General NRL Drugs Thread

They reported on 9 news that WADA had stated they would not challenge the bans as a condition of the players accepting them.

Well thats good - a least that means its over, unless of course by "coming clean" ASADA now have set their eyes on others?
 
Most odd Bukuya didn't get a notice.

It's like a Donnie Brasco movie.
Was reading that he was saved by the fact that he was injured at the time.

They reported on 9 news that WADA had stated they would not challenge the bans as a condition of the players accepting them.
The only reason I believe the Sharks players have had their bans backdated and effectively been given a get out of jail card is that ASADA didnt have shit! After all this time, millions spent investigating the 'darkest day in Australian sport' and dragging peoples names through the mud, ASADA came up with diddly squat. This is just token ban thats more about ASADA saving face and covering their asses IMO.

Feel for the players who no doubt would have been left high and dry by the NRL in terms of support to fight these charges. One man against the the legal might of the crown would ruin all of them. You'd maintain your credibility but it may cost you your house. If you have kids then theyve got you by the balls really.

I dont like this. Something stinks about the whole thing...
 
if they really had nothing then the players would have been told by their lawyers to fight it. Sorry i dont buy into your theory. They took the deal cause it was the best they were ever going to get.

As a guess ASADA may have offered the deal as they just want rid of the whole thing as much as we do. Believe me the press for them has been 10x worse than any press for the Sharks or the players. They have come out of it looking completely inept all because some politician wanted to make a publicity coo by announcing things they were told in their day to day updates from a govt department, derailing the process and creating a Furor when they had only just started to investigate.

Just remember that by taking the deal all those players are now admitted drug cheats and have all given something to ASADA in the way of substantial assistance with their investigation. If they were innocent and there was nothing to answer they would all have nothing to offer, and left it for the courts.

But then again unless ASADA release their investigation results who the hell will ever know....
 
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NRL RESPOND TO ASADA BANS
NRL News Sharks
August 23, 2014

THE NRL today released a statement in regard to the ASADA outcome.

STATEMENT:
The NRL today confirmed that 12 past and current Cronulla Sharks players have been suspended for breaches of the game’s anti-doping rules.

Each player has been suspended for a period of 12 months backdated to November 23, 2013.

CEO Dave Smith said the suspensions would bring an end to a long and difficult investigation for the players, their families and the NRL.

“There is no room for illegal substances in rugby league and the NRL will take whatever action is necessary to protect the integrity of the game,” he said.

“In this case, the evidence supports the fact that players were misled about the nature of the substances administered to them by people at the Club who they should have been able to trust.

“The suspensions recognise the fact that the players were misled, that the investigation has been ongoing for the past 18 months and that players made timely admissions after being provided with evidence earlier this week.

“But, the players, coaches, staff and administrators are on notice that we have a zero tolerance to breaches of the anti-doping policy.

“Every player needs to be aware that they have to take responsibility for every substance they use and if they want to take a risk with prohibited substances there will be serious consequences.”

Mr Smith said the NRL had already put in place a range of measures – led by the Integrity Unit – to detect and deter doping breaches in the future.

Other new measures include requiring:

- Club medical, football and coaching staff to be registered and accredited. This means anyone who is regularly involved with players and can influence their welfare is accountable and bound by the NRL’s Rules. The new accreditation process would ensure the NRL never allows Stephen Dank to have further involvement in the game.

- Doctors to report direct to the Club’s Chief Executive Officer and not the head coach. Club doctors must also report regularly and independently to the Club’s board of directors.

- All supplements provided to players must be approved by a Supplements Committee Chaired by the Club Doctor.

Mr Smith said the NRL now has one of the most comprehensive drug testing programs in Australian sport

In addition, the NRL is working more closely with ASADA on intelligence gathering processes and will increase its investment in the investigatory functions of the Integrity Unit.

