Many people will say our recruitment has been good. I completely disagree. the warriors are in a results driven business and the guys brownie has recruited himself are not getting results. the warriors are getting guys who need development whether thats coming from a different code or just lower grades. I understand why a fan like yourself gets upset or frustrated or angry or what ever emotion you feel when some of the younger guys make mistakes. but these guys are getting poor development if any but thats for another thread.
last week against the sharks we had a lot of momentum scoring two quick tries and then the sharks had a player sent off. The sharks were smart and knew what to do to stop what could of been an avalanche of tries against them. earlier tonight titans seemed t have all the momentum (12 sets to 3). Dragons defended their line really well, had decent line speed and made good first contact in the tackle. they forced a mistake and scored shortly after. Watch the storm or panthers or any of the top teams how they defend when momentum is against them. The storm for example will used fast line speed and put pressure on the other team. they make very good first contact and they really slow the play the ball down. DCE from manly has an incredible boot on him and will hit a 40/20 or put a big kick in and the eagles will put the effort in with a good kick chase.
also the tigers are 15 on the ladder and have 2 wins so no they havent turned their season around.
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Yes correct I get frustrated with N00b players who either shouldn't be selected, shouldn;t be a part of the 30 at all, or in the case of
Katoa if he is to play shouldn't be in a challenging position on the edge. I am not sure how else to position my feedback that he shouldn't play without highlighting his name.
Brown himself said
Katoa will develop better at Middle forward. Last night he played edge only because of injury. At half time Graham Lowe and Honey (whatever her last name is) pinned
Katoa with some of the edge tries. "He is not sliding across which is letting them have an overlap out wide".
My opinion on all developing players is that the you can't learn to be NRL standard in first grade. You can start as an NRL standard player and learn to be a better player, but you can't start as a developing sub standard player and end up being NRL standard and later above average. The reason in my view is the NRL is too fast paced to learn and you get so few touches of the ball that it is hard too learn. Finally the mistakes you do make get blown up on TV replays, on social media, on forums like this one, If you are a fledgling player like
Katoa who is not NRL standard the NRL will destroy you and you will get progressively worse.
Katoa used to in his rookie season, actually be quite good, His confidence now is shot, due to how difficult the NRL is and he needs substantive time in Reserves where he wins some player of the match awards and gets a brace of tries quite often to bolster him.
Gus Gould tried to turn around Kyle Flanagan by letting him have 5 starts in Bulldogs reserves to start the season as he knew he wouldn't develop or learn the game in First Grade. When he came back to First grade he was much better, and much better than he would have been had he played first grade all year. He probably still isn't much chop. But the only improvement he did was in reggies.
I have firm views on this as we used to debate this all the time on the cricket forums, Finally after 5 years of debating and tracking various players and various prospects. It just became apparent to all of us that development should be done in domestic First class cricket and that in International cricket you pick guys who are ready to perform now. Sometimes that means hard calls where the likes of a young potential super star like Rachin Ravindra can get over looked for a steady but older journey man who will never be much like Darryl Mitchell. Yet this formula seems to work. Rachin will be better off learning at provincial or county cricket. And will end up banging down the door.
We also on cricket forums use to talk a lot about "forum teams" vs "selector teams". Teams the cricket selectors pick are very unadventurous and frustratingly conservative and non performers are kept in the team for up to 12 months longer than they should be. Forum teams are what fans on a forum would pick which are full of guys with high cielings and more upside. Whenever the seletors did pick a forum like side it would always get wasted. The young tyros who were picked would get stage fright and not have the mental discipline to succeed on the highest stage. And half of succeeding in international cricket or first grade rugby league is being used to playing in front of a massive crowd. Which takes time to get used to.
I am raving a bit, we learned that playing young tyros should be done with caution and instead playing more experienced and less talented guys who had paid their dues seemed to work better.
On a different note about momentum
You brought up the Sharks and how they managed to stop our momentum when they were down two men. They didn't do anything.
Instead
Katoa did a loose carry 10 metres out from our line and we never saw the pill again for 15 minutes and three shark tries.
It seems like momentum is either halted, by half time coming, or a member of the attacking team with momentum screwing the pooch or the referee intervening. That said I didn't see your example of St George making a coming back.
As for Storm I havn't really seen them under the conch all season. If a team does get into the red zone the raid doesn't last long enough or turn into repeat sets.
Here is a quote on momentum from the article after the game that someone posted from Stuff with
Nathan Brown's thoughts:
"It was a game that highlighted how important momentum is in the NRL now and once it’s lost, it’s so hard to get back.
“If you looked at the start of the game, the effort the forwards were putting in, in particular some of our bigger middle blokes [it was good],” Brown said.
“Then we get into the cycle where we turn the ball over. We went for the early kick and they got it back early, then we never had the ball for 14-15 minutes.
“So the line speed comes as a product of the fatigue, where if you look at the second half of the game when we caused an arm wrestle, you could see it with their forwards and line speed."
“How did we go through the middle then? It looked like two different football teams."
Finally correct the tigers have not turned their season around but they have improved. The Tigers are 2 wins and 2 losses since focussing on set completion. They started 0 and 5.
Sorry for massive length of this it is a rainy day outside so had nothing to do.
