General NRL 2022 Round 8 - General Discussion

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Hmm yet no mention of old mate playing for the penalty when Shaun Johnson scored a few minutes earlier? Strange that….well not really.
Or the fact lodge was penalized for a even softer one in the first half.
Wighton drops someone on his head, rapana shoulder charges Egan, tapine eye gauges…. But what about lodge head butting poor horsboroughs arm!
Was it last year the raiders lay down like 3 times in the last five minutes to pinch the game against us? didn’t rate a mention in the media the next day though… 🤔
Wouldn’t wanna make sticky angry!
 
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The Tuilagi no try against the Dragons.

I can live with that decision from the bunker, I actually think they made the right call.

When you look at it frame by frame, at first he has both hands on the ball. Then his right hand comes away from the ball. Then his left hand starts to come away, but because part of his left hand is under the ball, it doesn't come away completely and he's still got fingers on the ball as he grounds it. But he was losing control.

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I guess the question you ask, can you say that's downward pressure?

The Cobbo try was a bit different. Cobbo had control of the ball and has both hands on the ball when he grounds it and has fingers on top of the ball.


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Does anyone think that anyone in that Newcastle playing group would play for this guy? Newcastle imo are in for a massive shit storm of a year and I could actually see them falling away massively!

This to me is the perfect reason you don't go splashing the real big cash on players that are just not winning you most of your games. I know there are other factors but I can't help like Newcastle are under this kids spell, and thier future doesn't look good?

David Fafita is the other that springs to mind, but he will definitely be taking a pay cut next season.
 
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Does anyone think that anyone in that Newcastle playing group would play for this guy? Newcastle imo are in for a massive shit storm of a year and I could actually see them falling away massively!

This to me is the perfect reason you don't go splashing the real big cash on players that are just not winning you most of your games. I know there are other factors but I can't help like Newcastle are under this kids spell, and thier future doesn't look good?

David Fafita is the other that springs to mind.



It's not a good look when your captain is lost for words and doesnt really know how to convey a message to the journo.

I also noticed on the kick off for the second half he basically had a look of disbelief on his face and appeared to be 'joking around' (like "what the fuck... did we seriously start both halves the same way") when they were lining up for the drop out.

In that situation you want your captain being absolutely ropable on the players to snap them back into gear, because they obviously came back out of halftime without their mind on the game. At that point he had to reiterate whatever the coach's halftime message was and reset the team.

When Ponga was named captain I thought it was a bad decision and figured it was team politics in order to retain him, but now that he's staying I cant really see how they can take it off him.

It's like "What if we made a Gen Z captain?"

He looks unprepared or ill equipped for the position and knights now have a lack of leadership across the club to help him out. Klemmer, Frizzel and Gagai are basically the senior players there... and they no longer have Pearce, who was probably not perfect, but at least had some credibility as a leader and was in the spine to take pressure off.


 
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It's not a good look when your captain is lost for words and doesnt really know how to convey a message to the journo.

I also noticed on the kick off for the second half he basically had a look of disbelief on his face and appeared to be 'joking around' (like "what the fuck... did we seriously start both halves the same way") when they were lining up for the drop out.

In that situation you want your captain being absolutely ropable on the players to snap them back into gear, because they obviously came back out of halftime without their mind on the game. At that point he had to reiterate whatever the coach's halftime message was and reset the team.

When Ponga was named captain I thought it was a bad decision and figured it was team politics in order to retain him, but now that he's staying I cant really see how they can take it off him.

It's like "What if we made a Gen Z captain?"

He looks unprepared or ill equipped for the position and knights now have a lack of leadership across the club to help him out. Klemmer, Frizzel and Gagai are basically the senior players there... and they no longer have Pearce, who was probably not perfect, but at least had some credibility as a leader and was in the spine to take pressure off.

Ponga doesn't have the right attitude to be captain. I laughed when the Knights made him captain because I knew it was going to go this way. He's a good player, but he's not a leader.

It was one of the worst decisions Adam O'Brien has made and he needs to make the tough call and strip him of the captaincy, but I don't think he has the courage to do so.


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Ponga doesn't have the right attitude to be captain. I laughed when the Knights made him captain because I knew it was going to go this way. He's a good player, but he's not a leader.

