General Religious Discussion Thread

ramps

ramps

From a combination of elements like hydrogen, carbon and oxygen. What exactly the base matter of the particles that make up those elements is, and how it behaves in dimensions beyond the 4th dimension of non-linear time/space, no one knows.yet.
Well then i guess god is as good as it gets to an answer on how matter was formed in the beginning. No other definite answer
 
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Well then i guess god is as good as it gets to an answer on how matter was formed in the beginning. No other definite answer
Yep, that's what the word God means to me, everybody has a different take on it, mine's not very comforting though, but it's my truth until I find something better to believe in
 
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Roger Penrose is one of my favourite scientists to listen to regarding difficult questions like the origin of the universe, or nature of conciousness. I don't know if I subscribe to his beliefs, but he thinks about these sorts of questions in an interesting way in my opinion. For example: and
 
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ramps

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Roger Penrose is one of my favourite scientists to listen to regarding difficult questions like the origin of the universe, or nature of conciousness. I don't know if I subscribe to his beliefs, but he thinks about these sorts of questions in an interesting way in my opinion. For example: and

Interesting point of view. Although, Any ideology whether it be religious or scientific sounds like a whole lot of nit picking on anything in terms of the creation of the universe. What pushes me to believe in Religion is the explanation from start of life until the end. Science makes up the end of life and evolution as it goes on. The Bible and other religious scriptures have held firm in their ideologies since the beginning which some would call prophecies or foreseen/planned events from a higher souce such as God. Religion allows you to focus on the present and future based on the teachings of the past so were not forever trying to unearth the presumed unknown.

I try not to be biased as its actually an interesting topic which im not 100% confident in. But my belief in faith is based on the values on how i live my life and future generations as opposed to why things are the way they are.
 
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Juju

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I can't move past the fact that "God"supposedly created this vastly chaotic but perfect universe, our earth - but for some reason he's supposedly hung up on a species - he created sinning, changing gender or sucking a dick. That's utterly utterly ludicrous of the bloke.

It's very hard to not feel like the human ego created religion, as a crutch to avoid confronting the meaninglessness of each of our existence, while lacking the knowledge and science to provide the answers. Humanity seems to need religion to provide comfort from that pretty stark reality of our existence.

The religion / the bible whatever really just does seems like some guide book to life written by some well intentioned chancers - that humanity ran subsequently ran with in some very very weird ways.

All the sinning & repenting fairytales seem to just be an excuse for human desires, and a method of keeping society on an even keel

I just can't cop that human's are anything but the species on this particular planet that have ended up being the smartest (and most destructive)
Afterall from space - (not far from our planet at all) - humanity merely looks like bacteria ruining the planet.

The leap of ego to think we're the special ones is pretty mind blowing



Let's not even discuss how goddam ridiculous it is how we worked up we all get on 13 "Warriors" chasing a ball around a field.
 
Stalefish540

Stalefish540

I can't move past the fact that "God"supposedly created this vastly chaotic but perfect universe, our earth - but for some reason he's supposedly hung up on a species - he created sinning, changing gender or sucking a dick. That's utterly utterly ludicrous of the bloke.

It's very hard to not feel like the human ego created religion, as a crutch to avoid confronting the meaninglessness of each of our existence, while lacking the knowledge and science to provide the answers. Humanity seems to need religion to provide comfort from that pretty stark reality of our existence.

The religion / the bible whatever really just does seems like some guide book to life written by some well intentioned chancers - that humanity ran subsequently ran with in some very very weird ways.
Religion was probably created innocently to try explain natural phenomina way back when, but at some point was debased to a means of oppressing and controlling people.

Religious people today have no excuse for still holding such archaic backward views. Information is available to the masses right at their fingertips, so there is no real excuse anymore and they should rightly be called out for it.

The religious people that have chosen to move forward with society are unfortunately being let down by the ones that are like a cinder block tied to your neck at the beach trying to drag us back to the stone age.
 
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While not wanting to upset anyone, please take this in the light hearted manner it is intended...

