Post Match NRL 2021 - Round 4 - Roosters vs Warriors Post Match Discussion

[BeastMode]

Didn’t hear it myself but this strategy of only committing 2 players to the tackle is just bizarre. No control of the ruck, no control over the speed of the game. What I saw was too many Roosters standing in the tackle and dishing the ball off - net result, our legs go as time compounds the issue.

Yeap, they got the offload or got to the ground quicker and played the ball quicker too.

3 in to slow everything down makes sense, but you now have that trigger happy ref just waiting to call 6Again.....

 

[tajhay]

Funnily enough, I’d actually like Kearney to come back as a defensive coach.

Unfortunately that’s out of the question because the ego tripping owner called him out for being too boring.

And how crazy is it that we threw a long-term chequebook at Fusitua and Maumalo? Madness

Both were resigned to 4 year contract extensions under Kearney. In Fusitua's case, his contract was not even due for nearly 2 years, but they gave him a new 4 year contract extension ontop and with a higher contract value making him one of the highest paid wingers in the game.

If Kearney was still coach we would continue to be paying overs for average local players because thats all we would be able to get.

How was the owner ego tripping? This club has only gone forward since cutting the ties of isaac moses and his puppet.

People have very unrealistic opinions of this team, could see it all of offseason with fans saying 'this could be our year'. Please. We are far from it. Lets start making the top 8 consistently before even thinking we are actual challengers for the title.

Interested to see how they revamp the backline. Wouldnt be upset if we see a totally new 1-7 next year. Roger leaving, and none of the others are 'must haves'.

 

[6Again]

Yeap, they got the offload or got to the ground quicker and played the ball quicker too.

3 in to slow everything down makes sense, but you now have that trigger happy ref just waiting to call 6Again.....

Yeah, up against it with Cummins weren’t we. Calls more 6 agains than any ref in the comp.

We were milking though, Roosters basically perfect

 

[kurgal]

And that stand there and wait approach on defense has to STOP. Especially close to our line. There was no suffocating defense. We gave their backs way way way too much room to move.

This became painfully obvious watching the replay, and hopefully becomes painfully obvious to them when doing their review!

 

[TheCool]

To be fair though this Forum is insanely bipolar when it comes to wins and losses. Sometimes I wonder if it is a different group or people who post depending on the result. I struggle to believe the same person can have such different views in a week

I've been consistent on my stance this season and have avoided praising them. There were some parts to like about the Titans win, but I haven't seen anything this season that tells me we're close to being a top 8 team. Even in the Raiders win, I thought we were pretty bad overall and got extremely lucky i.e. them losing 3 players early, few lucky calls and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck turning in arguably best performance of his career.

 

[TheCool]

Both were resigned to 4 year contract extensions under Kearney. In Fusitua's case, his contract was not even due for nearly 2 years, but they gave him a new 4 year contract extension ontop and with a higher contract value making him one of the highest paid wingers in the game.

If Kearney was still coach we would continue to be paying overs for average local players because thats all we would be able to get.

How was the owner ego tripping? This club has only gone forward since cutting the ties of isaac moses and his puppet.

People have very unrealistic opinions of this team, could see it all of offseason with fans saying 'this could be our year'. Please. We are far from it. Lets start making the top 8 consistently before even thinking we are actual challengers for the title.

Interested to see how they revamp the backline. Wouldnt be upset if we see a totally new 1-7 next year. Roger leaving, and none of the others are 'must haves'.

I'm all for a new 1-7. I personally think Chanel Harris-Tavita is worth persevering with however, he's still on a rookie contract so will be good value for money next year imo.

As hard as it will be i think we need to go a different direction with Nikorima. Good player but I just can't see us being successful with him there. Fusitua and Maumalo need to be gone.

Looking at the off contract list, I'm not sure that theres anyone there that would make a massive difference. Or if there are any realistic early release targets.

I think they are banking on internal development with:
1. Walsh 2. Ratuva 3. Berry 4. Aitken/Pompey 5. Vailea 6. Turner 7. Chanel Harris-Tavita
But realistically we need to make a big signing.

 

[Flaco]

A general question (although it became infuriating during this game): when the ref calls Six again, do the players at least know what it was for? This viewer sure doesn't. And Fox does not put the reason for the call on the screen. Unless the referee says what for, no one is the wiser: not the players, not the coaches, not the fans. Worse, it can lead to conspiracy theories that the ref is doing it for illegitimate reasons.

 

[JaggedJ]

No secret that I'm all for a complete revamp of our 1-7. All depends on who is available, who we can get and which of our juniors develop.

