General Paul Green

Once A Warrior · Aug 12, 2022

Cam Smith "A very sad part of the day" weird thing to say.

Noitall · Aug 12, 2022

I asked to be referred to a psychiatrist last year - I finally saw him three months ago (they're booked out like crazy).

I told him about my symptoms, and expressed to him that I don't think my brain is wired right - my thought process is completely abnormal, and my brain's ability to regulate my emotions is very, very poor.

He responded by saying that it is something that needs to be addressed through therapy, to rewire my brain.

I told him I understand what he was saying, but I've been dealing with this for 22 years, and it hasn't improved; I'm desperate, and am begging to either get some sort of imaging done, or have some medication to assist.

He refused, advising that CBT is the solution.

I told him that I believe in psychology, and I have no doubt that CBT would work - but that after seeing multiple psychologists, counsellors, therapists, etc. over the last 22 years, I have barely improved, and I am desperate to feel better.

He told me to eat better, and exercise more.

I completely understand that diet, and exercise, can keep your mind healthy - I explained to him that my condition allows me to start a good process, but it will not stick when things go wrong, because I cannot cope.

He brushed it off, telling me to keep doing my CBT.

The point of my story is to try to illustrate how simply some poor people can be pushed to make a decision such as that; when the people you pay a small fortune to for help insist that you will be OK after years of intensive therapy - but you're struggling, and in pain, right now -, sometimes, people feel there is no other option.

And it really saddens me.

Eele, I’m truly sorry to hear of your suffering. And I’m so proud of you for speaking up about it.
In my experience, there is no one solution to mental illness and unfortunately we can control it to some extent in some cases, but it never goes away.
For me personally, a combination of Meds, Exercise and NLP have helped immensely, but there are times when I spiral and most importantly, there is no one size fits all.
Just please keep searching for what works best for you and as a number of people have said, reach out at any time

This was on an eels forum I was looking at so the help the initial poster was looking for is in the Aussie system. Makes you wonder just how many people everyday are suffering with these demons and really good that the old harden up attitude has shifted to people willing to lend an ear and not dismiss peoples knowledge that something isn’t right in themselves.

snake77 · Aug 12, 2022

Sad news.

The comments from his family made it seem out of the blue to. I haven't seen any comments that he was dealing with anything specific.

My mind has gone to some of the criticism he was getting when he was the Queensland coach. Some of it was from Queenslanders who have been speaking highly of him now. Then it was he wasn't up to it or didn't understand Origin even though he had played at that level.

I was listening to some talk back over the weekend and the host had to repeat on Foster that he's fine criticizing his coaching but lay off the person. Some people get obsessed with their criticism of the coach and everything that person does is a fault. Just thought its a good reminder that yes these guys accept they have stressful jobs and are well paid but there is still a person behind it.

We don't know much about Green's situation. If he suffered from depression, if not having a coaching gig that kept him busy led to too much down time.

mrblonde · Aug 12, 2022

MXRecord said:
Damn. Awful, awful news. When I heard it today, I was hoping it wasn't the case but it turned out it was.
It's endemic in our society and we need to address it.

I suspected it was when the phrase "there were no suspicious circumstances" was being used.

And, then, of course, the Lifeline numbers, Lowdown, etc etc...

All to avoid using the dreaded word itself. Makes it obvious by other means, though.