Support/Announcement Suicide Prevention/Mental Health

[tajhay]

Hi all,
In light of recent events, where a forum regular's partner committed suicide, and heard privately that another's partner has attempted, this is just a courtesy message to all who want to donate to spread awareness for mental health/suicide prevention.

Donate – I AM HOPE

For the last decade the I AM HOPE team have been giving mental health talks in schools and communities up and down Aotearoa. During this time we have engaged with over 300,000 youth and young people. These talks have been delivered free of charge and all costs are covered by the public and...

www.iamhope.org.nz

If you ever need to reach out or just talk, please connect with the community we have built here.

If there are other charitable organisations that help, please feel free to post the link on here. Be kind, as we don't always know what others are going through.

Much

 

[bruce]

A seriously underestimated problem. I don't know why.

 

[wizards rage]

I find this absolutely staggering:

The construction industry has the highest suicide numbers for any single sector in New Zealand. We are six times more likely to lose someone to suicide from our site than we are to a workplace accident."

What’s going on that is causing this? Why is it so bad particularly in the construction industry? Is the trend getting better or worse?

We pour HUGE money and resources into H&S. Shouldn’t more be channeled into the underlying issues around mental health?

Mates in Construction calls for more to be done to address suicide rate among construction workers

Sector has some of the highest suicide rates.

www.newshub.co.nz

 

[bruce]

A very interesting article from somebody who did not impress me that much:

Chloe Swarbrick on being queer, depression and starting a family

The Auckland Central MP has contributed to a new book along with other LQBTQIA+ Kiwis.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[Worried2Death]

A very interesting article from somebody who did not impress me that much:

Chloe Swarbrick on being queer, depression and starting a family

The Auckland Central MP has contributed to a new book along with other LQBTQIA+ Kiwis.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Very good piece, a lot of us can relate to this, regardless of politics.

"Drinking was an escape. It did get very bleak, and I was suicidal for a while and thought I was a psychopath. Two simple options emerged: either I was going to die or I was going to completely change my life. At the time I didn't know what changing my life would look like, but the awful depressing backstop was, if it didn't work out I could always just end it. That's a terribly dark motivation: that the worst thing that could happen couldn't be any worse than how life already was. I had no real support."

 

[bruce]

Very good piece, a lot of us can relate to this, regardless of politics.

What I liked was she had the courage to make it public. That was personal stuff that right wingers will have a field day on...in private...on things like messenger.

I applaud her for that, because it took genuine decency and guts. She was thinking of others who don't have the same coping mechanisms.

I have said to people there is one thing that makes red wine delicious, depression. It goes down like bloody water and makes the world rosy...until the morning comes.

I had a friend who committed suicide. He had always suffered from depression, but never talked abut it. When he finally died his friends were amazed at the pile of wine bottles in the house.

I wasn't.

 

[Gizzyfan]

Thank you every body for the kindness you have displayed over the last fortnight to me and mine. It has been tough, but I was told by Victim S.upport (who have been fantastic) just take one step at a time, do not rush anything.

Police, Ambulance, Paramedics, funeral directors were wonderful and very professional. Unfortunately they are practised in dealing with suicide. That is the problem, officially there is a reluctance to discuss the issue so Chloe Swarbrick and others opening up about it in print means that the LBGTQ is considered high risk, when the truth is although they do have a high risk this problem is all over society. I a m not lessening what she said and I applaud her for sharing but the conversation has to be bigger

If you see, or think someone you know is struggling, talk to them, a hug or hand on a shoulder and asking how they are doing can help. As the great comedian Robin Williams said before he committed suicide 'Everybody you meet is facing an inner battle you know nothing about'

Also do not try and blame, the decision was taken and carried out by one person. It is difficult as often, as in my case there is no explanation left behind ., I do not know whether there will ever be a resolution. Just be aware and look after one another.

 

[Noitall]

Thank you every body for the kindness you have displayed over the last fortnight to me and mine. It has been tough, but I was told by Victim S.upport (who have been fantastic) just take one step at a time, do not rush anything.

Police, Ambulance, Paramedics, funeral directors were wonderful and very professional. Unfortunately they are practised in dealing with suicide. That is the problem, officially there is a reluctance to discuss the issue so Chloe Swarbrick and others opening up about it in print means that the LBGTQ is considered high risk, when the truth is although they do have a high risk this problem is all over society. I a m not lessening what she said and I applaud her for sharing but the conversation has to be bigger

If you see, or think someone you know is struggling, talk to them, a hug or hand on a shoulder and asking how they are doing can help. As the great comedian Robin Williams said before he committed suicide 'Everybody you meet is facing an inner battle you know nothing about'

Also do not try and blame, the decision was taken and carried out by one person. It is difficult as often, as in my case there is no explanation left behind ., I do not know whether there will ever be a resolution. Just be aware and look after one another.

One day at a time bro. All you and your kids can do is to try and be there for one another. I hope time can heal but the question of why may never be answered for you all. Look after yourself mate.

 

[bruce]

Also do not try and blame, the decision was taken and carried out by one person.

I am not a psychologist but I think it goes like this.

Very often they are suffering from hidden demons like depression. Those demons can be overwhelming to the point the mind says if you were dead you wouldn't feel like this.

So suicide becomes an option. It probably has nothing to do with anybody else.

Demons are usually personal, except in cases like bullying or debt. I had a mate once took himself out. I had known him for over 20 years. He always seemed so laid back and friendly. I was talking to him a couple of hours before he did it. He seemed at peace with the world.

Obviously he had it planned. he knew he was going to a better place.

It was nobody's fault, nor his.

 

[defensivebomb]

Truly sorry to hear your news, gizzyfan.

Whenever I read or hear someone is going through depression or has taken their own life, I feel a kind of kinship with them. As if I can put myself in their shoes and appreciate the battles that they fight every day behind the facade. I’ve had my close relationships affected by these sorts of issues and it is such a complicated problem to solve but the very least we can do is be there with an open door and open ears

Hope you guys pick up the pieces and carry on. Can’t be easy but I hope you guys have all the support nearby that can help you through. Such a tragedy.

 

[Sup42]

Oh hell Gizzy.

You're a good man, I enjoy the thoughts you have shared with us all for many, man years.

Very sorry to hear your pain my freind.

Your respect for others, kindness, and thoughtfulness are a measure of your Mana.

Your loyalty to this club of ours, despite not seeing live games in person nor on the telly is the mark of a Warrior.

Keep the Korero coming ehoa, this place is better for having you here.

Big love to you and your people Gizzy.