General Pick Your Team 2016 Rnd 13 - Broncos vs Warriors

[usiz.king]

Hurrell has shat on the Warriors so fuck him, let him rot in reserve grade till he fucks off

So how is he going 2 fuck off when no other coach is going 2 pay so much money as the warriors did for a player in reserve grade.

If they want2 get ride of him then let him prove in 1st grade he is worth paying that much 4. Otherwise thats half a million tied up in a player stuck in reserves

 

[Nahz]

start a fresh(scuse the pun)
may as well kill the old cliche" their a big powerful side" myth that oppostion give towards us and give them just that
seems no matter what side we put on the paddock defense is suspect,so all out attack & hopefully a new found chemistry of mongrel in all facets of play
defensively probably not the most logical selection but a side id love to watch
was very tempted to chuck #18 on the bench as mazzive imbact but i'll go with this side for now

1.Wells
2.Maumalo
3.Fusitua
4.Hurell
5.Vatuvel
6.Lolohea
7.Johnson(captain)
8.Matulino
9.Tevaga
10.Lane
11.Mannering
12.Thompson
13.Lisone
14.Kata
15.Sipley/Tuli
16.Gavet/Vete
17.Lauititi
18.Tofiga

 

[facefacts]

1. Fusitua
2. Lolohea
3. Ayshford
4. Kata
5. Wright
6. Robson
7. Shaun Johnson
8. Vete
9. Jazz
10.Lisone
11.Thompson
12.Hoffman
13.Mannering

14.Lillyman
15.Maumalo...begrudgingly as back cover, but throw him in the middle where he belongs until then.
16.Lane
17.Vatuvei

Luke can fuck off.
Matulino can fuck off.
TL can fuck off
Gavet can fuck off
Palavi can fuck off.

Allwood is fairly competent defensively, but with the ball in hand he plays like a 65 kg weakling so...fuck off.

 

[mt.wellington]

Drop Shaun Johnson. One of the few players who backs Cappy as coach. Hahaha Cappy is fucked in the head and scrambling to save his job.

Just fuck off now please Crappy...

 

[OMG]

I would hardly call Ayshford or Tevaga big names however they were dreadful so I guess it's them...

Seriously, Cappy is a real chance of completely fucking this squad for when a decent coach actually does comes along.

There was plenty worse than those 2, they wouldn't even make top 10 of the worst.
At least with Blake and Jazz there was more good than bad in their games and real effort and you can see the effort is alway there.
Jazz didn't handle the conditions well but played tough, he isn't a hooker but you admire the toughness, he could be our Fensom.

Apart from Blakes drop, it was actually good play in greasy conditions from the Raiders that resulted in the tries down that side, 1 on 1 with Papaali and everyone loses 99% of the team. Definitely their worst games though.
The shit errors including his had a massive impact on the game.

Its going to be very interesting who he drops, IMO Manners and TL contributed more to this loss than any other personnel.

TL is caustic to the team and Manners wouldn't start at 13 at any team in the NRL, shit even Bhana's offence is looking sharper these days, he is a great tackler but a shit defender.
Maybe he is one of the big names, probably justified on that game.

We are in need of quality Senior Props, Mutts started well but he ain't what people think he is, I've been saying for years he is one of the best fringe forwards in the game and is wasted at Prop, we need more of a leader there.

Lillyman is one of the least feared forwards to ever play the game, there really is very little upside to him, a complete illusion that seems to be as much the problem as any forward we have.

I can't believe they would drop Thompson again, despite an error or 3 the guy always shows up and competes with aggression.

 

[Magic Johnson]

1. Fusitua
2. Wells
3. Ayshford
4. Kata
5. Vatuvei
6. Lolohea
7. Johnson
8. Vete
9. Tevanga
10. Sipley
11. Mannering
12. Matulino
13. Thompson

14. Luke
15. Lisone
16. Sao
17. Poching/lauitiiti

 

[Mr Brownstone]

There was plenty worse than those 2, they wouldn't even make top 10 of the worst.
At least with Blake and Jazz there was more good than bad in their games and real effort and you can see the effort is alway there.
Jazz didn't handle the conditions well but played tough, he isn't a hooker but you admire the toughness, he could be our Fensom.

Apart from Blakes drop, it was actually good play in greasy conditions from the Raiders that resulted in the tries down that side, 1 on 1 with Papaali and everyone loses 99% of the team. Definitely their worst games though.
The shit errors including his had a massive impact on the game.

