Pick Your Team Pick Your Team 2018 Rnd 19 - Warriors vs Storm

[Warrior]

Talking to the refs is certainly important but I disagree it's the only job of a captain. It might only be a symbolic thing, but a captain still needs to be a good leader of his players and handle the off field media.

If you were to pick a "specialist debater" I'd say Green, Luke and Tevaga would be the best bets. Maybe Johnson or Harris

 

[AlexM]

While SK publicly backed Hiku I’m not expecting him to be rushed back to center anytime soon, barring injuries.

To me wing is his best position anyway, you don’t average 120 run meters plus a game (180 on the weekend) if your not good with ball in hand, he is, I don’t think anyone who’s watched him for a long time would argue that.

If you play him on the wing he’d be making less than a handful of tackles a game that’s a net gain for the team overall.

Maumalo on an edge fresh from the bench would be hard to handle for tired defenders late in a game.

I’d like to think the coaching staff would be considering it as an option because frankly Hiku or Beale from the bench is far less of a threat to the opposition so why not??

I've had that same dream , Maumalo thundering down an edge like Bill kikau

 

[Mr Frank White]

No flames for the following as I am not being 100% serious - I just felt like making some conversation as I am off work for a week.

I want to make a few well measured comments about Roger Tuivasa-Sheck. I read recently he is on $850,000. So just like Shaun Johnson he really needs to perform and I guess his try saving effort on the weekend was an example of doing just that.

As much as he leads from the front and by example and as much as I like his morals and values I don't think he is an effective NRL captain. That said I wouldn't change him as I don't think we have an effective NRL captain in our side.

An effective NRL captain has one job. And it isn't community relations. Or making good comments in the presser afterwards. Or making motivational team talks. After observing the origin captains and other teams this year the main core role of an NRL captain is to whine to the referee and effectively lobby for your team. Qualifications for the job include being a quick thinker. not being overly concerned with being honest, keeping the big picture in mind ie if you whine about this decision where you are obviously at fault it will pay off in the 2nd half.

That the NRL works this way isn't really Roger Tuivasa-Sheck's fault but ideally we would have a captain who could play this game. I have been through all of the senior leaders in the team and all of them are too honest. Something tells me Hiku might be able to make a go of it but I am not sure and he doesn't speak much at the breathing circle so there is that too.

My bottom three choices for captain would be Passi, Gavet and Afoa. They seem as quiet as church mice. So again Hiku would be much better than them.

Mannering would be awful as he would end up nodding his head and agreeing with the referee when the ref made common sense. Mannering is too fair minded. We need someone single minded on winning and not being concerned about the art forms required to create that win. It isn't cheating it is just "swimming with the sharks". The refs are the sharks and if you are going to deal with them then you need someone who can tame them using whatever it is necessary.

You must be smoking crack.

Only a couple of captains are allowed to whine to the refs, and Gallen and Smith normally fill those roles.

Also many a time Roger Tuivasa-Sheck has used his noggin to "politely" talk to the ref, and get the boys a few extra moments rest. In fact he forced a team to kick 2pts at the end of a half, as he'd chewed all the time up "chatting".

Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is slick...

 

[¿N. ig-mah¿]

I believe the captain needs to be positioned centrally up front. The best niggling captains are around the front row. Needs to be prop, lock or hooker for me. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck has to be in position and cant be in the refs ear. Luke doesnt have the control to communicate to refs. Our forwards dont seem confident enough to deal with refs. I would say it would have to be Blake Green. He is one of those people who seems capable of summing up any situation quickly and adapting. Id think Jazz has potential to be a good captain in the future. A great role model for the players and never gives up. Right location on the field, and i think he is prepared to speak up.

 

[Miket12]

Latest updates from the NRL casualty ward..... please remember that this matches a gypsy fortune teller for its accuracy most of the time:

 

[fizurg]

The captains who are able to sway the refs the most are the ones who have earnt the respect of them most.
Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is still young. Over time he may earn that respect from certain refs. Probably not though. Not many people do.

 

[eric]

Looking forward to this team list. SK has some selection headaches. It seems unfair if Ken loses his spot but hiku has more flair with ball in hand and he looked pretty good on the wing... I’m happy with either option.

If one of the backs were playing like pure crap it’d make this a lot easier.

 

[WellingtonOrca]

Just hope this "Charity Day" thing doesn't involve a big presentation before the match like the anzac day game.

 

[greenie]

Just going through this thread made me realize that I'd totally forgotten about the likes of Pulu & Harris yesterday

As for Bunty, well I've never seen a player improve so much between seasons,

I think Jazz and Ken would be in second and third place in those calculations...

 

[Makasene]

Looking forward to this team list. SK has some selection headaches. It seems unfair if Ken loses his spot but hiku has more flair with ball in hand and he looked pretty good on the wing... I’m happy with either option.

If one of the backs were playing like pure crap it’d make this a lot easier.

Ken will not lose his spot.

SK loves Ken more than he loves Hiku

 

[francis faafua]

Surely Lisone comes in this week. We've almost run out of front-rowers through injuries and suspension.

fk no

 

[Jack Bourke]

Just hope this "Charity Day" thing doesn't involve a big presentation before the match like the anzac day game.

Yeah every time there was an agenda we'd shit the bed! Anzac, old fellas day etc. Keep the focus on the steeden and let the reserves and suited folk sort out the rest.

 

[Jack Bourke]

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Bro. Vuna and Chicken Satay are knockin well before Libone

 

[Run_it_str8]

The captains who are able to sway the refs the most are the ones who have earnt the respect of them most.
Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is still young. Over time he may earn that respect from certain refs. Probably not though. Not many people do.

Another way to sway refs is to beat the shit out of the opposition with complete domination in all areas.

Demoralise the opposition and make the referees redundant.

Back to Warriors reality though....perhaps some development around rules and negotiating with refs would help.

 

[Danpatmac]

1. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
2. Fusitua
3. Beale
4. Kata
5. Hiku
6. Green
7. Johnson
8. Gavet
9. Luke
10. Paasi
11. Papali'i
12. Mannering
13. Blair
14. Tevaga
15. Satae
16. Sao
17. Gelling
18. Vuna

 

[Miket12]

1. Capt. Shrek
2. The Flying Fusitua
3. Beale
4. Kan'ta pass
5. Hiku
6. Blake
7. Shaun Johnson
8. Gavet
9. Lucky
10. Paasi
11. Papali'i
12. Ex. Capt. Mannering
13. Not the Kiwis Capt. Blair
14. Jazz "let's pray for a dry track" Tevaga
15. Beef Satae
16. Sweet and Sao Sauce
17. Vuna

 

[matiunz]

Another way to sway refs is to beat the shit out of the opposition with complete domination in all areas.

Demoralise the opposition and make the referees redundant.

Back to Warriors reality though....perhaps some development around rules and negotiating with refs would help.

I thought Roger was getting pretty good at getting in the refs ear of late, there was one stage early on in the first half when the Broncs got a leg up penalty and you can hear roger say “are u going to penalise them for that too?”. Also you could hear around the Satae incident “why is he getting binned for being punched?” Refs reply was “because he started it” but the point is Roger is arguing all he can