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jmb_31

1st Grade Fringe
Feb 27, 2021
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But Jennings can actually score trys one on one or beat someone with a step and pace.
How often do they get Ken into one on one's lol, not very often. Give him a straight run at the line against the opposite winger and i'd back him to score. Hopefully with Walsh being a ball player he'll be able to get Ken into more opportunities like that because he is a very good finisher.
 

BeastMode

Warriors 1st Grader
Mar 7, 2015
9,265
He's been playing with a sternum injury all season, there is a strong possibility he is getting needled up to play every game. Much the same as I think it was Mannering in 2018 was?

Sternum injuries can be really niggly, and tend to hang around for quite awhile. Good luck running back into the meat of an NRL defensive line with full confidence.

I didn’t know sternum injuries affected ones ability to think and make good decisions

It might explain the why, but doesnt excuse the fact he’s playing shit and should be dropped
 

Sup42

Warriors 1st Grader
May 7, 2012
23,376
Lets face it.

Ken is not a guy that defends well. Usually Roger helps him on the Try line, inside the red zone.

Ideally you have a senior defensive centre with Ken. His flaws are defendable, can be countered with the right make up around him.

Biggest problem the Warriors have is that they have not been able to field any consistency in their defensive line.

Start there, then give it time to bed in.

This season we have never got to the start line.

Don't be looking at dropping Ken till after Addin Fonua-Blake returns.

What people ignore is that Ken draws in two to three of the best defenders the opposition have, which is what Manu did.

That's why fit props like to run straight after him, because the hardest tackle in a set has been taken care of by Ken....and the reason that happens, is because Ken runs straight.

Running straight and getting hit front on is a deliberate ploy in his case, he is making first base. He is giving someone like Addin Fonua-Blake a nicer set up to their runs.
 

BeastMode

Warriors 1st Grader
Mar 7, 2015
9,265
Lets face it.

Ken is not a guy that defends well. Usually Roger helps him on the Try line, inside the red zone.

Ideally you have a senior defensive centre with Ken. His flaws are defendable, can be countered with the right make up around him.

Biggest problem the Warriors have is that they have not been able to field any consistency in their defensive line.

Start there, then give it time to bed in.

This season we have never got to the start line.

Don't be looking at dropping Ken till after Addin Fonua-Blake returns.

What people ignore is that Ken draws in two to three of the best defenders the opposition have, which is what Manu did.

That's why fit props like to run straight after him, because the hardest tackle in a set has been taken care of by Ken....and the reason that happens, is because Ken runs straight.

Running straight and getting hit front on is a deliberate ploy in his case, he is making first base. He is giving someone like Addin Fonua-Blake a nicer set up to their runs.

serious discussion

how many of our players are students of the game?? I mean real students who are passionate and want to learn and master this sport??

how much time does Brown/coaching staff spend with players reviewing tape, giving advice on where to improve, perform critical analysis and set clear goals and development points?

I don’t mean to bang on about Ken, everyone knows how I feel, but a passionate student of the game should be able to improve over time... small steps but gradual improvements... I get frustrated because it’s the same fundamental mistakes I see happening year after year... maybe it’s not all Ken’s fault, but there is something seriously wrong at this club when it comes to development and improvement, at all levels of the game.... I always point to Ken as a classic example. It’s not fair on Ken, and I apologise for that.
 

Warrior482

1st Grade Fringe
Oct 12, 2012
827
How often do they get Ken into one on one's lol, not very often. Give him a straight run at the line against the opposite winger and i'd back him to score. Hopefully with Walsh being a ball player he'll be able to get Ken into more opportunities like that because he is a very good finisher.

Would love to see more of this. Ken steaming onto an inside ball 10m out (I mean really running a line) would pay off if used properly
 

xWarrior

1st Grade Fringe
Sep 27, 2012
667
Lets face it.

Ken is not a guy that defends well. Usually Roger helps him on the Try line, inside the red zone.

Ideally you have a senior defensive centre with Ken. His flaws are defendable, can be countered with the right make up around him.

Biggest problem the Warriors have is that they have not been able to field any consistency in their defensive line.

Start there, then give it time to bed in.

This season we have never got to the start line.

Don't be looking at dropping Ken till after Addin Fonua-Blake returns.

What people ignore is that Ken draws in two to three of the best defenders the opposition have, which is what Manu did.

That's why fit props like to run straight after him, because the hardest tackle in a set has been taken care of by Ken....and the reason that happens, is because Ken runs straight.

Running straight and getting hit front on is a deliberate ploy in his case, he is making first base. He is giving someone like Addin Fonua-Blake a nicer set up to their runs.
When was the last time he bent the line ? Seems like he gets dragged back most of the time.
 

Warrior482

1st Grade Fringe
Oct 12, 2012
827
Lets face it.

Ken is not a guy that defends well. Usually Roger helps him on the Try line, inside the red zone.

Ideally you have a senior defensive centre with Ken. His flaws are defendable, can be countered with the right make up around him.

Biggest problem the Warriors have is that they have not been able to field any consistency in their defensive line.

Start there, then give it time to bed in.

This season we have never got to the start line.

Don't be looking at dropping Ken till after Addin Fonua-Blake returns.

What people ignore is that Ken draws in two to three of the best defenders the opposition have, which is what Manu did.

That's why fit props like to run straight after him, because the hardest tackle in a set has been taken care of by Ken....and the reason that happens, is because Ken runs straight.

