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AlexM
1.Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
2.Fusitua
3.HIKU
4.KATA
5.KEN
6.BLAKE
7.Shaun Johnson
8.GAVET
9.LAWTON
10.PAASI
11.MANNERING
12.Tohu Harris
13.BLAIR
14.TEVAGA
15.AFOA
16.SAO
17.GELLING/SANTO/COOK
2.Fusitua
3.HIKU
4.KATA
5.KEN
6.BLAKE
7.Shaun Johnson
8.GAVET
9.LAWTON
10.PAASI
11.MANNERING
12.Tohu Harris
13.BLAIR
14.TEVAGA
15.AFOA
16.SAO
17.GELLING/SANTO/COOK
Stone
Gonna put my coaches hat on here & go with what I'd like to see
Melbourne did a job on us last night with a combination of hard direct running & Smith engaging our markers & being able to clear the ruck with his long bullet passes to a wide first receiver which negated our middles line speed & exposed our edges
Obviously our middle needs to aim up on defense to minimize any roll on, but the way to counter the tactic used by Melbourne is to actually have our line speed being led from the outside in by the edge forwards rather than from the inside out by the middle, it is for this reason I would have Blair as an edge forward along with Harris, I believe this would also help whoever is defending outside them as well as long as they push up with them
I also think Blair is currently somewhat wasted in the middle on attack, he has decent foot speed good footwork (certainly more than Mannering ) & great ball playing ability which I believe could be best utilized on the edge now that Pulu is out for an extended period, Mannering needs to go back to the middle where he is best suited to these days
A big part of our attack over the opening quarter of the season has been the ability of Issac Luke to engage the markers & clear the ruck with long bullet passes to the first receiver, sound familiar eg: Smith, it is for this reason that we simply must have a genuine ball player in the dummy half role & although I admire the courage & defensive energy Tevaga brings to the side his service from dummy half is average at best & utterly appalling at worst
All attack starts with the service from dummy half, good service is like half opening a door for an attacking raid to step through on the front foot, bad service leaves our attack fighting to push through closed doors off the back foot, it is for this reason I would start with Lawton who is by all accounts a vastly superior ball player to Tevaga
I would also drop Lisone altogether for Sao, Sam has had a genuine dig so far this season & has decent foot speed & good aggression, but he can be too easily dominated in the tackle, is still prone to making simple errors & is a defensive liability, whereas Ligi's transformation this season has been nothing short of outstanding
I would also start Gavet to have his combination of genuine intimidation & aggression right from the jump
I also see a lot of forum team lists do not include young Papali'i who for mine has done nothing wrong so far this season, so I would still have him on the bench as long as he is fit
1. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (c)
2. David Fusitua
3. Peta Hiku
4. Solomone Kata
5. Ken Maumalo
6. Blake Green
7. Shaun Johnson
8. Bunty Afoa
9. Karl Lawton
10. James Gavet
11. Adam Blair
12. Tohu Harris
13. Simon Mannering
14. Jazz Tevaga
15. Isaiah Papali'i
16. Agnatius Paasi
17. Ligi Sao
Melbourne did a job on us last night with a combination of hard direct running & Smith engaging our markers & being able to clear the ruck with his long bullet passes to a wide first receiver which negated our middles line speed & exposed our edges
Obviously our middle needs to aim up on defense to minimize any roll on, but the way to counter the tactic used by Melbourne is to actually have our line speed being led from the outside in by the edge forwards rather than from the inside out by the middle, it is for this reason I would have Blair as an edge forward along with Harris, I believe this would also help whoever is defending outside them as well as long as they push up with them
I also think Blair is currently somewhat wasted in the middle on attack, he has decent foot speed good footwork (certainly more than Mannering ) & great ball playing ability which I believe could be best utilized on the edge now that Pulu is out for an extended period, Mannering needs to go back to the middle where he is best suited to these days
A big part of our attack over the opening quarter of the season has been the ability of Issac Luke to engage the markers & clear the ruck with long bullet passes to the first receiver, sound familiar eg: Smith, it is for this reason that we simply must have a genuine ball player in the dummy half role & although I admire the courage & defensive energy Tevaga brings to the side his service from dummy half is average at best & utterly appalling at worst
All attack starts with the service from dummy half, good service is like half opening a door for an attacking raid to step through on the front foot, bad service leaves our attack fighting to push through closed doors off the back foot, it is for this reason I would start with Lawton who is by all accounts a vastly superior ball player to Tevaga