It was one of the worst decisions Adam O'Brien has made and he needs to make the tough call and strip him of the captaincy, but I don't think he has the courage to do so.
I think there would've been pressure from the back office to make him captain and not solely on O'Brien.

The club would want to portray him as the main man from a marketting point of view, but it always looked a mistake.

I think he's just had it so easily from the media all the way through that he wasnt ready to be a captain yet.

If a player is often criticised as being lazy or in and out of games, it's not exactly screaming leader... and that has pretty well been the only criticism thrown at Ponga prior to this year.

The strawberry milkshake episode, holding the club to ransom multiple times already, antics from his father and his general carefree persona all should've been red flags to them.

But they've made their bed now and I just dont see how they can take it off him now.... he's still playing the same way he always has and that was the form he was in when they gave him the captaincy


 
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The Tuilagi no try against the Dragons.

I can live with that decision from the bunker, I actually think they made the right call.

When you look at it frame by frame, at first he has both hands on the ball. Then his right hand comes away from the ball. Then his left hand starts to come away, but because part of his left hand is under the ball, it doesn't come away completely and he's still got fingers on the ball as he grounds it. But he was losing control.

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I guess the question you ask, can you say that's downward pressure?

An issue you have is, the ref said try so did the bunker have enough evidence to overturn it? It was very much a 50/50 call, and unfortunately it didn't go Tigers way.

The Cobbo try was a bit different. Cobbo had control of the ball and has both hands on the ball when he grounds it and has fingers on top of the ball.

I'd call that a try. Though he may of been in the process of losing it, there was never any separation so that's a try for mine. No separation, ball touches ground while in contact with the hand, that's a try.


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I'd call that a try. Though he may of been in the process of losing it, there was never any separation so that's a try for mine. No separation, ball touches ground while in contact with the hand, that's a try.
I would absolutely filthy if they took that off us as well.


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At the Ponga extension announcement, no one really looked like they wanted to be there and definitely no one looked happy. This is going to end in tears and most likely, Ponga at the Roosters.


 
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In the round 8 general discussion thread I put this to the Broncos fans-

As a warriors fan I’m interested to know the broncos fans opinion on the sharks?
U guys seemed to have the formula- we got them next week.

One of the replies I got was from big pete who seems pretty onto it.

The other night it appeared that the Sharks really wanted to try and play the Broncos around the edges which traditionally has been a strong suit of the Broncos. Usually it was because the Broncos could sweep, but instead they employed an up and in to shut down Talakai which put Cronulla on the back-foot. It actually took the Broncos nearly the entire half to capitilise on it, but they were able to enjoy some success by targeting Talakai and later on Nicho Hynes.

Cronulla were underdone themselves. It appears Will Kennedy is playing injured and isn't running freely at all. As well as Haas did to cover him, Kennedy should have made far more ground than he did during that period. The decision to inject Graham into the contest also backfired on them as well. Graham is a really handy player when he can play direct and feed good ball to Mulitalo. The other night, he was getting the ball running sideways from Hynes and by the time he'd shape to pass Cobbo had the space covered.

If Wilton was on his game, it would have exposed the Broncos right edge which is vulnerable. Teams are finding a lot of success targeting Riki and either breaking through or creating numbers down the blind but Cronulla tended to go one pass too many.

They remind me a lot of the Broncos in that for all their strengths, they also have plenty of weaknesses so if you can target their back three with incisive kicks or get Egan and Tevaga asking questions around the ruck before getting Aitken etc. charging at their halves. It's just about making them uncomfortable if you can do that they'll wilt.



Generally, once Big Pete has had his say, there's not much the rest of us can add. +1 to his comments, the caveat being you need a fair share of possession otherwise they will tire you quickly and any plans you have are out the window.


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Shades of Dave Taylor's black eye?


 
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So he blew something out and had a towel?


 
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I dont get the whole hate on lodge taking the dive! weve been robbed of soo many close losses through effd up reffing biases since forever. About damn time we stood up and stole a win for once.

Weve been wanting aussie players who have been brought through the aussie system and there you go. Win at all costs attitude. Imagine the shit the ref also would have got if he let that tackle carry on as normal and we lose.

I thought we were mud but that win surprised me. Had a chance to think about it over the last couple days. When was the last time we actually “cheated” to win? 😂 Weve been far too humble.

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So he blew something out and had a towel?



Not the first time for Capewell apparently


 
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