Running straight and getting hit front on is a deliberate ploy in his case, he is making first base. He is giving someone like Addin Fonua-Blake a nicer set up to their runs.

Agree 100%. That is Kens bread and butter. When guys like Pet, Aitken, Fusitua, Addin Fonua-Blake (all good metre men) were rolling up field alongside him our metre game was top notch, and Kenny's tough runs and setup on tackle 2 was devastatingly effective. Right now it's pretty much him and Rog carrying us out of trouble.

I get that he has flaws to his game, but for better or worse we need what he provides right now, which is all of the above.
 

JaggedJ

1st Grade Fringe
Apr 19, 2018
3,133
How often do they get Ken into one on one's lol, not very often. Give him a straight run at the line against the opposite winger and i'd back him to score. Hopefully with Walsh being a ball player he'll be able to get Ken into more opportunities like that because he is a very good finisher.

From ten metres out or less sure. Like every other generic stock standard wing that ever laced up a boot in NSW or QLD Cup.

Further than that, no chance.

No long range threat.

Someone else makes a break, when have you seen him in support?

Opposition makes a break and he's nowhere to be seen.

Covering a kick....lol

A few extra token metres aren't worth what we lose elsewhere. It's just not and never will be. No team has ever won the premiership with a Maumalo style wing and the slowest (or at least bottom 4) backline in the comp.

He's not the only problem, but he is one of many.
 

xWarrior

1st Grade Fringe
Sep 27, 2012
667
From ten metres out or less sure. Like every other generic stock standard wing that ever laced up a boot in NSW or QLD Cup.

Further than that, no chance.

No long range threat.

Someone else makes a break, when have you seen him in support?

Opposition makes a break and he's nowhere to be seen.

Covering a kick....lol

A few extra token metres aren't worth what we lose elsewhere. It's just not and never will be. No team has ever won the premiership with a Maumalo style wing and the slowest (or at least bottom 4) backline in the comp.

He's not the only problem, but he is one of many.
Let's all agree he's not a winger. Even his hit ups are weak these days. Warriors are the only team that play prop wings.
 
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JaggedJ

1st Grade Fringe
Apr 19, 2018
3,133
Who's going to replace him?

We have an exemption rookie not in our top 30 playing currently on the other wing.

Nobody is replacing him this year and our other options are poor at best.

We have enough off contract players to make a significant shift next year though. Whether they do or not remains to be seen.
 

john nick

1st Grade Fringe
Mar 28, 2020
3,448
tauranga
That's a conspiracy theory I've yet to read 😂
Giving Roger Tuivasa-Sheck 2 points on the weekend was an odd one though. He made metres but tackled at 33%, 2 errors, a penalty & his team conceded a 40/20. Probably still the Warriors best but thought there were more worthy candidates from Manly
Yeah I don't think Brandy would have a great deal of influence. Sounds like Adam Reynolds has signed with the Broncos for huge money. I would be very dubious about the results.Going to the Broncos is a big disaster in my opinion
 
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Sup42

Warriors 1st Grader
May 7, 2012
23,376
Pretty excited to see how we go this game. The Eels are truly one of the excellent sides in red hot form.

No nerves from me, we really have no right winning on paper, so no need to stress about it. Might as well get on the ride and enjoy it.

Obviously really hoping we compete. After that everything else is a bonus.

I feel people are missing a lot of the good, by being bogged down in the negatives. We have a choice, it is our choice how we look at that metaphorical glass.

I just park the negatives, so as not to lose sight of the things that are good omens for our future.

And no game, like a top four team, affords you the opportunity to see the good, when your team is in a race against a superior opponent.

All that said. specific reasons to like this game include, Walsh and his minutes. Everything about Walsh is refreshing, even his stuff ups. Ben Murdoch-Masila, best forward we have seen since the arrival of Tohu Harris. Knowing that when Addin Fonua-Blake comes back in, Ben Murdoch-Masila goes up another level.

The twin towers of the Warriors.

They are attacking dynamite.

Speaking of Tohu Harris, I was delighted to see him crash over for a try two weeks ago....I think we have forgotten what an attacking weapon Harris is....and I believe, that he will be a real weapon in future.

Why? what will change with Tohu Harris being forgotten as a tackle bot?

Well we have added the most defensive pieces to a Warriors pack that we have ever fielded.

Harris
Curran
Leeson Ah-Mau
Tevanga
Sironen
Egan

These are naturally defensive players.

Next tier down

Addin Fonua-Blake
Evans
Bunty
Ben Murdoch-Masila

These are also defensive players.

Clearly, POS has put a lot of thought into a defensive middle third that has attacking runners as well.

The Warriors pack is beautifully balanced, it is one of the best, but unfortunately, atm the best all round player, the one most important to the Warriors, is out with a knee injury.

Bring all those elements together, get them in motion around Walsh and the Warriors had every right to believe they could go down town then attack with their forward pack.

Except Walsh came along, now the backline can do stuff too.

If it all comes together this week we will win.

If it is piece meal and we lose, try not to forget what is coming, try to not ignore what we are up against at the moment.

And most of all, excuse the rant, but the miles Kosi and Berry are clocking up, are for our future. With Aitken back, the future is now, things will start to really happen when all these new guys....Aitken, Walsh, Berry, Kosi, realise what they are capable of.
 
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