“We are confident that with these new measures we will never again see a repeat of what occurred at the Cronulla Club in 2011,” Mr Smith said.

https://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/nrl-respond-asada-bans/
 
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BENNETT: ‘FLANAGAN IS TO BLAME’
NRL News
August 22, 2014

SEVEN-TIME premiership-winning coach Wayne Bennett has launched a scathing attack against Shane Flanagan and his staff labelling them solely to blame for the whole peptides scandal at theSharks.

The scandal has affected the Knights with former Sharks Jeremy Smith and Kade Snowden both electing to take the ASADA backdated 12-month bans on offer which will see them miss the remaining three games of the season.

Speaking to the media on Friday, Bennett says he feels enormous sympathy for the suspended players who have now paid a price for the irresponsible behaviour of their coaches.

“Obviously, there was a series of incidents that happened at Cronulla in 2011 that were not player driven, which were coach driven, coaching staff driven,” Bennett said.

“They (the players) got extremely bad advice and they are paying a price for that now which in many ways is unfair.

“But at the same time, it’s the code that we work under, WADA, ASADA, and the drugs, in their opinion, are certainly performance-enhancing.

“They (the players) had their duty of care breached as far as I’m concerned. I feel great sympathy for them.”

Bennett says he is firmly of the belief that players rightfully put thei complete trust in their coaching staff to steer them in the right direction.

“The people they trust more than anybody else in their lives and in what they do is their coaches and their staff,” Bennett said.

“They were told it wasn’t performance-enhancing. That’s been a constant since this has all happened and their trust has been breached and as a result of that, these men are now paying a price for it.”

And Bennett didn’t mince words when asked who was specifically to blame.

“Yeah, the buck stops within the group that told them this was okay to do this.

“I said when this all broke that clubs do not do drugs in mass. Players do not do that. You’ll have individuals that go off and do it but not teams.

“I said at the time the only way that would happen is if coaches had convinced them or staff had convinced them it was okay and not performance enhancing and that’s the way it has panned out.

“There is no way you can get 15 or 17 guys in any club — you tell them exactly what is in the drug and it is performance enhancing — that they would all agree to be a part of that.

“It just wouldn’t happen in any club in this country in any code.”

https://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/bennett-flanagan-blame/
 
Of all of the articles about the ASADA investigation this one probably sums it up best.

How has Paul Aiton's name been attached with all of the others as having an infraction notice. By the sounds of this he hasn't been interviewed by ASADA and gone through the processes.



Paul Aiton says he has not had contact from ASADA as he helps Leeds win Challenge Cup final


Steve Mascord
Rugby league columnist

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Danny McGuire celebrates after scoring a try that helped Leeds win its first Challenge Cup final in seven attempts.Photo: Getty Images
WEMBLEY:Hooker Paul Aiton says he hasn't heard from ASADA since the Cronulla doping investigation began and is disturbed his name has been repeatedly published as one of 17 players who have received "show cause" notices.
Aiton enjoyed a career highlight on Saturday when he helped Leeds lift their first Challenge Cup in 15 years with a 23-10 win over neighbours Castleford in front of 77,914 fans at Wembley Stadium
But the build-up was marred by reports in Australia he had been offered a discounted suspension if he owned up on Friday – and then that he would be fighting the allegations.
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Paul Aiton in action for the Sharks in 2011.Photo: Getty Images
"I haven't been approached by anyone, I know just as much as anyone else," Aiton said
"It's not real fair on the players – you can just tell how hard they've done it. My heart goes out to them but I haven't been approached.
"It's not real good, seeing your name like that in the paper. Especially when it's every paper and you're hearing from your mates … 'what's going on here?'
"The players and club rallied around me. They were very supportive.
"I just show up next week and keep playing."
Earlier, Leeds coach Brian McDermott told Fairfax he had not seen the need to raise the issue with Aiton before the match, the Rhinos first win in seven Challenge Cup finals.
"A few players asked him a couple of questions but he just waved it off," McDermott said.
"My understanding is this: Paul's never been contacted by the RFL, he's never been contacted by WADA. As we understand, he's not even involved in any investigation.
"If he was under investigation, we'd have known by now. We'll crack on as normal. WADA haven't contacted the club and it's my understanding they've got a duty to do that.
"It wasn't the greatest build-up for Paul but I honestly don't feel he was affected too much by it either."
Winger Ryan Hall was the star with two powerful tries, while five-eighth Danny McGuire booted a field goal despite suffering three cracked ribs late in the match.
The Rhinos led 16-4 at halftime but were left fearing a seventh consecutive Challenge Cup final loss when Oliver Holmes narrowed the margin to six after halftime.
LEEDS 23(Ryan Hall 2, Tom Briscoe, Danny McGuire tries; Kevin Sinfield 3 goals; McGuire field goal) beatCASTLEFORD 10(Darryl Clarke, Oliver Holmes tries; Liam Finn goal) at Wembley Stadium.Referee:Phil Bentham.Crowd:77,914.


