Mr Frank White

Warriors 1st Grader
May 19, 2012
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That’s not entitlement at all?

To feel hard done by because Sean fucking O’Sullivan was picked ahead of you is completely warranted.

What has Sean O'Sullivan done is this league to give him right of passage?

If I’m Turner, that’s a kick in the teeth, given the player that we know Sean O'Sullivan is.
Sean O'Sullivan is doing exactly what the coaches want from him at his position no doubt.
Coaches needed a controlling half for both Kodi and Chanel Harris-Tavita.
He fills that short term and maybe now Walsh fills the same role.

Turner is probably viewed as our other running halves, meaning he's 3rd inline.
Chanel Harris-Tavita is heir apparent..

Would you have Turner as the #1 running half at the moment? Him and Walsh in the halves??
 
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Swanny

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Jun 18, 2017
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yes I realise Titans 2021 list of 30 will be different but I still think Turner to Broncos.
WARRIORS LOSE RISING PLAYMAKER TO NRL RIVAL

Paul Turner will leave the Warriors at the end of the season to continue his NRL career with the Titans.

Currently sidelined until the 2022 season with a shoulder injury, the off-contract Turner will leave the Warriors to take up a new deal in a bid to chase more game time in the NRL.

“It’s unfortunate to lose Pauly as he’s been with us since 2018 and made his NRL debut with the club last year,” Warriors recruitment manager Peter O’Sullivan said.

“His shoulder reconstruction has obviously ended his season and now it has ended his time with us.

“We made him a good offer which outweighed his new club’s deal but he and his support network believe his chances of playing NRL are greater elsewhere.

“While we are disappointed we thank Pauly for his contribution and wish him all the best for his future.”

Since making his debut last season in Round 15 against the Bulldogs, Turner has made three NRL appearances.

The Courier Mail’s Peter Badel revealed the Titans have signed Turner on a two-year deal until the end of 2023.
 
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Boats n Hoes

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May 14, 2012
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Funny reading a thread when someone goes. Even without knowing his motives its already set in stone for some that he's obviously entitled. Now that may be the case......or it might just be a case of he saw the writing on the wall......Kodi, Chanel Harris-Tavita, now Walsh.......4th possibly 5th cab of the rack......why wouldnt u look elsewhere.......nothing sinister by either player or club imo......thats life.

Good luck to him........hope he doesnt fly off the radar ala Hingano, Lolohea, Tuimivave.
 

Vancent

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Sep 10, 2012
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The Titans are a good option.

Every player that has left for the Titans has improved since Paasi went over there. Lisone is going well, Herbert is going well.

Titans means lots of chances to play. If Turner is good enough he will stand out even in a middling team...or more so...big fish little pond.

Hurrell is the only clown that was worse there than here, but he was a clown so there is no need to include him in a Ex Warriors Titans conversation.

Turner is at an age where he cannot afford to go to an elite club and never see NRL daylight ever again.
Not sure if I agree that they’ve improved or they just look better in a lesser Team - and don’t care deeply enough to go to the stats.

Either way I’d have liked to play him at 14 and spelled Egan for 20-30mins a game - for nothing other than attack and momentum - before he left.
 

Wellington Warrior

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May 15, 2012
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Seemed like he was going to be Perham 2.0 with no particular position.
Justin Morgan pre season had said that they thought that centre might be his best position...
Would like to have seen him get more of a crack after his debut last season, he could have been a nice 14. but I’m guessing he sees himself as a playmaker rather than any type of utility so good luck to him!

im curious what happens to him now that he is out for the season and signed elsewhere for next season.. does he stay with the team this year or does the club say... here is your ticket back to NZ, good luck with the rehab... see ya?
 

Cces

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Aug 12, 2013
540
Christchurch
To feel hard done by because Sean fucking O’Sullivan was picked ahead of you is completely warranted.

What has Sean O'Sullivan done is this league to give him right of passage?
It's never been Sean O'Sullivan vs PT in the coaches eyes as they play completely different roles in a team. One is a specialist Halfback who spent a year as an understudy to one of the greatest in Cooper Cronk & had a 3W-3L record as a starting Halfback in the NRL prior to 2021 & is now 5-5. The other is a dynamic runner who isn't even the dominant halve when playing reserve grade
 

Penpal

1st Grade Fringe
Mar 22, 2014
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At the end of the day he’s a better overall player than Sean O'Sullivan.

And his kicking game is arguably better than what Sean O'Sullivan has shown lately tbf. I don’t know where this myth came from that Sean O'Sullivan can kick.

“Organiser” has become the latest buzz word on this forum. The fact is that Sean O'Sullivan will never have the athleticism to threaten a defensive line. It’s just not even close to NRL standard. That is way more concerning to me then Turner not being able “Organise”. It hurts all other aspects of his game (see Blake Green last year). Sean O'Sullivan has reached his ceiling as a fringe NRL player.

Sean O'Sullivan can’t improve his weaknesses because they are physical limitations. The idea is that Turner can more easily improve on the things he struggles with right now with experience (e.g. “organising” etc).

All this is speculation anyway regarding why he left, but I definately think he couldve been handled better this year.