Sometimes I like to think we were put here as an experiment by some superior race. Just to see how we'd act/react to certain stimuli.

As a control in the experiment, you have Storm/All Blacks fans. Always consistent, always winning.

As one of the more ludicrous variables - we have warriors (and black caps) fans - who never know what team will show up on any given day.

And then as I work my way through the logic, I realise the aforementioned superior race who put us here are some sick and twisted assholes...
 
Geoff Public

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I can't move past the fact that "God"supposedly created this vastly chaotic but perfect universe, our earth - but for some reason he's supposedly hung up on a species - he created sinning, changing gender or sucking a dick. That's utterly utterly ludicrous of the bloke.

It's very hard to not feel like the human ego created religion, as a crutch to avoid confronting the meaninglessness of each of our existence, while lacking the knowledge and science to provide the answers. Humanity seems to need religion to provide comfort from that pretty stark reality of our existence.

The religion / the bible whatever really just does seems like some guide book to life written by some well intentioned chancers - that humanity ran subsequently ran with in some very very weird ways.

All the sinning & repenting fairytales seem to just be an excuse for human desires, and a method of keeping society on an even keel

I just can't cop that human's are anything but the species on this particular planet that have ended up being the smartest (and most destructive)
Afterall from space - (not far from our planet at all) - humanity merely looks like bacteria ruining the planet.

The leap of ego to think we're the special ones is pretty mind blowing



Let's not even discuss how goddam ridiculous it is how we worked up we all get on 13 "Warriors" chasing a ball around a field.

So would I be right to assume you refuse to attend any christenings weddings or funerals in a church since you can't move past things.
 
Juju

Juju

So would I be right to assume you refuse to attend any christenings weddings or funerals in a church since you can't move past things.
I don't understand what you're trying to infer?

I can't attend those places because and can pay respect to the people involved.
As silly as I may think religion, its still peoples right to believe whatever brings them comfort, when they become zealots, bigots or hypocrites and it affects other people is when it crosses the line for me personally.
 
Geoff Public

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I don't understand what you're trying to infer?

I can't attend those places because and can pay respect to the people involved.
As silly as I may think religion, its still peoples right to believe whatever brings them comfort, when they become zealots, bigots or hypocrites and it affects other people is when it crosses the line for me personally.
Yes you do understand. We finally see you Juju. You're no better than anyone else when the jandel hits the asphalt. So give them the same break you give yourself
 
Juju

Juju

Yes you do understand. We finally see you Juju. You're no better than anyone else when the jandel hits the asphalt. So give them the same break you give yourself
When did I even say I am better than anyone else?
and No I actually don't need to give bigots, zealots and hypocrites a break at all


How about you share your actual values instead of getting uppity when someone says something you don't like or maybe just stfu.

"We" finally see me? That's just weird.
 
Geoff Public

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When did I even say I am better than anyone else?
and No I actually don't need to give bigots, zealots and hypocrites a break at all


How about you share your actual values instead of getting uppity when someone says something you don't like or maybe just stfu.

"We" finally see me? That's just weird.
Words, words, words. Blah, blah, blah. Heh heh, heh.
 
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Religion was probably created innocently to try explain natural phenomina way back when, but at some point was debased to a means of oppressing and controlling people.

Religious people today have no excuse for still holding such archaic backward views. Information is available to the masses right at their fingertips, so there is no real excuse anymore and they should rightly be called out for it.

The religious people that have chosen to move forward with society are unfortunately being let down by the ones that are like a cindermyuy block tied to your neck at the beach trying to drag us back to the stone age.
Once youve experienced a supernatural event you will never really understand that there really is a supernatural power such as God. Until then, i probably dont blame you for thinking that way
 
Stalefish540

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Once youve experienced a supernatural event you will never really understand that there really is a supernatural power such as God. Until then, i probably dont blame you for thinking that way
I don't have a problem with people choosing to believe be religious. I have a problem with the discrimatory views certain people of faith hold for absolutely no sensical reason.
 

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