Its going to be very interesting who he drops, IMO Manners and TL contributed more to this loss than any other personnel.

TL is caustic to the team and Manners wouldn't start at 13 at any team in the NRL, shit even Bhana's offence is looking sharper these days, he is a great tackler but a shit defender.
Maybe he is one of the big names, probably justified on that game.

We are in need of quality Senior Props, Mutts started well but he ain't what people think he is, I've been saying for years he is one of the best fringe forwards in the game and is wasted at Prop, we need more of a leader there.

Lillyman is one of the least feared forwards to ever play the game, there really is very little upside to him, a complete illusion that seems to be as much the problem as any forward we have.

I can't believe they would drop Thompson again, despite an error or 3 the guy always shows up and competes with aggression.

Nah I'm sorry but Blake was fucking dreadful last night (I'm admitting he has generally been solid this year tho). Also the captain had a big part in letting a couple of those early tries in.

 

[Jordan G]

Dropping Shaun Johnson IMO would be purely an attempt to make a statement without thinking about what that statement actually is.

Shaun Johnson isn't playing well, but he's not lacking for effort. When the opposition make a break he's guaranteed to be one of the guys chasing the hardest. He's surrounded by players who don't even have the confidence in themselves to kick the ball or make a play themselves. Defenses know Shaun Johnson is the only real threat outside of our "structures" and react accordingly.

EDIT: having listneed to the Morgan interview, there's really nothing there that indicates he'll be dropped. Veitchy asked directly about Shaun Johnson and Morgan just said "nobody is safe" aside from Manerring and Hoffman who were named as guys who consistently put in effort.

 

[Apus]

I don't think Shaun Johnson will be dropped. Surely no one at the club is that stupid. He's not playing great but he's not the problem. If he gets axed it means that Cappy is just completely out of ideas and should walk.

Players need to be dropped, yes, but only players for which we have a better (or at the very least capable) option. So guys like Matulino, Mannering, Ayshford, Luke and Tevaga are right in the firing line I would think.

 

[MXRecord]

Sounds like Matulino will be dropped to reserve grade. Good riddance imho.

 

[Lets Gone]

Shaun Johnson at 7, Lolohea at 6... its a good start! plzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[pantera nhl]

So Shaun Johnson gets a pass no matter what.
Hes just as bad if hes injured he should rest
But there doctors will say hes fine
Just like most on here

 

[OMG]

Nah I'm sorry but Blake was fucking dreadful last night (I'm admitting he has generally been solid this year tho). Also the captain had a big part in letting a couple of those early tries in.

Yea, I don't disagree but there was far worse who provided didly squat, at least there was a bit of something from Blake.
Many many others actual impact in many areas was minimal to zero.
Manners was dreadful but it finally highlighted that he isn't a defensive genius, statistically he was solid but the stats don't show the times he's dawdling in the line and not chasing out from DH.
I concur with the Hoffman comments too but reckon TL isn't much help in that regard.
I'm pretty sure of the way to remedy to our problems, but that remedy seems to be well out of reach of the Clubs grasp.

 

[Jordan G]

So Shaun Johnson gets a pass no matter what.
Hes just as bad if hes injured he should rest
But there doctors will say hes fine
Just like most on here

The immediate issue is effort. Shaun Johnson's problem isn't effort it's execution.

Nobody is giving him a free pass, but he's not the biggest and most pressing issue IMO.

 

[Magic Johnson]

I just like to see Shaun Johnson(and Tui) play behind a pack that gets some sort of dominance for once this season, I can't even remember the last quick play the ball we got, that's on our wingers and matulino, lillyman Hoffman.
Gubb, Gavet, palavi are not the answer Vete should have been there all year as he's about the only physical prop we have and Sipley should get more than one game to show what he's got as you could tell from his 20mins that he has some go forward about him.

 

[jsmooove]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/article.cfm?c_id=79&objectid=11642955

so matulino and ayshford pay the price

 

[pantera nhl]

So players who offer effort but lack execution are exempt. Because there are bigger problems.

So what is the most pressing issue?

 

[Beastmode]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/article.cfm?c_id=79&objectid=11642955

so matulino and ayshford pay the price

Drop Ashford and bring back the Hurricane!!!!!

 

[6 Again]

Drop Ashford and bring back the Hurricane!!!!!

I heard Vietchy say Hurrell will never play for the Warriors ever again. Morgan must have confirmed that to him off air.

 

[Matulino's Left Shoulder]

Get rid of Mr Seniority Leuluai before Princess is dropped