Read more:https://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league...-cup-final-20140824-107qlh.html#ixzz3BIQtBzrt
 
been suggested by some that SOO series result this year be voided & that Titans,Cowboys & Sharks lose any points they won while fielding the suspended players.
I'm all for it.
 
bet you no one in NSW goes for that idea
 
Well looks like this is finally over with WADA not going to appeal the suspensions.

There were a lot of things during the last year which have annoyed me about ASADA and I don't think they have handled the investigation to well. So I'm glad to see them getting criticised by WADA; even though that is mainly to do with the time between the report being reviewed by the retired judge and the show cause notices being handed out.

ASADA cheif Ben McDevitt saying they weren't equipped for an investigation this size. Well they started off making it seem like the issue was a lot bigger than just two clubs; how would they have handled that; one of the reasons they got more investigators was because David Smith went over their heads to the government that they weren't resourced and needed more investigators.

WADA rules out appealing Cronulla Sharks sanctions but hits out at ASADA
Date
September 30, 2014 - 10:02PM

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Bans will stand: WADA will not appeal the backdated 12-month bans accepted by Cronulla players, including skipper Paul Gallen. Photo: Getty Images

The World Anti-Doping Agency has confirmed it will not appeal the backdated bans handed to 12 Cronulla players in August, but in a scathing assessment has blamed ASADA time wasting for the leniency of the sanctions, concluding they are "not entirely satisfied with the outcome of this case".

Cronulla and NSW captain Paul Gallen and 11 others in August accepted what amounted to three-month suspensions – mostly served in the off-season – for "unwittingly" being administered performance-enhancing peptides during the Sharks' supplements regime of 2011.

The bans were backdated to begin in November 2013 in a deal offered to the players because of delays in ASADA delivering show-cause notices and will expire in eight weeks.

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In the firing line: ASADA boss Ben McDevitt.

After having its legal team in Montreal review the case, WADA indicated on Tuesday it would reluctantly not appeal the sanctions but singled out Australia's anti-doping watchdog for heavy criticism over a "lack of activity or decision by either ASADA or the Australian government" in the months after its investigation was completed.

In a statement, WADA also took aim at the delay in action being taken after retired Federal Court Judge Garry Downes completed a review of the ASADA probe in April.

"Nothing was done by ASADA to advance the matter following the completion of the ASADA investigation in November 2013 for many months," the statement said. "The Australian government decided, for reasons it considered appropriate, to appoint a retired judge (Downes) to review the ASADA files. It took some months for Downes to complete his task in early April 2014.

"There is no explanation for the continued inaction from ASADA following the receipt of the Downes report in April 2014 until steps were formally taken by ASADA in August 2014."

Most of the players rubbed out missed only three competition matches this season after owning up to anti-doping breaches under the "no significant fault" defence, which allowed what might have been two-year suspensions to be reduced by 50 per cent.

WADA said the backdating was "justified by the delays in the process", which the statement said was not any fault of the players or their representatives.