You don’t just turn down more money from the team you are currently with unless something else is going on.
Not to mention fullback is probably his best position and if there was any desire to play Walsh at 6 next year or in 23 Turner could have been the man. Yip would have been an experienced spine but also an affordable one that would allow you tempt to a marquee 7 game manager type to the club in 2023
 
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Jaffa J

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Feb 22, 2020
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If Paul Turner should feel hard done by because of Sean O'Sullivan then I wonder how he will go in Australia Sean O'Sullivan was hated the minute he signed because people viewed him as a threat to PT's playing time if the boy was as good as people say he would have beat out the limited Sean O'Sullivan I doubt we would have won more games with PT

Good luck future immortal and kiwi representative
 

john nick

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Mar 28, 2020
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If Paul Turner should feel hard done by because of Sean O'Sullivan then I wonder how he will go in Australia Sean O'Sullivan was hated the minute he signed because people viewed him as a threat to PT's playing time if the boy was as good as people say he would have beat out the limited Sean O'Sullivan I doubt we would have won more games with PT

Good luck future immortal and kiwi representative
Exactly mate .Look at Bunty .Not wanted at the club but didnt kick stones .Got his arse into gear & now getting plenty of first grade game time .Can be done
 

Dunedin warrior

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Nov 10, 2014
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He’s obviously doing what he thinks is best for his career. By the sounds of things the club made a generous offer but he liked his chances better at the Titans.

Good luck to him but hard to fault the club on this one. Still has a few things to work on at this point.
 

TheCool

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Jul 18, 2013
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If Paul Turner should feel hard done by because of Sean O'Sullivan then I wonder how he will go in Australia Sean O'Sullivan was hated the minute he signed because people viewed him as a threat to PT's playing time if the boy was as good as people say he would have beat out the limited Sean O'Sullivan I doubt we would have won more games with PT

Good luck future immortal and kiwi representative
Thats my point. He should’ve beaten out Sean O'Sullivan. He a better player right now and in the future. People love an organiser, but ignore how stale our attack was with Sean O'Sullivan running the show, all the tackles he fell off and all his aimless kicks straight to the fullback.

If it was Kodi, Walsh or even Chanel Harris-Tavita that he was upset about being behind, i would agree and say that he needs to lower his expectations. But come onnn, this is sean o’sullivan we’re talking about...

I don’t know how anyone can claim that he’s entitled when he took less money to go elsewhere.
 

Geoff Public

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Thats my point. He should’ve beaten out Sean O'Sullivan. He a better player right now and in the future. People love an organiser, but ignore how stale our attack was with Sean O'Sullivan running the show, all the tackles he fell off and all his aimless kicks straight to the fullback.

If it was Kodi, Walsh or even Chanel Harris-Tavita that he was upset about being behind, i would agree and say that he needs to lower his expectations. But come onnn, this is sean o’sullivan we’re talking about...

I don’t know how anyone can claim that he’s entitled when he took less money to go elsewhere.
Your arguement is flawed, probably caused by your feelings about Sean O'Sullivan.
Turner wanted to be fullback, not a half, so Sean O'Sullivan is not the issue when discussing Turner. Paul is also on record saying he was willing to wait till Roger Tuivasa-Sheck moved on.
He was ready to move as soon as Walsh was signed as a fullback.
He was probably very annoyed that Walsh was brought in when he thought the position was his. And more annoyed when the Broncos wouldn't put him in their top 30.
So he goes to a 3rd team for less cash in the Titans. A better advisor (or watching Greg Alexander ask, what's fair in league) could have produces a different outcome.
I would have liked to see him have a run as a half but I didn't see that in the Warriors plans. That's why they made the big offer for Hughes.
 

john nick

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Mar 28, 2020
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Your arguement is flawed, probably caused by your feelings about Sean O'Sullivan.
Turner wanted to be fullback, not a half, so Sean O'Sullivan is not the issue when discussing Turner. Paul is also on record saying he was willing to wait till Roger Tuivasa-Sheck moved on.
He was ready to move as soon as Walsh was signed as a fullback.
He was probably very annoyed that Walsh was brought in when he thought the position was his. And more annoyed when the Broncos wouldn't put him in their top 30.
So he goes to a 3rd team for less cash in the Titans. A better advisor (or watching Greg Alexander ask, what's fair in league) could have produces a different outcome.
I would have liked to see him have a run as a half but I didn't see that in the Warriors plans. That's why they made the big offer for Hughes.
Correct and possible thinking about taking over from Ash Taylor at Titans
 

TheCool

1st Grade Fringe
Jul 18, 2013
1,982
Your arguement is flawed, probably caused by your feelings about Sean O'Sullivan.
Turner wanted to be fullback, not a half, so Sean O'Sullivan is not the issue when discussing Turner. Paul is also on record saying he was willing to wait till Roger Tuivasa-Sheck moved on.
He was ready to move as soon as Walsh was signed as a fullback.
He was probably very annoyed that Walsh was brought in when he thought the position was his. And more annoyed when the Broncos wouldn't put him in their top 30.
So he goes to a 3rd team for less cash in the Titans. A better advisor (or watching Greg Alexander ask, what's fair in league) could have produces a different outcome.
I would have liked to see him have a run as a half but I didn't see that in the Warriors plans. That's why they made the big offer for Hughes.
Turner hasn’t once said that he only wants to play fullback... your argument loses any credibility right there.
 

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