I would also drop Lisone altogether for Sao, Sam has had a genuine dig so far this season & has decent foot speed & good aggression, but he can be too easily dominated in the tackle, is still prone to making simple errors & is a defensive liability, whereas Ligi's transformation this season has been nothing short of outstanding
I would also start Gavet to have his combination of genuine intimidation & aggression right from the jump
I also see a lot of forum team lists do not include young Papali'i who for mine has done nothing wrong so far this season, so I would still have him on the bench as long as he is fit
1. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (c)
2. David Fusitua
3. Peta Hiku
4. Solomone Kata
5. Ken Maumalo
6. Blake Green
7. Shaun Johnson
8. Bunty Afoa
9. Karl Lawton
10. James Gavet
11. Adam Blair
12. Tohu Harris
13. Simon Mannering
14. Jazz Tevaga
15. Isaiah Papali'i
16. Agnatius Paasi
17. Ligi Sao
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I am really curious to know what Sao has done off field to put himself so far back in the pecking order, he form has been good so he must have done something/is being punished for an off field incident
Tedster
Genuine question but does he go well enough as a winger? No doubt he makes the metres with his hit ups but we have a big winger on the other side and his hands certainly have got better both on the ground and under the high ball but his positional play as a winger is questionable? He always looks a bit lost. Would have him as an impact forward to run hard at players when they tire.
Maraea
Havent seen much of him on attack this season he hasnt had too many opportunities yet. When Kata is there he goes for the line himself mostly. I think he got under the high ball and did well a couple of times this season that i recall. He is just not involved enough in the attacking sets to judge this season i guess.
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WellingtonOrca
Beale's been out for 6 months, even if he was fully fit I'd want him to have a game or two in ISP first.
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Trugoy
Most of us calling for Lawton’s inclusion (myself included) but i’ve only actually seen a teeny bit of him in ISP so far this year.
Anyone know how he’s been going?
And how far back has Cherrington dropped? Seems to have fallen completely off the radar.
Anyone know how he’s been going?
And how far back has Cherrington dropped? Seems to have fallen completely off the radar.
Lawton's been playing 80 minutes at hooker in ISP but not sure he's in out top 30 seeing that Sam Cooke's been named on the extended bench ahead of him so far.
If Kearney's going to consider Tevaga as a makeshift hooker why not Mason Lino who would give us a kicking option out of dummy half and can utilize his speed around the ruck.
If Kearney's going to consider Tevaga as a makeshift hooker why not Mason Lino who would give us a kicking option out of dummy half and can utilize his speed around the ruck.
Stone
Mason Lino would definitely be superior to Tevaga on attack
But he would get absolutely raped in the middle on defense & it's impossible to justify hiding a hooker on the edges in the modern game
But he would get absolutely raped in the middle on defense & it's impossible to justify hiding a hooker on the edges in the modern game
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matiunz
Need to deliver a hiding to the Tigers to bounce back from last nights crap fest
Stalefish540
Cook has been the starting hooker, Lawton has been playing 30mins odd off bench(maybe except last week due to Lino). But with Lino playing FG last week and this, thats why Cook to 7 and Lawton to start at 9.
Lawton still down the pecking order from Cook.
This patch is where we find out just how huge a loss Roache is for the season.
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snake77
This article says he is outside the 30 man first grade squad.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/article.cfm?c_id=79&objectid=12040110
"ISP bench hooker Manaia Cherrington is not available for NRL selection given that he sits outside the Warriors top squad of 30 players."
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Tonbridge (Swanley)
If SK is going to pick Cook and Tevaga and not Lawton, then he needs to start with Cook, a genuine hooker. and then replace him with Tevaga. not the other way around.
1: Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
2: David
3: Hiku - If Beale is not yet ready
4: Kata
5: Ken
6: Green
7: Shaun Johnson
8: Gavet
9: Cook
10: Blair
11: Papalii
12: Harris
13: Mannering
14: Tevaga
15: Afoa
16: Paasi
17: Sao/Lisone
1: Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
2: David
3: Hiku - If Beale is not yet ready
4: Kata
5: Ken
6: Green
7: Shaun Johnson
8: Gavet
9: Cook
10: Blair
11: Papalii
12: Harris
13: Mannering
14: Tevaga
15: Afoa
16: Paasi
17: Sao/Lisone
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