I have no doubt we're aware of these issues at the club. Just a question of how soon we can fix it.

There's some talent off contract but would consider a lot of them either too expensive or unrealistic.

 

[JaggedJ]

A general question (although it became infuriating during this game): when the ref calls Six again, do the players at least know what it was for? This viewer sure doesn't. And Fox does not put the reason for the call on the screen. Unless the referee says what for, no one is the wiser: not the players, not the coaches, not the fans. Worse, it can lead to conspiracy theories that the ref is doing it for illegitimate reasons.

I usually hear the ref call out the player or infringement. It can be hard to pick up sometimes though.

 

[AlexM]

I think 7. Sean O'Sullivan and 6. Chanel Harris-Tavita would work with Kodi at 14.

But yeah the wings need to up there game.
Wish we signed George jennings

 

[Lance155]

A general question (although it became infuriating during this game): when the ref calls Six again, do the players at least know what it was for? This viewer sure doesn't. And Fox does not put the reason for the call on the screen. Unless the referee says what for, no one is the wiser: not the players, not the coaches, not the fans. Worse, it can lead to conspiracy theories that the ref is doing it for illegitimate reasons.

I definitely hear the ref say markers not square or offside after it. I think many llayers wouldn't hear it though and viewers don't hear the ref 100% of the time either.
One thing it does is it forces us to move on quickly and therefore less criticism of the actual call.

 

[6Again]

I guess it's fortunate we're at a stage in the game where contracts can be pretty meaningless.

The messaging out of the club is that we have a talented crop of junior outside backs. Have been hearing this from Brown since he first came in as coach.

When he decides to pull the trigger will be interesting.

 

[Lance155]

I guess it's fortunate we're at a stage in the game where contracts can be pretty meaningless.

The messaging out of the club is that we have a talented crop of junior outside backs. Have been hearing this from Brown since he first came in as coach.

When he decides to pull the trigger will be interesting.

Yea it definitely feels like one will get pushed out and surely it has to be Fusitua. Ken is better than him in almost every way. Is Fusitua even faster these days?

 

[Canadian_WarriorFan]

I guess it's fortunate we're at a stage in the game where contracts can be pretty meaningless.

The messaging out of the club is that we have a talented crop of junior outside backs. Have been hearing this from Brown since he first came in as coach.

When he decides to pull the trigger will be interesting.

Any names in particular?

 

[6Again]

Any names in particular?

Rocco Berry is one that they have high hopes for. POS mentioned in a podcast last year it’s not if but when and Gould singled him out when asked who stood out amongst our Juniors during preseason.

To me all things point to Berry being groomed as a replacement for Hiku at some point.

 

[bangbros18]

Now I’ve heard of ‘showing him the sideline’ - but the TRYLINE Ken!
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Exactly what I was screaming at the tv! Put your fucken shoulder into him, even if it means 10 mins!

 

[bangbros18]

I feel like maumalo has gone away from the late foot movement that gained him so much yardage last few seasons? Him and Fusitua just run straight and try run over 3 defenders. Not sure there are any decent wingers on the market si might have to let these guy run out their contracts?

 

[kurgal]

The Warriors were competitive and had control of the game (at least for a while) - the final score isn't a fair reflection of the entirety of the game.

 

[Inruin]

the final score isn't a fair reflection of the entirety of the game.

I think you are right. Roosters should have probably scored more.

 

[Sup42]

After watching the replay it was really anyones game with 30mins to go. We spent 5mins down on their line, set after set taking hitups off the ruck. That just doesn't get it done against a well drilled quality defensive side like the Roosters. They flipped the switch, went 100m and scored.
That was really the straw that broke the camels back, and we unraveled from there.

Our middles are doing a lot of good work and keeping us in games. Our spine and outside backs are really letting their middles down.

Oh well on to next week, hopefully a more complete performance against Manly.

Brave man having a re look...

But that is the game I saw...none of this bullshit about being crap, we were well in it till the lack of ball caught up with us.

I know people do not like to blame the Reffs....however the six again is entirely subjective, the Roosters look fast because they are being aided by the Ref to get fast ptbs.

The Warriors on the other hand were being slowed in the ptb, hands on the player when they got up to play it....entirely subjective....you are talking a two second decision between Cummins deciding it is two seconds too long....or the Warriors can cop an extra two five seconds.

Total bullshit.

We looked great till we ran out of gas....then we were awful...like any team out of juice...like Canberra last week...no gas no chance.