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Elliot knows Exactly what he is doing.

The Question you are really asking is is it the right thing.

The delay in naming a captain is entirely about Elliot , all eyes are on him and he's determined to be seen as the new whip, not the inheritor of an unchangeable blue print.
All this delay Bollocks is just chest beating by Elliot that ( quite cleverly ) puts his stamp on the team.

Player power is now crushed since the players are being reminded by this New Coach that no one is safe.

The reality is that in my opinion there is no better captain in the team now that the genuine threat and superior leader Michael Luck has retired.

That is not a dig at Mannering , I think he is now the Man for the job and that Elliot would be stupid to replace him.

Mannering has finally come of age imo and will better next year for it.



ADDIT: lowrie manering friend Leiuluai Rapira Neilson locke ..peroux .................If we had those players last year we would be dealing to a lot of teams with heavy defense. It's Mannerings Time i recon those guys are Capable with Vatuvie and Hurrell ........of smashing sides when they fire up cant wait to see us play the Storm this year...most of all to see how fit we are....can't wait Mt Wellington !
 
I'm really interested in seeing what sort of style Mannering will play next year, whether he will return to being like the ever consistent tackle-bot of 2011, or develops more on the controlled-aggression we saw in 2012. Personally, I loved the controlled-aggression he showed last season. It was like he was taking his pent up frustration out on his opponent, but without going all Rambo on their asses and risk jeopardising the defensive line or giving away unnecessary penalties.

Bluey's coaching methods, regardless of whether it was intentional or not, brought out a side of Mannering that made me think he can really be a badass player for us in the future. Instead of just being Mr Consistency that the likes of Benry and Taylor can look up to, he could really give us that mental edge that only the players with a genuine never-back-down attitude can provide.
 
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Have no doubt in my mind that Mannering will get it. What bothers me a little is shouldnt we have a captain by now thats helping to lead the boys during training? Said it before and I'll say it again, I hope ME knows what he's doing?

IMO it shows how astute ME is, after a dismal season naming a Captain of a team that will have so much experience coming into the team would be foolish and Simon has been an average sort of Captain so far, but his best years are ahead of him and this season should have helped steel his mentality.
A leadership group similar to Souths is looking likely
 

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I'm really interested in seeing what sort of style Mannering will play next year, whether he will return to being like the ever consistent tackle-bot of 2011, or develops more on the controlled-aggression we saw in 2012. Personally, I loved the controlled-aggression he showed last season. It was like he was taking his pent up frustration out on his opponent, but without going all Rambo on their asses and risk jeopardising the defensive line or giving away unnecessary penalties.

Bluey's coaching methods, regardless of whether it was intentional or not, brought out a side of Mannering that made me think he can really be a badass player for us in the future. Instead of just being Mr Consistency that the likes of Benry and Taylor can look up to, he could really give us that mental edge that only the players with a genuine never-back-down attitude can provide.
i'd like to see mannering play 13. lowry on one side and mateo on the other. he is turning into a myles/gallen type back rower.
 
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IMO it shows how astute ME is, after a dismal season naming a Captain of a team that will have so much experience coming into the team would be foolish and Simon has been an average sort of Captain so far, but his best years are ahead of him and this season should have helped steel his mentality.
A leadership group similar to Souths is looking likely
Lets hope so. This sort of approach will either be a resounding success or catastrophic failure! My only concern is of course the consequences of the latter...
 
i'd like to see mannering play 13. lowry on one side and mateo on the other. he is turning into a myles/gallen type back rower.
Definitely agree, especially now that he doesn't have to baby sit Maloney.

Which side of the field do you think Mateo should play on?
 
I'd be pretty gutted if Mannering wasn't captain I know this season was abysmal in many aspects but Simon has led this team admirably for 3 solid seasons he's grown into the captaincy role and is just starting to mature taking it off him now would be quite strange but then again it could be a good thing considering he plays very well for the Kiwis without the burden of captaincy?!.

I've read players like Leuluai and Mateo's names being bandied about as captain material but I personally would still go with Mannering I've said it before he's a follow me type leader who uses his body language more then his verbal skills he's not a barker like some captains are and he's not Michael Luck he's a far better player then Luck ever was imho but don't shoot me down Luck fans I admire Luck too just not as much as Mannering.
 