"WADA is not entirely satisfied with the outcome of this case and the practical period of the 12-month suspensions that will actually be served by the players," the statement said. "However, having fully considered all circumstances, WADA is of the view that an appeal would not advance the fight against doping."

Gallen and Newcastle and New Zealand forward Jeremy Smith were ruled out of Four Nations contention, and North Queensland winger Matthew Wright had to sit out the Cowboys' finals tilt.

Richard Redman, the lawyer who represented many of the 17 players handed show-cause notices on August 20, said WADA's conclusion absolved the players of blame for the interminable length of the NRL drugs-in-sport saga.

"The players have maintained since day dot that they wanted to get on with it and they wanted it over," Redman said. "Now the independent body that monitors this worldwide has reviewed the case and confirmed this cloud over our game is not the players' doing."

ASADA chief executive Ben McDevitt, who replaced the agency's former boss Aurora Andruska in May, said in an interview in August that the watchdog had been ill-equipped for the dual inquiries into Cronulla and AFL team Essendon.

"The reality is I don't think ASADA was ready for an investigation of this magnitude, and it's not just ASADA," McDevitt told the ABC. "I don't think any national anti-doping organisation in the world would have been ready for something of this magnitude, complexity, this enormity which was immediately made public and needed to be conducted under the public eye


Read more: https://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league...t-at-asada-20140930-10o9p1.html#ixzz3EpGVth2M
 
Why would they appeal such a weak punishment? Should have been stood down for the usual two years but they have instead got off lightly...
 
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I think the technical term is a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket. Just a way to get themselves out of a politically motivated fuck up.

However, it was shown it was happening, where to now. For me the greater danger is the gambling, that is no doubt under some rather large carpet.
 
Why would they appeal such a weak punishment? Should have been stood down for the usual two years but they have instead got off lightly..
Weren't the players in danger of WADA not approving the suspensions if they deemed them to lenient?

I thought they got the OK from WADA before they accepted the punishments making this story a non issue between WADA and the players.

The suspensions needed to be approved from WADA so not sure why they would need to appeal something they need to approve; seems like a lot of red tape jumping through hoops to me. To me it's interesting all of the support WADA was giving ASADA this last year and a half now it's why were sitting on this for so long? The show cause notices should have been sent out in late April/May if the ex-judge and read through the reports and decided to proceed.
 
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Weren't the players in danger of WADA not approving the suspensions if they deemed them to lenient?

I thought they got the OK from WADA before they accepted the punishments making this story a non issue between WADA and the players.

The suspensions needed to be approved from WADA so not sure why they would need to appeal something they need to approve; seems like a lot of red tape jumping through hoops to me. To me it's interesting all of the support WADA was giving ASADA this last year and a half now it's why were sitting on this for so long? The show cause notices should have been sent out in late April/May if the ex-judge and read through the reports and decided to proceed.
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WADA SLAMS ASADA OVER SHARKS INVESTIGATION
Sharks
October 1, 2014

THE World Anti-Doping Authority (WADA) has slammed ASADA over its handling of the CronullaSharks supplements investigation, saying that they are “not entirely satified” with the outcome, but would not appeal it.

Sharks skipper Paul Gallen and 11 of his team-mates from the 2011 squad last month accepted 12-month backdated bans, meaning they would miss just three NRL games.

The players will be cleared to return to training on November 23.

WADA STATEMENT:
WADA has decided not to appeal the sanction imposed by ASADA on 12 National Rugby League (NRL) players for breaches of the NRL anti-doping rules.

WADA’s decision is based upon the following facts evidenced by full examination of the case files:

a.The players accepted that they committed breaches of the anti-doping rules.

b. The accepted breaches carry a potential sanction of two years.

c. Consideration of all relevant facts in respect of the breaches shows that the players raised a defence of “no significant fault”. The sanctions were reduced by 50% pursuant to the World Anti-Doping Code rules. This defence is sustainable and acceptable.

d. The 12 month sanctions were deemed to commence on November 2013, such “backdating” being justified by the delays in the process which could not be and were not attributable to any action or lack of action on the part of the players (or their representatives). It is this last aspect of the sanctioning process that required close review.

