4 of those 5 teams have taken premierships in the last 15 years or less. We made the finals of U18s, Reserves and 1st Grade in different years but couldn't win any of them. We got there on natural talent which we'll always be in with a chance of doing at any grade with Kiwi players, but couldn't get over the line, missed that extra something that gets the final result.
2 of the 5 of those teams dont play SG Ball.
In 03 Penrith won SG Ball in 04 1st grade was 4th
04 Nights won in 05 1st grade 15th
05 Canberra won in 06 1st grade 7th
06 Penrith won in 07 1st grade wooden spooners
07 Parra won 1st grade currently sits 13th
There doesnt seem to be any correlation good or bad between the success of the 2.
The Storm dont have a junior comp they have the Central coast Storm a Sydney based and run outfit which is really just half of the Bears and a feeder club in Queensland, how do you account for their success or the Broncos who had nothing to do with NSW competition and their junior programme has never been on the same level.