General NRL Expansion

[snake77]

If the Warriors are based there for 2021 their facilities will get a good test to see if they are NRL ready. The ground is all well and good seating 10,000 and 1,500 standing but you would want a higher capacity than that for an NRL side, especially at the start when its new and likely to pull decent crowds.

They had on NRL 360 Redcliffe said if they joined they would be the richest club. The Broncos are currently the bench mark there with being publicly listed, draw the crowds it would be ideal if it was the competition average.

Wayne Bennett as an option as coach. The way things are going he will be like Mr Burns on the Simpsons who is always around in the future getting wheeled out somehow being kept alive.

 

[bruce]

The NRL are broke and talking of expansion? Heyzeuss spare me.

 

[The Falcon]

If the Warriors are based there for 2021 their facilities will get a good test to see if they are NRL ready. The ground is all well and good seating 10,000 and 1,500 standing but you would want a higher capacity than that for an NRL side, especially at the start when its new and likely to pull decent crowds.

They had on NRL 360 Redcliffe said if they joined they would be the richest club. The Broncos are currently the bench mark there with being publicly listed, draw the crowds it would be ideal if it was the competition average.

Wayne Bennett as an option as coach. The way things are going he will be like Mr Burns on the Simpsons who is always around in the future getting wheeled out somehow being kept alive.

I’m pretty sure they said they would play out of Suncorp Stadium if admitted with the odd game at their spiritual ground.

 

[Mr Dragon]

If New Zealand get a 2nd team does the NZ Warriors become the Auckland Warriors?

 

[mrblonde]

If New Zealand get a 2nd team does the NZ Warriors become the Auckland Warriors?

I certainly hope so!

Although I'm sure Akarana Warriors might be given a fair amount of support.

 

[playdaball]

The NRL are broke and talking of expansion? Heyzeuss spare me.

That’s it....

I’d love to see a Perth team in the comp and a 2nd Brisbane side but finances won’t allow it plus is there enough decent players around for another 2 quality sides?

 

[gREVUS]

the question isnt if there is enough quality players, the question is does the comp want an even comp or are they rewarding some teams over others. Roosters cough cough.

I was thinking about this and a thought was that they should give the bottom 4 teams a larger payment of the cap to lure better players away from top tier teams. I had wondered about top 8 vs bottom 8 but that mid zone is very messy. Then they could tie in extra payments for teams that travel more.
So NZ, Cowboys and Storm.

But the best thing they could do is bring back the b level mens comp. There was never any shortage of players of quality around when that was strong.

However all these penalise teams in Sydney and i really cant see them letting this happen given how un level an advantage they have at the moment.

 

[wizards rage]

the question isnt if there is enough quality players, the question is does the comp want an even comp or are they rewarding some teams over others. Roosters cough cough.

I was thinking about this and a thought was that they should give the bottom 4 teams a larger payment of the cap to lure better players away from top tier teams. I had wondered about top 8 vs bottom 8 but that mid zone is very messy. Then they could tie in extra payments for teams that travel more.
So NZ, Cowboys and Storm.

But the best thing they could do is bring back the b level mens comp. There was never any shortage of players of quality around when that was strong.

However all these penalise teams in Sydney and i really cant see them letting this happen given how un level an advantage they have at the moment.

The competition is really lopsided this year which will be a worry.

- top 8 decided with 3 weeks to go
- 3 teams with a 250+ pd; 2019 there were only 2 in a longer season
- 6 teams with 100+ pd; last year there were only 4
- 6 teams with -100+ pd; last year there were only 5 in a shorter competition.
- record -350 Pd for the Broncos

The blow outs and ‘predictability’ of games this year is a result of talent pooling in a few teams. That leads to less competitive teams, bigger margins and points to a smaller competition over the long term, not expansion.

The stats will be the thing that forces Vlandys to make positive changes.

 

[Mr Dragon]

NRL’s bold plan to split competition into two conferences as part of expansion push

The plans have the backing of one of the game’s most influential figures, with Wayne Bennett throwing his support behind the concept.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Mr Dragon]

New Zealand to get a 2nd team in the NRL is the greatest thing since we got a first team

 

[Worried2Death]

New Zealand to get a 2nd team in the NRL is the greatest thing since we got a first team

I'll still wear my Warriors jumper when you boys come to the Christchurch Crusaders for your annual flogging. I'm confident we'll have a much more succesful rivalry round than the one with Melbourne, we get to play the Warriors. How about we play Melbourne on alternate Anzac Days to even up the win/loss ratio.

