Wtf bro? You're a glutton for punishment, I dont think I could do it, it's not good for you once let alone twice.
Post Match NRL 2021 - Round 9 - Manly vs Warriors Post Match Discussion
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Why on earth would anyone want to torture themselves by watching a replay...?
If you never got a chance to watch the game. Be thankful.
wellyboy
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I struggle to watch games live man. Im usually on the forum just so I can be distracted because I feel like I already know whats coming lol. So I feel more calm watching the replays and I can actually pick up and see stuff which I normally miss because I'm too emotionally vested when it's live.
Gets in the way
Gets in the way of my social life sometimes so I try and not prioritise the warriors because I've been disappointed more often than not. I just do my life and then watch the replay later. Trying anyway but im still a tragic.
So Kodi refuses to give Walsh the ball because sooky la la?
This is up there with the great "Shaun Johnson is playing poorly because TL overcalls him every set" conspiracy.
This is up there with the great "Shaun Johnson is playing poorly because TL overcalls him every set" conspiracy.
My take on this week -
It took a once in a season kind of performance to bet us from Turbo, credit where credit is due.
If Walsh will be starting next week he needs to have more experienced defenders either side of him. Turbo identified him as a weak link and busted through him quickly, he did chase back and made a tackle but the damage was done. He needs a Harris or Ben Murdoch-Masila beside him to direct him and slide and cover him a bit.
Aiken is going to be a big in for us next week, he will be able to keep up with Walsh if he makes a break and should shore up his side of defence a bit too.
Last week and this week showed us up with attitude in defence in the second half when things weren’t going our way. Also a lack of vision/direction to know when to play up and in and when to go to a slide defence.
But let’s be honest how many games do you score 30+ points and lose? So I take our more expansive attack as a big positive. Small improvements over a extended period make for lasting change, we can all see it’s in the boys to make a real go of it this season, would be nice to see a couple wins in a row I do admit though.
It took a once in a season kind of performance to bet us from Turbo, credit where credit is due.
If Walsh will be starting next week he needs to have more experienced defenders either side of him. Turbo identified him as a weak link and busted through him quickly, he did chase back and made a tackle but the damage was done. He needs a Harris or Ben Murdoch-Masila beside him to direct him and slide and cover him a bit.
Aiken is going to be a big in for us next week, he will be able to keep up with Walsh if he makes a break and should shore up his side of defence a bit too.
Last week and this week showed us up with attitude in defence in the second half when things weren’t going our way. Also a lack of vision/direction to know when to play up and in and when to go to a slide defence.
But let’s be honest how many games do you score 30+ points and lose? So I take our more expansive attack as a big positive. Small improvements over a extended period make for lasting change, we can all see it’s in the boys to make a real go of it this season, would be nice to see a couple wins in a row I do admit though.
NRL: New Zealand Warriors coach Nathan Brown rues momentum swings against Sea Eagles, admits confusion over use of gun teenager Reece Walsh
Warriors coach Nathan Brown has lamented his team's inability to withstand momentum shifts within games, in the wake of Sunday's 38-32 defeat to Manly.After holding a promising 20-12 halftime lead, the visitors shipped five tries without reply in the space of 17 brutal minutes, to hand the Sea Eagles a match-winning lead.
The contest swung massively in a crucial 10-minute period after halftime.
The Warriors bombed a great chance to extend their eight-point lead – with an errant Kodi Nikorima pass wasting a three-on-one overlap – but what came next was even more damaging.
The Warriors compounded the error by allowing Manly to cross in the next set, after the Sea Eagles rumbled more than 90 metres up field.
From there the Warriors lost their shape, making errors in possession and poor defensive decisions, which allowed Manly guns Daly Cherry-Evans and Tom Trbojevic the freedom of Brookvale.
"At 20-12 we should have walked over the line," said Brown of the second-half flashpoint.
"The error didn't cost us the game but it's how we struggle when momentum and things don't go our way and momentum goes against us.
"You are going have opportunities in games when you put sides in a situation where the scoreboard suggests they are a fair way away, and you don't take them, that happens and it's how you respond to them that makes you a good team.
"Our response to that wasn't great. And then we never touched the ball for a while again."
There was a similar period last week, when the Cowboys came home strong, and several other matches this year. It's not an issue unique to the Warriors, especially with the increased pace of the NRL this season.
