Post Match [Round 19, 2021] - Rabbitohs vs Warriors Post Match Discussion

[Makasene]

Same old story really.

Pros: Otukolo looked good

Keen to hear your thoughts on him cos I'm wondering where that 3 year contract came from

 

[bruce]

So what's your point? It was a good team against a shit team would be better wording?

An expert can give some detail. The team was having a bad day at the office, the club is still rebuilding, it happens, but they were not giving up as they have in the past. Cronk can get farked.

 

[YeahNah 4020]

Seriously we could pick up Lino.
He would be handy.

Lino to hooker

 

[Stalefish540]

It's unfortunate for you fans back in NZ that the team doesn't get a chance to come back at Mt. Smart for that game.

But it's probably for the best. Wouldn't be ideal for their first home game in 2 seasons to be a loss to the Bulldogs for 11 losses in a row.

Which if we're being honest is where we're likely heading.

 

[bruce]

I see you have been in the corporate world Bruce. In the 1990s paradigm shift and Steven covey was all the rage

Really?

Why thank you for thinking I was a suit, can I take that as a compliment?

As an aside, I recall many years ago, when I was in a meeting with two rugby league executives, both university educated, and I used the term paradigm shift. They didn't have a clue what I was talking about.

I have never read Stephen Covey, in depth anyway, his works are plagiarized to shite, but have heard of him.

Actually I will confess to being an academic, and a pedantic one at that.

As a train spotter I can assure you that Stephen Coney did not coin the term, I don't know who actually did, it was rumoured to be Thomas Kuhn, but I don't think it was him either.

Anyway Kuhn used it is a scientific philosophy rather than a management one.

Now where were we, my paradigm on the Warriors...heyzeuss spare me.

 

[bruce]

Lino to hooker

Lino had ticker and never gave up. How is his body these days though.

 

[Diesel]

I was at the game… not the best one to attend

 

[Nangsy]

Latrell is the biggest grub in the nrl
Everyone knows it
Regarding the game Reece Walsh had a shocker with the boot at least it happened thud year and not in a game that mattered

it was not a bad warriors performance at all
We scored 22 points and were not skunked
Secondly south’s played red hot
It was a blow out in a game that didn’t matter
This game was not must win at all. This game did not matter as our season sailed by two or three weeks ago.

chin up we have a good team and good cattle

I don’t really think we deserved to have lost 7 in a row

Every game matters. It was a shit performance. Everyone looks disinterested, it’s a team of individuals atm.

 

[gREVUS]

Every game matters. It was a shit performance. Everyone looks disinterested, it’s a team of individuals atm.

players know when the coach has no idea.

 

[Ned]

Next year we won’t be a threat with such big defensive weaknesses in the side.

 

[Uster101]

The rating system on this site needs to be changed to allow zeros. To be honest giving the lowest rating - a 1 - is really making the players look better then they actually were !

 

[Rick O'Shay]

Not a lot to take out of that trainwreck. Big men on little men. Dallin Watene-Zelezniak went well and glad Otuloko is at least getting some game time.

Poor old Reece had a shocker, keep the chin up son, some days just aren't yours.

Best thing about it is that Mohawk must be getting real close to critical mass.

 

[j-bob]

That was disappointing.

 

[Geoff Public]

I've let it sink in, read others comments and this is how I feel.
Last week took it out of us. A good team would have resilience this week, but poorer performing teams like ours do not.
While it's no excuse, most teams have been pantsed at some time this season. We just joined the club.
While my team looks quite good on paper, I cannot argue about it's place on the ladder is a true reflection.
While I'm not ready to remove Brownie, I'm no longer ready to defend him. He needs to do that himself...... by winning games. However some changes in the coaching staff must be explored.
The rest of the season has winnable games. Even if the playoffs dream is over, I expect positive results.

 

[Noitall]

I also think as Flanagan said commentating, some teams are panicking when they get down the other end attacking on the try line and points don’t come. I think we’ve been guilty of that for weeks now. Its even more desperate when they get the ball back from say a line drop out, we panic when we don’t score straight away. The best teams just keep pinning the opposition in their in goal and keep attacking until the pressure is too much for the opposition to cope with.

 

[john nick]

I agree.

The season is stuffed, it was gone weeks ago except for some dreamers on here.

Souths had a reason to perform, because they didn't last week, and by half time they were in danger of a repeat.

Chad should not be playing at all, if I were the Cowboys I would be dirty as. So we had a winged tackler in Chad. Their boppers had a field day. You don't need too many players missing tackles to cause a rout, especially with the errors we were making.

The team were off the boil after last week, and those errors from Walsh started the rot.

We have a shite defensive pattern that a guy like Bennett is going to work around. I think we have a good group of payers, we definitely do not have a good defensive coach. If the defensive pattern is substandard, it affects the players confidence.

Didya all know that Brown has beaten Bennett 9 times of of 11m before today? That is true so Like I said pre match Bennett was out to get him.

However Dallin Watene-Zelezniak showed his class, and Montoya. Our two big guys up front were showing the effects of last week without any doubt.

Anyway stats time:
Possession 67% to 33%...heyzeuss spare me that is like opposed training for a team like Souths.

I cannot bear to list the running metres and set distances or kick return metres. Our forward pack got absolutely rogered like I cannot remember.

We had 45 missed tackles, which in the circumstances was a positive (sort of), we have had that many before without too many points being scored.

Lodge ran 12 times for for 107 metres, in the circumstances very good IMO.
Addin Fonua-Blake ran 7 times for 67, so he was sore from his effort last week. Nothing wrong with his fitness IMO but the body can only take so much belting.
Bunty and LAM did not seem to do much running, but then we didn't have that much ball either.

