General NRL Expansion

one bye every week means that someone doesnt play the last regular game of the season. A guaranteed 2 points. Whats the bet this comes to haunt a team trying to get into the 8
no doubt it will be the Warriors, needing a win by a certain margin! but we get the bye.
 
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New logo, a little bit simple but that works well for branding.
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Colours still to be announced but rumours are Red/Silver with gold highlight to differentiate from Dragons
 
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Now that we are moving to 17 teams it not going to be a surprise that there will be more talk from various bids as they will seen an opportunity to get to 18 teams with an even amount of teams.

I haven't seen anything from the NRL how long they want to stay at 17 teams before assessing another side. Either financial or player depth.

The Bears want to follow the Dolphins dropping a regional name. I can understand the Dolphins dropping Redcliffe as they can play in locations around Queensland and keep Redcliffe Dolphins as the Q Cup side.

The Bears dropping Central Coast to play at North Sydney Oval, Wagga, Dubbo, Tamworth, Coffs Harbour and Central Coast plus Adelaide and Perth. From what I can recall of North Sydney oval the crowd would be far away from the game being a cricket ground and size wise it would be like the games they take out to the bush.

Think Perth will still be the favourite for the next side.

 
Bring back the Bears! Sadly I’m not sure how feasible or realistic it really is for the Bears to return but in my eyes they were shafted in the first place and as an inaugural team should never have been given the boot in the first place (even if there financials landed them in the shit).

Note: They were my number 1 team before the Wo’s came along as my uncle played for them in the 70s and was head trainer in the 90s
 

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Now that we are moving to 17 teams it not going to be a surprise that there will be more talk from various bids as they will seen an opportunity to get to 18 teams with an even amount of teams.

I haven't seen anything from the NRL how long they want to stay at 17 teams before assessing another side. Either financial or player depth.

The Bears want to follow the Dolphins dropping a regional name. I can understand the Dolphins dropping Redcliffe as they can play in locations around Queensland and keep Redcliffe Dolphins as the Q Cup side.

The Bears dropping Central Coast to play at North Sydney Oval, Wagga, Dubbo, Tamworth, Coffs Harbour and Central Coast plus Adelaide and Perth. From what I can recall of North Sydney oval the crowd would be far away from the game being a cricket ground and size wise it would be like the games they take out to the bush.

Think Perth will still be the favourite for the next side.

There’s talk a move to 18 with the next RV deal 2028 but might be sooner if it’s a ready set bud such as Dolphins were.
Only way I’d see bears back in was if a sydney club as relocated elsewhere or folded. I’d love to see them back and the north is largely neglected but just too many clubs in the sydney area, the cc public hasn’t helped themselves staying away from teams using the area as a base- had they got behind the Warriors the last couple of seasons I’d say we’d still be there and they’d have a better case.
The NRL really need to look at a long term strategy- in the current economic climate the Bears are probably a safer option in terms of relatively established. Better long term options are Perth and NZ2 but both will be a bigger risk and need a bigger lead in time wise to set up- there was talk that NZ2 was part of the plan before Gould had to abandon his NZ project.
The big trend in Australian sports particularly A League AFL and big bash is to have a derby rivalry built in for each team so could be a good sign for NZ 2 particularly with that 6pm Fri time slot no team in Aus wants.
NRL need to look at a 20 team final template with a sydney team moving, CC, NZ2, Perth and Adelaide coming in longer term- A National comp will be good for growth and sponsor/RV exposure
 
I’d go another Queensland team for expansion then Perth and if another team in NZ it would have to be Christchurch.
As much as I would love it to happen I have doubts around the long term financial viability of another NZ team.
The City would have a new purpose built down town stadium and while traditionally a strong league province, it’s playing base is small. It would need a big uptake in junior development in the next 10 years and strong pathways to NRL.
 
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Come on Wellington NRL team.

Upper Hutt Tigers. Don't even need to use an expansion slot, just replace the current Tigers.
I live in Upper Hutt and own Upper Hutt Rams supporters clothing. If Upper Hutt got an NRL franchise and a purpose built stadium all my christmases would have come at once. Upper Hutt is probably more a rugby league community than other parts of Wellington save Wainui.
It would be next level. Plus Upper Hutt has a train line so if we can put a stadium next to the one of the stations then you are really cooking with gas.

The above page are former Upper Hutt Tigers - includes NAS and Kevin Tamati !!!
 

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When the 18th team comes in , we should see more RU signings as the RL depth could be exhausted. We saw this back in the day and I noted that the Storm , via Foxsports, were chasing a NZ 7s player to replace JACarr. Was his surname, Warbrick?