It's partly game management, partly inexperience and partly mentality, but needs to be addressed to retain any hope of September football.
"We have got to do that far, far better and respond more positively with our defence when we come up with [things] like the error when we should have scored," said Brown.
The left-edge defence was targeted ruthlessly by Manly on Sunday, with wing Jason Saab grabbing a hat-trick, though the Warriors were also exposed up the middle, when Trbojevic scored a quick first-half double.
Brown also questioned his own decision-making around the spine, with Reece Walsh brought on in the 53rd minute for Wayde Egan, with Nikorima switching to dummy half.
It was a difficult introduction for Walsh on the left edge, as Manly were rampant down the right flank, though the teenager helped to spark the late comeback, with several dynamic plays and his first NRL try.
"I don't know if I am using Reece properly, he's only been with us for three weeks and obviously Manly had a plan for when he was on the field," said Brown.
"I've probably got to take some responsibility, because we came up against a smart coach with some blokes that can think on their feet [like] Cherry-Evans and Tommy [Trbojevic].
"Sometimes the coach needs to look at how he does things, and it will be something I will have to learn with our personnel.
"I'm not sure I'm using them properly. We've got some good, young talented players there and trying to get your best players on the field is what the coach has got to do but did I do it right? I'm not sure I did."
Brown added that powerful second rower Ben Murdoch-Masila, who was sorely missed, is likely to be back for Sunday's clash with the Eels, while experienced centre Euan Aitken will also be in contention.
Warriors coach's startling admission about Reece Walsh
Brown questioned his own decision-making around the Warriors spine.
Inruin
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I'm actually not a fan of Kodi in the 14 role. For a number of reasons.
It upsets the makeup of our bench. I dont believe we can carry Jazz and Kodi on the bench. we need 3 forwards there - similarly we cant carry Jazz + Chanel Harris-Tavita or Walsh on the bench IMO
I actually think Kodi is better than Chanel Harris-Tavita by quite a margin
If Egan needs a rest then Jazz needs to do it, however I don't believe Egan is the problem - certainly not with our defence getting cut to bits out wide.
Walsh plays 80 minutes - if he is good enough he is old enough
You are right. I hope if Ken does move into the forwards he starts developing a bit of mongrel and aggression as that is what his role would be in the back row. He won't be a tackle bot back rower.
I remember in rugby union when Jerome Kaino started out in the back row he didn't have that aggression and toughness either but he developed it over time. Hopefully Ken could do the same.
There is no way we should be upsetting the make up of our bench to accomodate Chanel Harris-Tavita who offers absolutely zero.
He has had 3 years in first grade and has shown nothing.
Walsh showed more in 2 games than Chanel Harris-Tavita did in his whole career, it is time to stop believing your own delusional hype and admit Chanel Harris-Tavita is average at best and he should not be in the team at the moment
He has had 3 years in first grade and has shown nothing.
Walsh showed more in 2 games than Chanel Harris-Tavita did in his whole career, it is time to stop believing your own delusional hype and admit Chanel Harris-Tavita is average at best and he should not be in the team at the moment
wellyboy
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Stop this bring walsh up slowly, dont risk him early. F*ck it put him in and let him play 80mins. Theres something about him that just makes the team play actual footy. Walsh doesnt hold back. He sees an opportunity he will take it. No backward step, no second guessing with this guy. I think he knows his abilities and hes not afraid to use it.
I would take K.Iro at his worst over Ken anyday.Iro was a superstar and Ken has a long way to go to even be in the same ballpark.Like comparing a ferrari to a humber 80!
Have to wonder if everyone would be shitting on Chanel Harris-Tavita if Walsh wasn't playing in the halves. Walshy is an absolute top tier player in the making. He would make most clubs hate their current halves in comparison
It’s clearly fiction, however funny that all the Kodi haters somehow believe it to be true. Confirmation bias in the extreme.
It's about what's best for the warriors not Chanel Harris-Tavita... Walsh is special... As I've said before only argument is how much we should expose Walsh as he's a kid. Chanel Harris-Tavita great defender - which we need 100%- but where do we fit him in (if at all) for the benefit of the warriors??? Personally I like nikorimas attack and egans smarts... But I get the everyone has a different opinion!!
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