 

[Lance155]

NRL’s bold plan to split competition into two conferences as part of expansion push

The plans have the backing of one of the game’s most influential figures, with Wayne Bennett throwing his support behind the concept.

www.smh.com.au

I hate this so much, to miss playing other teams as often forever and also only having the opportunity to play half the comp in a GF is stupid.
I have a friend who follows NFL and when he explained their system I was blown away. They spend half their season playing the same 3 teams twice each year...just because of 'rivalry' (aka money).
Please for the love of god don't do thia

 

[wizards rage]

NRL’s bold plan to split competition into two conferences as part of expansion push

The plans have the backing of one of the game’s most influential figures, with Wayne Bennett throwing his support behind the concept.

www.smh.com.au

Great article. Thanks for sharing.

I believe the plans are already in motion.

There is a push behind the scenes for the Warriors to be more successful. Hence Gould involved; we suddenly sign Addin Fonua-Blake. We pick up Walsh, etc. None of those things would happen in the past... I think at the top level the Warriors are being helped out.

Gould is close to Vlandys. And he’s been sent over to sort out the junior pathways and develop the game in NZ. He’s been sent over to build a platform for a second NZ team.

Then their is our link with Redcliffe and building their platform and helping to position them as NRL ready.

Lots of pre preparation going on and the Warriors are a key player in it all.

 

[matiunz]

I’d be fine with conferences if it meant say playing own conference home and away and cross conference teams once a year(alternating home/away).

Few problems I see is it is further advantaging Sydney teams and will make outside Sydney recruiting even harder- why would you choose to travel when you didn’t have to?

Would total revenue be split to pay travel costs? Otherwise again unfair to the interstate conference having much higher costs.

Kinda need to look at Perth and Adelaide to go along with Bris 2 and NZ 2 and you’re pretty much set for the next 20 odd years.

Rivalries draw more crowds but having them more often dilutes the product, just look at what happened when super rugby went to conferences- pretty much killed it.

Can see the appeal for NRL though, increased Crowd revenue with Bris 2, increased footprint in NZ 2. Chance to sell a ‘Grand final’ to an interstate venue. Large crowd revenue for an all Sydney ‘Grand final’ and a guaranteed traveling fans for the main grand final.

Not convinced it won’t just strengthen Sydney teams and put more of a burden on the others

 

[snake77]

Another NZ team would suite the 6pm Aus / 8pm NZ Friday night time slot. The Warriors can't play that slot every week. Not sure if it is favoured by the Aussie clubs or not but it has been used for the Warriors with the time zone.

It would be great having a local rivalry. Sure it would also mean local competition for identifying talent but we also have competition from the Aussie clubs.

Another club in NZ would provide more reason for the club to get things right.

Can see the appeal for the NRL with another Brisbane club with a game there every week.

 

[tajhay]

Would love to see a second NZ team (and moreso a pacific islands based team). Not sure if this is the right time.

Can you imagine if the new NZ team wins their first premiership before the warriors? We will never hear the end of it.

I wonder how many Warriors fans will jump ship to the new franchise. Not sure how they would be able to recruit anyone from aus/eng for a chch based team tbh.

 

[playdaball]

I can’t see another NZ team succeeding - lack of $,lack of quality players, lack of crowds

 

[snake77]

I can’t see another NZ team succeeding - lack of $,lack of quality players, lack of crowds

But hopefully 2 points for the Warriors and an improved for and against. Hey this is a Warrors forum and I am and will always be a Warriors fan.

 

[Mr Dragon]

We will also be going back to three teams at every club like the good old days so we can bring more juniors through the system and all this has Gus Gould's fingerprints on it, so thank him or hate him if you don't like it

 

[Akkerz]

We will also be going back to three teams at every club like the good old days so we can bring more juniors through the system and all this has Gus Gould's fingerprints on it, so thank him or hate him if you don't like it

Gus Gould - I'll be honest I don't trust the guy. What's his end goal in all this because you can be sure he's got one and it won't be whats best for NZ league.