WADA has determined that full scrutiny of the file revealed that the number of delays were directly the result of the lack of activity or decision by either ASADA or the Australian government. In particular WADA notes that:

i. Nothing was done by ASADA to advance the matter following the completion of the ASADA investigation in November 2013 for many months.

ii. The Australian government decided, for reasons it considered appropriate, to appoint a retired judge (Downes) to review the ASADA files. It took some months for Downes to complete his task in early April 2014.

iii. There is no explanation for the continued inaction from ASADA following the receipt of the Downes report in April 2014 until steps were formally taken by ASADA in August 2014.

WADA is not entirely satisfied with the outcome of this case and the practical period of the 12 month suspensions that will actually be served by the players. However, having fully considered all circumstances, WADA is of the view that an appeal would not advance the fight against doping in any meaningful way.

https://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/wada-slams-asada-sharks-investigation/
 
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No how much of the delay was due to the AFL investigation causing them issues.

November 2013 they sit on things. Bring it some one to review the findings and if they should proceed and they sit on things for another few months.

Gee and I thought I was a champion procrastinator.

A timeline of what happened from November last year until the show cause notices were given out to the Sharks players would be interesting.
 
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Cronulla Sharks sack CEO Steve Noyce as the club overhauls its management structure
DAVID RICCIO
THE DAILY TELEGRAPH
OCTOBER 22, 2014 7:13PM
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Cronulla Sharks have sacked their CEO Steve Noyce.

CRONULLA Sharks chief executive Steve Noyce has been made redundant as part of an overhaul of the club’s management structure.

Noyce was informed on Wednesday that he no longer had a future at the club by Sharks chairman Damian Keogh.

The restructure of the club includes the appointment of a group CEO who will oversee the day to day running of the football club as well as the club’s multi-million dollar on-site development.

The Sharks have already commenced a national search for the group CEO role.

Keogh said the decision wasn’t an easy one to make but claimed it was imperative in regards to the club’s future.

“It’s never easy, but he maintains his integrity as always,” Keogh said.

Respected by his peers, Noyce departs the Sharks after one of their most tumultuous periods in the clubs history, which culminated with the 2014 wooden spoon.

The Sharks have made Marcelo Veloz interim CEO following Noyce’s departure.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...gement-structure/story-fnp0lyn3-1227098979890
 
Since the players got away mostly scott free with peptides, what are the chances that a good portion of those using them before are back on them. Some of those chief suspects seem to be back making their superhuman efforts in metre gaining and general effort. I know its an annoying topic and no-one wants to hear anything more on it but I am still suspicious that its fairly widespread as they can't test it and it gets results.
 
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Since the players got away mostly scott free with peptides, what are the chances that a good portion of those using them before are back on them. Some of those chief suspects seem to be back making their superhuman efforts in metre gaining and general effort. I know its an annoying topic and no-one wants to hear anything more on it but I am still suspicious that its fairly widespread as they can't test it and it gets results.
quick bit of looking and i found this
https://www.spectroscopynow.com/det...abs.html?tzcheck=1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1&&tzcheck=1
but the article is from October last year so the process may not be very widespread out of europe yet. I would think once they start using it they would find more than a few cheats.
 
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Stephen Dank, the man behind Cronulla Shakes peptide scandal of 2014 has been shot in his home in Melbourne.

Police have indicated one of the shots grazed Dank’s forehead.

He was taken to hospital in a stable condition.

The 52-year-old was the central figure in the Cronulla and Essendon ASADA scandals and has been banned for life by both the NRL and AFL.

One other person was in the house at the time of the attack but was unharmed.

The incident is under investigation by Serious Crime Response Team detectives

Source : https://www.sportingnews.com/league...t-in-melbourne-home/8us6fn53z33m1ragbqu6qezwv
 

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