Post Match NRL 2022 - Warriors vs Dragons Post Match Discussion [Round 1, 2022]

[brightman]

All the superlatives of the off-season are meaningless. Yesterday was a reminder that we're still under-prepared to compete consistently for 80 minutes each week.

one less trial generally means match fitness is not up to scratch. I don't agree with Nathan Brown's appointment as Head Coach but 1 game into the season isn't the time to sharpen the knives..

 

[Sup42]

Thing I noticed about Jazz in years past he bounced off the ground after a tackle. Not yesterday. He looked tired early. It's a worrying sign hes getting older

Curran was also blowing hard in the first half but found his second wind.

I dunno why....first game.....or the team often gets overwrought with too much adrenaline and blows out and plays like lunatics.

Expecting a calmer side round two.

 

[bruce]

isn't the time to sharpen the knives..

for what...we don't have any meat to carve anyway

 

[Noitall]

Did you say the Tongan connection? You mean like Ben Murdoch-Masila? heyzeuss spare me brother...get real. This is not MMT and it never will be.

If you’re backing Nathan Brown Bruce, I hope you’re right.

 

[Noitall]

one less trial generally means match fitness is not up to scratch.

Titans didn’t look bad for it though.

 

[Dixpat]

true...but my point was they didn't square it...did they?

Also when the score was close, and Shaun Johnson popped that forward pass that they all missed, including the bunker, I was sure that would lead to a settling in the penalty count...and it happened all right.

If that was your point you didn’t express it very well

 

[Fonzie]

My mate Teets has done a great review vid, posting here in case it’s of interest

 

[brightman]

Titans didn’t look bad for it though.

did they win..

 

[Diesel]

We won’t know for another fortnight if the lack of trial game has affected us, but the Roosters had 8 players not play in a trial & got carved up.

 

[Beastmode]

did they win..

Yes

 

[sballer7]

Dallin Watene-Zelezniak broke his thumb badly in the early stages and played on. May or may not explain his poor game.

 

[gREVUS]

Dallin Watene-Zelezniak broke his thumb badly in the early stages and played on. May or may not explain his poor game.

yea thatll change peoples perceptions

 

[Swanny]

If you've ever run a business and interviewed people for senior roles, you'd know those characters you meet along the way who speak eloquently, say all the right things, and present well, but when you give them the job, they're absolutely useless. Brownie says most of the right things and seems to know exactly what this club needs to achieve consistent success, but he's incapable of actually implementing it. It was the same story at the Knights.

He's a very affable fella. I know that personally as I used to ghostwrite columns for him a decade or so back. However, he's clearly not effective at translating his ideas into reality. That performance yesterday had all the hallmarks of a typical Warriors early-season capitulation: good energy initially that tailspins into confusion, desperation, and exhaustion as the match went on. By the 60th minute mark, I started fast-forwarding through the game as it just felt inevitable that the fold was in process.

Some of Brownie's selections are mystifying. Aitken shouldn't be in the back row. The centres and wingers he selects are devoid of attacking potential. And why he keeps picking Kodi is beyond me. For whatever reason, he's disinterested at the Warriors, and he looks gunshy with the ball. Perhaps being so small in such a brutal sport has caught up with him.

The Warriors of yesterday don't look well-coached. Again. They look like they're trying to implement Brownie's more 'positive' game plan but don't have the skills and experience to pull it off. I get that he's pushing a local junior first approach. It's bearing fruits at Newcastle, a couple of years after his departure. And it may do over time with the Warriors. But the juniors he's blooding just aren't that good. Not yet, at least.

Perhaps the next generation in the Warrior's system are superstars in the making. TheCool would know better than me. But players like Chanel Harris-Tavita, Berry, and Katoa still seem pretty average at this stage of their development.

All the superlatives of the off-season are meaningless. Yesterday was a reminder that we're still under-prepared to compete consistently for 80 minutes each week.

But over multiple coaches (Elliot, McFadden, SK) and multiple fitness trainers we seem to end up in a similar position. Do you believe that it comes down to coaching or a lack of talent?

I like the belief in players like Berry and Vailea. It shows a pathway for talented youngsters in the Warriors system

 

[playdaball]

If Wolf was to come here, would Konnie follow??

 

[Bangbros 2023]

Jazz did not have a great game

Neither did nikorima

 

[Dixpat]

Yes

You must have watched a different game

 

[pompower]

He's a very affable fella. I know that personally as I used to ghostwrite columns for him a decade or so back. However, he's clearly not effective at translating his ideas into reality.

You still got his details? Worst comes to worst you can ask him if he needs a ghostcoach.

 

[PNG Kiwi]

Well I personally have hardened up my expectations from a couple of years ago are down.
I have been a Brown defender as he isn't out there playing, but if he didn't see what we all witnessed, and doesn't react to it by making changes then I may change my views.
It was frustrating watching full time professionals making basic school boy errors.
The Kodi gamble hasn't paid off, he is basically too small and gun shy to consistently put his body on the line and take on the line.

 

[Bangbros 2023]

But over multiple coaches (Elliot, McFadden, SK) and multiple fitness trainers we seem to end up in a similar position. Do you believe that it comes down to coaching or a lack of talent?

I like the belief in players like Berry and Vailea. It shows a pathway for talented youngsters in the Warriors system

I think it's not fair on the young blokes, they are installed I to a system that isn't working and are expected to make things happen! I would rather Berry come in with a team that is settled and know their game.

I know this is unreasonable because the warriors can't put the same team on the field consistently. But there are players that should be so much better at thier stage of thier careers. Kodi Nikorima is just a shit player no matter what way you look at him, for me Ash Taylor needs to partner Shaun Johnson ASAP and get that Shaun Johnson, AT, RW, WE spine running smoothly, Taylor has experience, but Walsh without experience has amazing ability to make things happen.

 

[jonesy101]

Jazz did not have a great game

He had a very quiet game in terms of his usual metres gained. Made a couple of try saving tackles though. It was good to see when a minor scuffle broke out on our defensive line the Dragons players baited him but he turned his back and didn't get involved. Nathan Brown acknowledged this during the press conference.