Mateo would not be a good captain. Thomas L has very good experiance and would be a good choice. I like Mannering but after last year I think we need someone very vocal.
 
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I'd be pretty gutted if Mannering wasn't captain I know this season was abysmal in many aspects but Simon has led this team admirably for 3 solid seasons he's grown into the captaincy role and is just starting to mature taking it off him now would be quite strange but then again it could be a good thing considering he plays very well for the Kiwis without the burden of captaincy?!.

I've read players like Leuluai and Mateo's names being bandied about as captain material but I personally would still go with Mannering I've said it before he's a follow me type leader who uses his body language more then his verbal skills he's not a barker like some captains are and he's not Michael Luck he's a far better player then Luck ever was imho but don't shoot me down Luck fans I admire Luck too just not as much as Mannering.
To me, after watching the embarrassment of 2012, it shows that we need a vocal captain to tear strips off the players when they play like fools. If they are unable to motivate themselves, then a quiet "follow-me" captain is not going to motivate them. Arse kicking is what is needed.
 
I like Mannering as a player, and thought his new aggressive style last season was fantastic. But I still feel he looks mopey and depressed whenever we are down, rather than firing up he seems to go into his shell. This is just a tv spectator's perception of course.

But yeah, I'd be very open to Thomas Leuluai in particular. You guys know he captained Wigan and the Exiles? I'm a fan of halves being captains, also.
 
I like Mannering as a player, and thought his new aggressive style last season was fantastic. But I still feel he looks mopey and depressed whenever we are down, rather than firing up he seems to go into his shell. This is just a tv spectator's perception of course.

But yeah, I'd be very open to Thomas Leuluai in particular. You guys know he captained Wigan and the Exiles? I'm a fan of halves being captains, also.
Manering has got pretty good with his body language and appearance of Authority when he is talking to the Reffs, wonder what's diferrent with the talks under the goal posts ?

Possible reasons could include :

He's been that Quiet sorta fullah around his team mates, comming through the system it's hard to break out of how people have seen you for a long time.

Often under the goal posts Mannering has been making a ton of tackles to cover up the shyte some of his team mates have dished up , he's often breathing hard and trying not to let it show maybe ? or he is just too fkd off to speak........all that actually points to giving the leadership to someone else.....especially when he looks like a broken Cur.

Iro was always in there doing all the talking from the Coaches Box /or undermining it who knows.......I wonder if the Warriors over do it with the waterboy preaching and undermine the Captains Authority ?

I like the idea of a half running the team too, taking charge of the whole deal, some halves let it mess with their own game of course....

If Mannering is re elected by the players and Elliot goes with it , if results are not forth comming then Elliot has a ready made first casualty of War......' the group went with Simon, they didn't however respond in the way we had all hoped, Simon is wanting to concentrate on his own game and support the new ( My ) Captain...blah blah '

In theory throwing Mannering to the Wolves early in a shocker start by the new Regime could buy them some time.....
 
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IMO it shows how astute ME is, after a dismal season naming a Captain of a team that will have so much experience coming into the team would be foolish and Simon has been an average sort of Captain so far, but his best years are ahead of him and this season should have helped steel his mentality.
A leadership group similar to Souths is looking likely

It seems to me that Elliott has his management team sorted. IMO that had to happen before any improvement in performance could start from the players. If done properly they will have clear targets and expectations mapped out for them. From last year fitness is number one. I saw them in Melbourne last year, they started off great, then drifted off the pace. As the All Blacks of the 60's said it is 95% perspiration, 3% inspiration and 2% skill.

The players are there, it is the fitness, structure and will missing. As Captain Mannering could do more, however, so can the other senior members in the side. The Water guy can relay messages to the Captain and he gives it to the team. The bench for me last year was disappointing, when Mateo went off his replacements did not add anything to the performance of the team....and that is being kind. I thought too many tacles were wasted by half assed runs taking the ball from a standing shallow start. Hopefully Locke and Sam Rapira come back strong. Packer needs a good year. We cannot afford to be playing U20's again, the definition of potential is you haven't done it yet. Outside backs could be the thinnest, just a question, he can cover halves, centre and fullback, could Tuimavave cover wing?. I say that as a possibility that Manu could take two 10 minute spells in the forwards at the 30 and 70 minute marks, just a thought.
 