 
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I live in Upper Hutt and own Upper Hutt Rams supporters clothing. If Upper Hutt got an NRL franchise and a purpose built stadium all my christmases would have come at once. Upper Hutt is probably more a rugby league community than other parts of Wellington save Wainui.
It would be next level. Plus Upper Hutt has a train line so if we can put a stadium next to the one of the stations then you are really cooking with gas.

The above page are former Upper Hutt Tigers - includes NAS and Kevin Tamati !!!
Think that rectangular boutique stadium that was mooted for Petone for Phoenix would be a decent option close to both Hutt and Wainui, only problem is it’s a bit tough for the Jville, Porirua side of the city public transport wise

Remember a few of the Upper Hutt and Taka(pre Rams) boys used to moonlight for the Tigers (and vice versa) when I played for Upper Hutt.

Probably off topic but how’d you get your hands on Rams merch?
 
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When the 18th team comes in , we should see more RU signings as the RL depth could be exhausted. We saw this back in the day and I noted that the Storm , via Foxsports, were chasing a NZ 7s player to replace JACarr. Was his surname, Warbrick?

He was a weapon at Tokyo but they hardly used him. There were some games where he didn't feature at all which was strange cos I reckon he was the fastest player in the team and it wasn't like he was making mistakes. They needed to play their fastest team to be any hope of beating Fiji and that didn't happen. Caleb Clarke could've been a point of difference in the final too but he travelled as a non-playing member which was bizarre considering some of the slower players that were included.
 
Think that rectangular boutique stadium that was mooted for Petone for Phoenix would be a decent option close to both Hutt and Wainui, only problem is it’s a bit tough for the Jville, Porirua side of the city public transport wise

Remember a few of the Upper Hutt and Taka(pre Rams) boys used to moonlight for the Tigers (and vice versa) when I played for Upper Hutt.

Probably off topic but how’d you get your hands on Rams merch?
Hazzah an Upper Hutt or former Upper Hutt man.
There was a sports store run by a cat called Trev that sold plenty of Rams sweatshirts and golf shirts but he went out of business because of the Warehouse. A brand new sports dude just started on Main St - I will drop by next time I pass it to see if he has any local rams clothing.

Wearing Rams shirts has made me more popular in Wellington than Warriors gear believe it or not. Plenty of Rams supporters stop me and talk to me.
I have never played for the Rams just know some people from their J8s.

Edit - the new outfit are called Williams Sports. And a quick look at their facebook page says that they carry Rams clothing !!
 
A second NZ side would mainly be exciting for having a local rivalry.

It would help the game in NZ with more opportunities locally. If they have feeder teams playing in the Australian competitions it would help things further.

The main concerns would be the financial side and the being competitive. The Dolphins set the bar high for the initial amount of capital needed. I could see the second side struggling to attract talent, the Warriors have a hard enough time attracting talent. Auckland turns recruits off due to the rain and being colder. Could see the other locations finding it harder again.

Besides the financial side the NRL may not look to deeply into those areas and leave it to the people bidding for the club to deal with that. Then it would be would it increase the NZ broadcast and overall broadcast with the extra game vs another Australian side.

I can see the NRL favouring Perth with the time zone and spreading their geographical footprint wider across their main market.
 

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A second NZ side would mainly be exciting for having a local rivalry.

It would help the game in NZ with more opportunities locally. If they have feeder teams playing in the Australian competitions it would help things further.

The main concerns would be the financial side and the being competitive. The Dolphins set the bar high for the initial amount of capital needed. I could see the second side struggling to attract talent, the Warriors have a hard enough time attracting talent. Auckland turns recruits off due to the rain and being colder. Could see the other locations finding it harder again.

Besides the financial side the NRL may not look to deeply into those areas and leave it to the people bidding for the club to deal with that. Then it would be would it increase the NZ broadcast and overall broadcast with the extra game vs another Australian side.

I can see the NRL favouring Perth with the time zone and spreading their geographical footprint wider across their main market.
A couple of years back I would have said Perth was a no brainer to come back but it has a few things going against it.
Can the city support another professional team? Population of 2 mil already has, Eagles and Dockers in the AFL, Glory in the A league, wildcats in the NBL and Force in super Rugby.
A lot of the chat was that the force pretty much scooped up the old Reds fans- most in WA genuinely don’t know the difference in the codes it’s all ‘rugby’ to them.
Flight time is a pain and expensive, it’s 5ish hour flight to and from sydney it’d be a hard sell to players.
At the moment WA is seen as pretty difficult for sports with their border policies so until things calm down there can’t see them getting in
 

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