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What did people think of Patrick? I thought he was technically very good player. He did well under the high balls he was given, I think he could do with a little more time in the weights room because he got smashed alot, didn't look to break tackles with the ball.

I think he could develop into a regualr first grader.
 
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Yeah, he looked pretty good and he's still only just turned 18, could turn into a great player for us.
 
Yep gotta agree. This kid has the goods.
Having said that I thought Toopi did a good job as his "minder".
 
Good player. Not a winger though, and played well considering. Got caught out with Toopi on a short left hand D resulting in a try but that's about the only blemish. Liked his chasing of Bell. Good desperation even though they still scored. I look forward to him securing a centre berth when Toopi leaves.

Now for Vuna and Rapira.
 
He was not too bad, although I must admit I'm still more impressed by Cooper Vuna - where is he these days?

On the try down his side, I think that was more a result of Clinton Toopi being stood up, he got caught inside, so Patrick had to react and head in field to try and shut it down incase Toopi didn't get him and that was all she wrote.
 
Yeah, Orford found his man outside Toopi and it flowed from there. As senior he could have called everyone out but I don't think the communication was there. So they both wore the result instead.
 
I thought the two big factors in that try were the communication ( as previously mentioned) and toopi let the guy get outside him, defence as i know it should be push people in, rather than out, the opposite of soccer defencive patterns.
 
He may be underdeveloped but he had a better game than byrne.
I don'y care who replaces him, just get rid of byrne.His heart is NOT in the team anymore. Drop him till he gets his head right.
 
I though he had a great game on debut. He didnt have much time to prepare for it, but he looked cool as a cucumber especially under those high balls. It seemed to me the pressure didnt faze him at all. What particularly impressed me was when he got hit by Menzies, he got straight back up to play the ball. That showed character and toughness. I definently wouldnt mind seeing him start again next week.
 
He was pretty good under the high ball. Hes skinny but so is byrne and look at the tigers fullback. Hes young and has alot of potential. He seemed to handle the pressure better than a few of the regulars. Good job patrick. Welcom to the whanau
 
for his 1st up game in the NRL
the kid did exceptionally well
i tip my hat to the youngster

for a kid that was playing in the njc...this year
and hasnt even represented the jks yet

the youngster deserves a big wrap
for his debut performance
did really well to handle the situation
when thrown into the deep end

he has done himself proud
and i doubted this youngster

but he has shown with more gametime
and more time to develop physically
cause he did show mental toughness
beyond his years

will be a quality player
all the best to the lads future
 
Does he have a history of playin in the halves? From what i know of him he is a NZ touch player.

Touch players usually have great fundamentals of passing into holes and having a dart when things open up.

Thats all Benji had under his belt when he went over to Keebra.

Wonder if its an option for him?
 
mattyj said:
Does he have a history of playin in the halves? From what i know of him he is a NZ touch player.

Touch players usually have great fundamentals of passing into holes and having a dart when things open up.

Thats all Benji had under his belt when he went over to Keebra.

Wonder if its an option for him?

He has played stand-off before, but to be honest, he is less than
memorable in that spot.

Cheers
 
watching him come through the junior grades
through Te Atatu, NJC, and Batercard
hes always been an outside back

even at Kelston college
he had quality halves in front of him at the time
robson godfrey
brett clarke.....a player that i rated very high
but unfortunatley didnt seem to kick on
 
i liked him. he couldve looked like a deer in the headlights but he looked confident and did his job or at least tried his hardest. he fits in well i say.
 
he has a big heart and next year could be his year, he will get some gametime this year and can only improve,
 
Iafeta said:
He was not too bad, although I must admit I'm still more impressed by Cooper Vuna - where is he these days?

On the try down his side, I think that was more a result of Clinton Toopi being stood up, he got caught inside, so Patrick had to react and head in field to try and shut it down incase Toopi didn't get him and that was all she wrote.

Partick Ah Van's alot more versitile than Cooper Vuna and can play in the halves as well as cover the wings centres and fullback. Dont get me wrong Cooper Vuna's a fantastic footy player but Ah Van's versitlity gives him the edge. Ive seen alot of these boys play in the junior ranks along with the Bartercard Cup. Cooper Vuna's playing for the Tamaki Leopards in the bartercard comp. The warriors elite squad have alot of hot young talent especially in the back line with Marvin Filipo, Miguel Start, Robinson Godfrey just to name a few. Filipo and Start in my opinion are on the verge of making their debuts at some stage during the season.
 
www.sportal.co.nz

Rookie New Zealand Warriors winger Patrick Ah Van is fast making a name for himself in the NRL.

Ah Van has done enough in 2006 to secure his place in the first-grade side for a number of years ahead, having unexpectedly started the season as a relatively unknown force.

The 18-year-old talent, a product of Kiwis coach Brian McClennan's renowned Bartercard Cup Mt Albert side, has found a strong ally in new Warriors coach Ivan Cleary.

Ah Van says after four years of training with the Warriors' various fringe development sides, it was a dream come true when Cleary plucked him out of obscurity and put him into the first-grade side.


"This is my first year in the first-grade side but I spent about four years training in the development squad," he said.

"I'm pretty happy with my performance but there is always room for improvement and I think I am still developing and I'm capable of being a much better player."

Ah Van attributes his meteoric rise through the ranks to his strong Bartercard season for Mt Albert in 2005 and also to the advice he has gleaned from his more experienced teammates at Mt Smart Stadium.

"All the boys are all older than me and they all try and teach me at least one thing," he said. "It's awesome being around these guys and spending all day with them, they are just like family."

Meanwhile, the man that gave Ah Van his shot at first-grade football, Cleary, has nothing but praise for his young star.

"He's [Ah Van] done everything that's been asked of him and probably a little bit more," said Cleary. "He's got a long way to go obviously, but consistency-wise he's been pretty good."

"He's one of those kids who doesn't seem to get phased by too much and he's got a good head on his shoulders and good football sense."

With star Warriors fullback Brent Webb currently struggling to overcome a hip ailment, Ah Van is seen as a potential replacement for him.

Despite Saturday's disappointing 6-36 loss at the hands of the Penrith Panthers, Ah Van was still sturdy in the unfamiliar fullback role.

However, he realistically admits there is still a lot for him to learn as a No.1, unsurprisingly given he plays most of his football on the wing.

"I still need to learn a bit but at the moment I am feeling pretty confident now," he said of filling in for an injured Webb at the back.

Ah Van's trademark dashing runs from deep inside his own territory, however, are set to remain in full focus for some years to come with the young speedster just signing a new deal with the club.

"I just signed a new deal for three years and I'm happy with that so I just need to gel with the other young guys," he said.

The Warriors take on the Cronulla Sharks at Mt Smart Stadium on Saturday night.
 
It feels good that we are signing all our young talent

To bad we didn't do the same with Motu Tony and Shonytane Hape who are now two good quality international players.
 

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