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Does anyone know when the boys are back to training?


Here you are Swanley Swanley.

From warriors.co.nz

Vodafone Warriors head coach Matthew Elliott is 37 days away from his first game in charge at the club. Photo: Photosport.
With the Vodafone Warriors kicking off their preseason proper this morning, there are just 37 days left until their trials programme starts – including matches in Hamilton and Dunedin – ahead of their 2013 NRL campaign.
The schedule begins against Gold Coast at Pizzey Park, Burleigh Heads, on Saturday, February 9 (5.15pm kick-off local time), the same day the NRL year is kick-started with the annual NRL All Stars v Indigenous All Stars match, this year being played at Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane for the first time (7.00pm kick-off local time).
A week later the Vodafone Warriors have their first trial of the year in New Zealand – and their only one in the North Island – when they meet Penrith at Waikato Stadium in Hamilton on Saturday, February 16 (4.00pm kick-off) while the final 2013 trial is against Brisbane at Forsyth Barr Stadium on Saturday, February 23 (7.30pm kick-off), the first time NRL football has ever been played in Dunedin.
Back together again today after a short Christmas-New Year break, the Vodafone Warriors have returned to Mount Smart Stadium where they have a schedule consisting of a field session, recovery, strength and a pool session.
Tomorrow they’ll be at Mairangi Bay, beginning with a field session at Mairangi Bay Park in Maxwelton Drive at 9.30am, followed by a recovery session at Mairangi Bay beach at 11.00am and strength later at Mount Smart Stadium. The squad trains again at Mount Smart on Saturday morning.
The Gold Coast trial will be Matthew Elliott’s first game as Vodafone Warriors head coach and may also provide an opportunity for ex-Titans centre-winger Dominique Peyroux to make his Vodafone Warriors debut against his former club.
On the same day Konrad Hurrell, Shaun Johnson, Feleti Mateo or Ben Matulino will be playing for the NRL All Stars in Brisbane; they’re the four players in contention to become the Vodafone Warriors’ representative in the Wayne Bennett-coached side (the public select a player from each club).
 
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I went along to the open training session at Mairangi Bay this morning.Things started off with the usual warm ups then with the players splitting up into groups for drills etc. Matthew Elliot, Andrew McFadden & Ricky Henry all heavily involves with groups of players and there seemed to be a real good vibe coming out of the players. After the drills on the field they all moved next door the the beach volleyball courts (Top Gun - Warriors style) where they split into 3 groups - wrestling, tackling and contact with all three groups rotating around.After this they moved down to the beach for a recovery session.

I took a large amount of photos which can be seen here


https://imageshack.us/g/1/9947542/

https://imageshack.us/g/1/9947545/

I asked Simon about the captaincy and he diplomatically said nothings been mentioned to him as yet. On the topic of a move to Eden Park he said he was not keen:)
 
I went along to the open training session at Mairangi Bay this morning.Things started off with the usual warm ups then with the players splitting up into groups for drills etc. Matthew Elliot, Andrew McFadden & Ricky Henry all heavily involves with groups of players and there seemed to be a real good vibe coming out of the players. After the drills on the field they all moved next door the the beach volleyball courts (Top Gun - Warriors style) where they split into 3 groups - wrestling, tackling and contact with all three groups rotating around.After this they moved down to the beach for a recovery session.

I took a large amount of photos which can be seen here


https://imageshack.us/g/1/9947542/

https://imageshack.us/g/1/9947545/

I asked Simon about the captaincy and he diplomatically said nothings been mentioned to him as yet. On the topic of a move to Eden Park he said he was not keen:)


i was at the beggining feild session too,noted Hurell and another bloke got specificially singled out from the main group for a bit of Wiki love by the basketball hoop area...
im assuming an over indulgence in the food department over the Xmas break may have been the reason why( not confirmed of course lol)
gave Manu a good laugh anyways lol

GO THE WARRIORS!