because he played with Cappy? (pure conjecture).
I was thinking more that it was just another example of a Cappy selection that I struggle to make sense of. Cappy seems to be incredibly risk averse - Hoffman as captain would appear on paper to be sensible however surely that's not the right decision if he has ongoing concussion issues.
 
I was thinking more that it was just another example of a Cappy selection that I struggle to make sense of. Cappy seems to be incredibly risk averse - Hoffman as captain would appear on paper to be sensible however surely that's not the right decision if he has ongoing concussion issues.

I would have thought Luke would have made sense (at least as an option). I know there is the whole thing about it being his first season in the club blah blah blah, but well, the Eels gave Foran the captaincy, Price walked straight into the captaincy, Campion was co-captain in his first season etc etc. Plus with Hoffman - a) he had injury issues and concussion issues, b) he'll probably be out for three games with SOO (although on current form that might not be the case).
 
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Geez that's not good to hear - if that's the case then it could explain a lot regarding his more recent form. It probably also raises questions around why a bloke with those sorts of issues was made captain.
Does it what, also why was he recruited if that was an issue?. His stats are poor, his performance is poor, and no matter what he is the team leader. It only takes one forward to be off his game and it affects the whole pack. He was another pre JD signing wasn't he?
 
Does it what, also why was he recruited if that was an issue?. His stats are poor, his performance is poor, and no matter what he is the team leader. It only takes one forward to be off his game and it affects the whole pack. He was another pre JD signing wasn't he?
I remember at the time of the signing the Mole was adamant that it was really bad recruitment - beyond the crazy salary we offered Hoffman it could have been that Moley had some good intel on his health - it wouldn't surprise me because unlike our media the bloke appears to be seriously well connected.
 
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For a guy who wasn't happy about the club. He's been put into a position to take ownership of it but man his form at the moment he probably should be getting called out himself or put under pressure. His form at the moment you really wonder how we are going to get another year out of him.

At the moment we would probably be better going with a backrow like the following when Sao comes back. Then maybe bring in RFM and bring Mannering back to the middle when Sao goes off or interchange Sao with another guy who can play in the middle.

11 Thompson
12 Mannering
13 Sao

The combination between Johnson and Thompson took a while to develop so maybe the combination of Robson and Hoffman will soon improve. But at the moment we are not seeing the hole running he is known for but instead just basic hit-ups where he is really looking pretty average.
 
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His form at the moment you really wonder how we are going to get another year out of him.
if he weren't the skipper his stats would have him under pressure to hold his spot in FG. Stats don't lie.
 
I remember at the time of the signing the Mole was adamant that it was really bad recruitment - beyond the crazy salary we offered Hoffman it could have been that Moley had some good intel on his health -
When JD was reported to be fuming about the contracts he inherited perhaps we were wrong to think it was just Mateo and Louisi.
 
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I still back Hoff as Captain, not shy to put my hand up - there's not many options in that captaincy department TBH. people have mentioned Luke, for the big name buy that he is, I haven't seen a return of investment yet (understandable about the family situation); I'm only concerned about the repeated concussions, he's had and wondering if's he's playing injured as well.

We've changed captains now and nothings happened, so his leadership isn't a problem IMO.
 
I was always on the fence about our captaincy situation - Mannering was too quiet but always lead from the front.

Hoffmans showing he's loud through his talking, but quiet through his walking so far this season.

Watching Manly-Sharks last night, I hope we are chasing Tom Symonds - I'd have him in our back-row over Hoffman right now. And Hoffman is only getting older...
 
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So when TL comes back in a couple of games, will he go in at 6? If so, there's no argument about Robbo and Shaun Johnson taking time to develop.
 
I am happy to put my hand up as someone who wants Hoffman as captain. After I watched Mannering kill the attack twice over the weekend I can try hard to see the positives of Hoffman becoming captain, but honestly the whole team has left me flat.. I am still happy that the team has a new captain. I still have hope. I think they are checking me into the asylum for a check up tomorrow
 
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I am happy to put my hand up as someone who wants Hoffman as captain. After I watched Mannering kill the attack twice over the weekend I can try hard to see the positives of Hoffman becoming captain, but honestly the whole team has left me flat.. I am still happy that the team has a new captain. I still have hope. I think they are checking me into the asylum for a check up tomorrow

have they got a spare bed? if we lose to the knights this weekend, I could use some time out with nice white padded walls and a straight jacket...
 
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have they got a spare bed? if we lose to the knights this weekend, I could use some time out with nice white padded walls and a straight jacket...
no straight jackets, but bruce looks great in a short mini skirt nurses uniform.
 
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I still back Hoff as Captain, not shy to put my hand up - there's not many options in that captaincy department TBH. people have mentioned Luke, for the big name buy that he is, I haven't seen a return of investment yet (understandable about the family situation); I'm only concerned about the repeated concussions, he's had and wondering if's he's playing injured as well.

We've changed captains now and nothings happened, so his leadership isn't a problem IMO.

Im just being a shit, again. I agree he's the only candidate. But that's pretty sad isn't it? Our only candidate is an over the hill second rower who's work rate has dropped drastically since donning the armband.
Ah well better him than Manu again.
 
Im just being a shit, again. I agree he's the only candidate. But that's pretty sad isn't it? Our only candidate is an over the hill second rower who's work rate has dropped drastically since donning the armband.
Ah well better him than Manu again.
Wasnt the only option. We could have gone down the path of other teams and supported Mannering with Matulino and Shaun Johnson. They are leaders in Forwards and Backs respectively anyway...would have been a recognition of that and putting some responsibility on their shoulders aswell...Shaun Johnson does a lot of media work anyway
 
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Im just being a shit, again. I agree he's the only candidate. But that's pretty sad isn't it? Our only candidate is an over the hill second rower who's work rate has dropped drastically since donning the armband.
Ah well better him than Manu again.

I wouldn't say his workrate has dropped drastically... his work at the weekend was approximately what he was churning out last season. I just don't know if he's doing enough defensive work...
 
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I wouldn't say his workrate has dropped drastically... his work at the weekend was approximately what he was churning out last season. I just don't know if he's doing enough defensive work...

Yeah I meant his work rate has gone from shit, to extra shit
 
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