You've mistaken what i've stated, let me show the following quotes, then speak..
You Said: You agree that we're talking about a player agent contract, and not a playing/club contract, correct?
I Said: With the intention of shopping him around elsewhere while currently contracted. Yes.
You Said: How would you back up the two assertions you made (emphasis added), particularly as they apply to Benji Marshall?
So i should've pulled you up there, as by stating, yes. I'm obviously agreeing with you that we were talking about a player agent contract.
The changing of clubs was the managers doing, whether Benji knew or not, is another story.
I then go on to state that Benji was the link between the said parties. So how do you come to the conclusion that i asserted Benji was actually the one shopping him around?[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be surprised if I've misunderstood you - I thought you were holding what I consider an unbackable assertion, unless of course you have some inside knowledge.
I didn't think you were asserting that Benji was shopping Locke around.
I thought you were asserting that Benji convinced Locke to change management with the foreknowledge that Tauber would then shop Locke around prior to the expiration of Locke's Warriors contract.
It's a tenuous trail, hence why I was trying to clarify if that's what you were claiming, but it came from a few pieces combining as per below (emphasis added):
sebastian said:I heard Benji was furious the Warriors knocked his team out of the comp. Wonder if hes devious enough to try to pay them back. Or whether it was just the agent using Benji to play silly bugger. Either way Benji's character seems come into question. I'm just saying, i've never heard anything positive about the Warriors, as a club, ever come out of Benji's mouth.
Above, you posited as a possibility that Benji convinced Locke to change management as a way to get back at the Warriors for losing to them in the finals. This implies that Benji did so knowing that Tauber would try to get Locke to break his Warriors contract. You didn't state this as fact, but merely posed the question.
I've seen him talk other clubs up. That wasn't his own. If he successfully managed to help Locke rangle his way out of his contract. You'd have no ill feelings about the managers plan using Benji to help sign him up to someone else? Because as a Warriors fan, i'd be mad as hell. If we had've lost Locke down to Benji's influence.
Above, you continued your train of thought, with Benji helping Locke to get out of his Warriors contract. (Unless by 'we' you were referring to George Mimis! )
This was the catalyst for me to double check that you knew the contract being discussed in the article was that of player management, not club.
When NU queried the above comment, saying that he didn't think Benji would have enough influence to make Locke break his Warriors contract, you said:
sebastian said:But it states in the article that Benji did get him to sign the contract but someone stepped in. Obviously legal issues got involved and voided it. But the influence was obviously there because there was another contract signed.
The above prompted me to again seek clarification that you knew it was a player management contract that was breached - not the Warriors one (even though Tauber tried that on). I said the blame for Locke then being shopped around had to fall mostly on Tauber, and slightly on Locke. (Although I confused things by referring to Johnson instead of Locke.)
To that, you replied:
sebastian said:Are you saying Benji would've had no idea after to speaking to Locke about signing another contract, about Locke's 2 year deal extension with the Warriors. Surely you don't believe that, i've never taken you as niave, JB.
Above, you again implied Benji's foreknowledge of Tauber trying to get Locke to break his contract. In fact, you actually referenced two difference contracts in the same sentence but didn't differentiate.
Again I sought clarification, and you pointed out that you were aware we were talking about a player management contract, and not the contract Locke signed with the Warriors. All of your comments were Benji-focused, so when you stated:
With the intention of shopping him around elsewhere while currently contracted. Yes.
...I thought you were making the assertion that Benji convinced Locke to sign with Tauber with the foreknowledge, (and, indeed, the intent, following that finals match loss), that Tauber would then try to have Locke's Warriors contract torn up, presumably for a gig at the Roosters.
And here we are.