Vancent
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Cheers Steve, with Gavet out - its like last weeks team with no heart.....
eric
Already half way through the season and he's made no real changes to a losing team. At what point is he going to try something else? This isn't an 82 game NBA season. You simply can't afford to persist with a losing side when there's only 24 games to be played.
4 more losses and that will be 12 for the year. At 12 wins and 12 losses (plus 2 byes) you would be on 28 points. Can anyone honestly see this team getting 7 more wins out of the last 11 games? God no. The season is hanging by a thread and he continues with the players that got the team to 12th spot on the ladder. If he's expecting more out of them, then he's more deluded than I thought.
4 more losses and that will be 12 for the year. At 12 wins and 12 losses (plus 2 byes) you would be on 28 points. Can anyone honestly see this team getting 7 more wins out of the last 11 games? God no. The season is hanging by a thread and he continues with the players that got the team to 12th spot on the ladder. If he's expecting more out of them, then he's more deluded than I thought.
Interesting to hear him say "I'm the one who has to make the hard decisions" in reference to picking his side ... So fuck'n make one is what I'd say to that if I could.
It does raise the question though, I read an interesting post on this thread around how much player power is at the club, with that in mind has he got the stones to drop a senior player, and if so what kind of backlash would it create bearing in mind this isn't the Kiwi's were talking about, these guys play together week in week out.
We're entering territory now where every game we lose where he hasn't made changes just builds more tension and knowing this club with it's mental fragility something is bound to snap.
The same thing happened last year around this time when things got hard and players weaknesses were exposed in a very public way.
I can sense another breaking point coming, whether that takes the shape of player's misbehaving or something else entirely who could say but only wins will prevent the pressure release valve blowing from here.
It does raise the question though, I read an interesting post on this thread around how much player power is at the club, with that in mind has he got the stones to drop a senior player, and if so what kind of backlash would it create bearing in mind this isn't the Kiwi's were talking about, these guys play together week in week out.
We're entering territory now where every game we lose where he hasn't made changes just builds more tension and knowing this club with it's mental fragility something is bound to snap.
The same thing happened last year around this time when things got hard and players weaknesses were exposed in a very public way.
I can sense another breaking point coming, whether that takes the shape of player's misbehaving or something else entirely who could say but only wins will prevent the pressure release valve blowing from here.
bruce
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My guess is that JD is continually questioning everybody's effectiveness. They will all have KPI's set in stone.
If I recall Wiki was inherited from the deal they did when they signed him as a player, so I don't know how JD views him. Having said that Wiki was a real Roger Tuivasa-Sheck type as a player, always did the extras and was a fearsome player to contend with, maybe less when he was playing for the Warriors, but then so was SK. Those two were team mates and my guess is if SK wants him he will stay.
Iro was always a very focused professional, unlike his brother who probably had more natural talent. He knows the Sydney scene backwards, and will have plenty of contacts there. He also speaks his mind and if I recall got dumped from SkyTV for criticising the Warriors management years back, I think during the Mick Watson era.
He was JD's appointment after Bell got the sack.
I don't think SK gives a flying feck about upsetting anybody in the squad. However JD has said many times we don't have the number of "professional" players we need at the club. That really reduces SK's chances of dropping people, if the replacement bombs out not from lack of trying but from inexperience at the top level he still has an under performing player, and maybe with less confidence than before.
Don't worry, Hoffman and Thompson are gone, and they know it. They should be playing for a contract somewhere else but they don't seem to be.
I think your both right and wrong, on the one hand I've heard Kearney say a number of times recently that he's concerned about the dropping players and the effect that'll have on the side and we're not talking about Gubb's & Vete here, we're talking senior guys.
Your right about who the coaches believe they can bring in, Stacey was on Radiosport after the loss to the Eels saying they felt they didn't have many options to bring into the side which is hard for anyone to hear.
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Mr Frank White
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Not like we are winning anyway, so what could it hurt?
Rather seem then lose with pride, than the current tripe..
mt.wellington
Warriors Orange Peeler
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New Stephen Kearney v2.0 thread is up and running guys. That has allowed us to add a poll which I think will be of interest to most of us...
https://www.nzwarriors.com/threads/stephen-kearney-v2-0.56882/
https://www.nzwarriors.com/threads/stephen-kearney-v2-0.56882/
AlexM
snake77
I watching that episode the other night. I weird statistic that he's played and coached the same amount of games for the club.
I didn't catch it all due to having to sort out the kids but his reasoning for leaving the club as a player was interesting. Came across as a guy that was goal orientated and wasn't going to achieve them here.
I didn't catch it all due to having to sort out the kids but his reasoning for leaving the club as a player was interesting. Came across as a guy that was goal orientated and wasn't going to achieve them here.
Noitall
Really enjoyed this episode, not the first from that era to mention how good Tony Tatupu was. You could see the huge admiration he has for Simon Mannering.
scree
I was quite interested in watching that but when I couldn't help notice the "y'know"'s my brain almost exploded... almost every second word in some sentences.
AlexM
A lot of his mantra transfers into his coaching... not a bad guy , but no personality lol
I m getting old but my memory of Mooks playing for the Warriors was he put in no bludging … if we had 5 other forwards like Mooks …..
I respect him Just think todays generation of footballers are different and some coaches methods don’t work with this current generation.
So player he was great.
As a coach not so great but certainly there would three Warriors coaches worse than Mooks
I respect him Just think todays generation of footballers are different and some coaches methods don’t work with this current generation.
So player he was great.
As a coach not so great but certainly there would three Warriors coaches worse than Mooks
matiunz
This year yet?
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Was one of my favourites early on, had a lethal combo going with Jones by the end. Major difference would be he could be a bit of a grub/hot head at times playing whereas he always seemed pretty calm and collected coaching
He was very good with the Kiwis as coach, he did however struggle as head coach with the warriors. Not too dissimilar to David Kidwell who is flourishing as an assistant coach and in particular coaching the Maori All Stars. Would not be surprised to see both of them involved in the Kiwis in fhe future or possibly as part of a new Kiwi franchise. I would doubt either of them would want to be head coaches again.
Beastmode
Just another day in paradise
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brightman
bruce
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Cannot see him being head coach again, don't know if that is what he is after, wonder if he comes back to the Warriors in some future role.
gREVUS
Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
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listening to the commentary and what was reportedly said by Nathan Cleary during the GF, it was interesting to note how much of SK philosophy on coaching was also being pushed by Ivan.
Things like Defense first. Next man up mentality, no special players. Players take accountability for other players. Learn your role till you quote it in your sleep.
I know he didnt always back the talk up with what he did. But i still somehow feel there is a coulda been in there.
Bit like when we lost Ivan, since then his replacements have been much worse.
Yes his team was boring to watch, but he always insisted they had to earn the right to play expansively. If only the warriors had got on board with this idea and earned it. Maybe it would be them winning every division of football one year and not the panthers.
