZRL-board-agrees-to-report-changes
A huge rap must go to Tony Kemp but more importantly Jim Doyle who will be stepping down as NZRL CEO at the end of the year. Doyle was brought in to implement the proposals set out in the Anderson report and by in large he's done an excellent job. Junior numbers are up, local competitions that had long ceased or struggled are finally being better run and funded and the Secondary School League tournament is starting to make inroads into the 1st XV dominated Secondary School comp.
Its widely believed that Tony Kemp will take over Doyles job but they are doing a fair interview process, led by chairman Scott Carter, to find the best possible candidate. Tony Iro's role as High Proformance manager is well suited to a man of his experiance and I wouldnt be surprised to see him working with the development branch of the NZRL in some capacity.
Just like to finish off by thanking Jim Doyle for doing an excellent job in the 3 years he was there. There of course remains alot of work to do but he has definately got the ball rolling in the right direction. The future of NZ rugby league looks bright.
mt.wellington
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Interview about his new role at the NZRL and the reason he didnt take up the offer of assistant coach.
https://www.3news.co.nz/VIDEO-Full-...y-Iro/tabid/317/articleID/277406/Default.aspx
https://www.3news.co.nz/VIDEO-Full-...y-Iro/tabid/317/articleID/277406/Default.aspx
Dexter M
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Paul Lewis's article places Scurrah at the top of the tree of blame for the Warriors woes, right where that prick belongs.
Nigma gave an opinion on Bells Appointment .....along the lines that Bell was Scurrahs next fall guy. Some thought that was a bit conspiratory , well they are entitled to pooh pooh the idea , but the Iro got iced article paints Scurrah as exactly that kind of prick.
I hate my boss because she is a wanker , but I'm glad I'm not in the Scurrah Survivor series without an imunity Idol
Nigma gave an opinion on Bells Appointment .....along the lines that Bell was Scurrahs next fall guy. Some thought that was a bit conspiratory , well they are entitled to pooh pooh the idea , but the Iro got iced article paints Scurrah as exactly that kind of prick.
I hate my boss because she is a wanker , but I'm glad I'm not in the Scurrah Survivor series without an imunity Idol
I agree...but I dont even think it was purely old boys club that people like to over-simplify the situation..
But was nt it that idiot from Wellington..Chalmers, who seemed a little crazy tbh
He blew heaps of money and had ideas of starting a wellington team that competed in the ESL
I understand the danger of having an old boys club...but sometimes we do need genuine league experience
I am sure Holden already has a good understanding about Rugby League but naturally will need specific experience and advice about the game
ramraider78
Have to agree with you about most of what you said regarding the game in New Zealand being developed by NZRL, they have made in roads in the rural areas of the country.
Iro's appointment is a positive IMO he brings a bit to the table.
My only thing is the old boy club network is still alive in the background of league in NZRL and ARL around Auckland IMO. There have been some NZRL jobs given to people outside of the major centres of League ( Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch) and IMO they have been out of their depth in larger competitions. I just want to see how Holden handles the position and for how long he stays in there.
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ramraider78
I've heard nothing, but would love to see back in the local game next year, he's got heaps to offer.
mt.wellington
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I'd like to see him do what he should of done from the get go, become an assistant coach at NRL level. I think Bluey would be the first person to admit that he was abit out of his depth but like you say, he does have alot to offer. At the very least I fully expect to see him walking around the Mt. Albert or Hibiscus Coast teams. He wont be able to help himself, league is in his blood. Wish him all the best too and I just know we havent seen the last of him...
Well, the biggest old boy club in rugby league in New Zealand is ARL. - Auckland rugby league.
It is a complete jokes that the same old farts are running the game there.
I forgot the blokes name....the skinny girly (read something else lol) guy is still the CEO - since the 80s or 90s if i am right lol
what modern day organisation has a CEO for 15 years etc. Probably had the same chairman the whole time - scratching each others backs.
Local Auckland clubs are kidding themselves...they dont realise the power the wield - they dont understand governance and they could push people like that out
While the rest of the country, are pressured to perform - based on limited funding etc - i.e they are accountable
Auckland rugby league sit of craploads of money from carlaw park (clubs money) therefore just stay inefficient
NZRL established Counties Manukau Rugby League...who would operate on a shoe-string budget and already out perform ARL in South & East auckland
Yet from what I hear they are still trying to fight NZRL ....lol
mt.wellington
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Do you mean Chairman Cameron McGregor? Been the Chairman since 1998.
Cameron McGregor on the left
Nah, but from all reports this guy is a complete douche...and needs to go for the benefit of the game
If he has some knowledge/leadership to impart you think he would of already done so.
What would be his legacy?? to sell Carlaw Park
Or buy lots of pubs, to try and secure funding...lol
The guy I was talking about was or is the CEO ......very feminine
From all reports very shady and plenty of conflicts of interests over the years.