Josh Curran had 53 made tackles and only missed 4.

Kodi missed 3 tackles but made 23. WTF said he is a revolving door? Some people don't know shite.

Chad only made 11 tackles, and missed 2 anyway which showed he was keeping out of trouble, totally understandable IMO

Ironically the worst for missed tackles were Mat Lodge with 6, Pompey with 5 and the new kid Otukolo with 5. Sorry guys that is not a sign he is future rock star.

Bunty made 36 tackles and only missed one.

So as gutted as I am, I even turned the TV off in the second half because I couldn't watch any more, I am not as distraught as I should be.

There were some good signs, plenty of ticker and speed in the outside backs.

Walsh had a shocker, but that happens to kids. He should bounce back.

Anybody who think we have a definitive coach is dreaming, and that needs sorting.

Brown, he is not the answer, at present anyway, and with Gould out of the way he might get the sack soon.

Yeah Bruce thats almost my uptake on the game(first half )anyway.Went & got fish & chips at half time .Didnt watch second half.Very pissed off.They are lacking ruthlessness.Best word I can come up with this morning

 

[kos]

How many minutes did Bunty play?
He did look ok out there.
Walsh screwing up 4 (?) kicks just gave South so much momentum.
Chanel Harris-Tavita and Hiku due back for next week.
Chad has got to be rested he is only half a player.

 

[bruce]

I was just thinking, looking at that performance yesterday and compared it with 2000.

Back then we were thumped 54 - 0 at Win Stadium. We ended up 13 from 14, and on points differential deserved to be last by a country mile.

Back then we had some future superstars in the side, including Ivan Cleary and a developing and respected coach in Mark Graham, and an off the field disaster with the dispute between Lowe and the Tainui.

The morale was shite, the players were not even turning up to training on time.

The club was broke so they bought in Eric Watson who splashed come cash, fluked Mad Mick Watson before he went mad, and Daniel Anderson.

We are 14th but deserve to be 11th, and who knows?

So we got beat, but put plenty of points on the board. Many of the players are new to the side.

The biggest similarity with 2000 and 2001 to now is we got Kevin Campion in the side. He toughened up the forward pack and became a genuine leader. Lodge and Addin Fonua-Blake will do that for sure.

Walsh is a good kid and I think he and Shaun Johnson will go well together. Our outside backs are looking good as well.

Our ownership is much more committed.

My question is about the football department. Gould has gone, Brown has to be under pressure, but my hope is that Robinson knows that and has it in hand.

Glass half full? or am I dreaming?

 

[john nick]

I was just thinking, looking at that performance yesterday and compared it with 2000.

Back then we were thumped 54 - 0 at Win Stadium. We ended up 13 from 14, and on points differential deserved to be last by a country mile.

Back then we had some future superstars in the side, including Ivan Cleary and a developing and respected coach in Mark Graham, and an off the field disaster with the dispute between Lowe and the Tainui.

The morale was shite, the players were not even turning up to training on time.

The club was broke so they bought in Eric Watson who splashed come cash, fluked Mad Mick Watson before he went mad, and Daniel Anderson.

We are 14th but deserve to be 11th, and who knows?

So we got beat, but put plenty of points on the board. Many of the players are new to the side.

The biggest similarity with 2000 and 2001 to now is we got Kevin Campion in the side. He toughened up the forward pack and became a genuine leader. Lodge and Addin Fonua-Blake will do that for sure.

Walsh is a good kid and I think he and Shaun Johnson will go well together. Our outside backs are looking good as well.

Our ownership is much more committed.

My question is about the football department. Gould has gone, Brown has to be under pressure, but my hope is that Robinson knows that and has it in hand.

Glass half full? or am I dreaming?

Sorry mate.A beautiful dream is my take

 

[davo]

I was just thinking, looking at that performance yesterday and compared it with 2000.

Back then we were thumped 54 - 0 at Win Stadium. We ended up 13 from 14, and on points differential deserved to be last by a country mile.

Back then we had some future superstars in the side, including Ivan Cleary and a developing and respected coach in Mark Graham, and an off the field disaster with the dispute between Lowe and the Tainui.

The morale was shite, the players were not even turning up to training on time.

The club was broke so they bought in Eric Watson who splashed come cash, fluked Mad Mick Watson before he went mad, and Daniel Anderson.

We are 14th but deserve to be 11th, and who knows?

So we got beat, but put plenty of points on the board. Many of the players are new to the side.

The biggest similarity with 2000 and 2001 to now is we got Kevin Campion in the side. He toughened up the forward pack and became a genuine leader. Lodge and Addin Fonua-Blake will do that for sure.

Walsh is a good kid and I think he and Shaun Johnson will go well together. Our outside backs are looking good as well.

Our ownership is much more committed.

My question is about the football department. Gould has gone, Brown has to be under pressure, but my hope is that Robinson knows that and has it in hand.

Glass half full? or am I dreaming?

It would be a very harsh call to sack the coach given the covid turmoil but clearly there's no end in sight further on field dramas.
The injuries being wracked up is symptomatic of not just bad luck but poor technique and desperation, not acting in unison and several weak links and combinations. Fatigue seems to be more in evidence too..another couple of poor games and the risk is they'll be a capitulation and Brownie will be totally exposed .
With out some clear sighted guidance from the clubs hierarchy the chance of fans and sponsors walking away looms large. I'd be satisfied if they declared the rest of season an experimental phase and stick with the youth and drop the veterans who won't feature next year.

Glass half empty